Toyota Yaris XP150 2020 Dedicated Discussion, Owners / Fans Club Thread

[chinyoti]

Because you are comparing 1.3 ATIV TO 1.5 ATIV

If you compare 1.3 Gli to 1.5 Ativ the difference is almost similar.

City got another bump Because taxes didn't go up on 1.2L variants.

[rizwanhaider16]

the tyres were not spinning at all even after flooring the gas pedal
Any knocking sound from engine?

No nothing, no knocking sound

Did the TRC or ABS light turn on?

did not notice while TRC n VSC was on, however the TRC n VSC was turned off manually after a couple of tries

Did you try driving the car when your friends came out and pushed it a bit?

Ji bhai jaan, kafi dafa

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[rizwanhaider16]

When a vehicle with low or average power is combined with CVT, this usually happens. You may not face this issue with 1.5 CVT. If you drive in hilly areas a lot, manual transmission is much better for under powered vehicles.

No went from Multan via Kalar Kahar Motorway to Kaghan on Thursday, then to Nathia Gali where we faced this underpowering issue the first time, nothing on kalar kahar or mansehra/balakot ascends

Apart from the vehicle, if you try to keep momentum before climb, it may not stall completely. Sometimes climbing in reverse also helps. So driving techniques also play a role in hilly areas.

I have been to northern areas a dozens of times on every kind of budget vehicle from Mehran to Civic, City and now Yaris. It was in momentum, and was in first gear on manual, the power just started declining. There was no power in engine to move the vehicle forward on 'that' ascend. It was fine again once we were in Nathia Gali-Donga Gali road

[asadjohn123]

I think Yaris' engine design and technology are quite different from previous GLI. I took my Yaris to Namli Waterfall last year with a total of three passengers on board. When I left Islamabad for Murree and took the steep ascents, I initially felt the car struggling to get power, but then I brushed this thought away believing it to be a mere false understanding. Can't really give my verdict on my 1.3 manual Yaris, if it really lacks power or not. But there were certainly some steeps where I found the car struggling to climb in 1st gear when it lost its momentum or had to be very slow because of heavy traffic. Moreover, there were also some steeps where I felt that Yaris was performing better than my previous GLI. Thus, I am till confused about its power on hills. Haven't been to hilly areas with a fully loaded Yaris yet! Utterly confusing!

[tmalik]

Been to PC Bhurban from Islamabad airport last year on 1.3 Gli yaris.

There were 3 adults (Including Driver) and 2 Full size loaded luggage bags in the car. The drive did not feel sluggish at all. I think its due to the fact that roads were clear with minimal traffic and the driver know when and where the bends and turns will come and hence know how much power to put pump from the engine before the bend.

also went to Daman-e-koh and monal with 3 adults and one full size luggage bad and still no issue in climbing.

In the end its the driver skill ! I have seen 1.3 manual old school nissan sunny (with 4 adults on board and no luggage) also stall on slopes simply because it lost momentum midway.

however yaris 1.3 engine is different in drive and feel compared to previous 1.3 Corolla engine. i have driven both and the 1.3 corolla Gli engine is more responsive where as 1.3 yaris seems to take longer to respond. just my experience.

[nasty_faizan]

I think the difference may be due to old school 4 speed automatic in gli versus cvt in yaris

[asadjohn123]

Tmalik is right. The huge difference in power is because of the engine and acceleration response between the two models.

[ameer.asef]

When I opted to buy 1.3 Yaris I was expecting it to be more responsive than GLi because of compact size and being 140kg lighter
I never realized it's a different engine, it's designed to give better mileage not a power horse

[mgalaxy3]

Maybe put in a complaint to the company.

I think there was some other person too who faced loss of power in their Yaris on steep climb.

Try searching the thread.

[dms664]

Even 2nzfe was not a power horse but never hesitated in ascends. I think something is wrong with software rather than hardware in the yaris. With lighter weight than corolla yaris should pass the hills test in flying colours.

If you attribute it to cvt than i have taken vitz cvt 1.0 to thandyani top with full load and those who had been there knows thats its most challenging ascend in all galyat. I just had to shift to S gear in ascend and B in descent and it climbed. Though at certain places i thot it will stall but it got slow but never stalled. Ma sha Allah

So how yaris cant climb, that I cant figure out.

[ameer.asef]

I think turning off the ECO mode on hills will help
This can be done by turning on S mode in 1.5
there is a way to do it 1.3 Ativ cvt as well
seems like it's the same function in 1.5 Ativ they have provided a dedicated button for this but I am not sure

[rizwanhaider16]

Wow never knew this option. Thanks a lot

[redacted]

That is very interesting that something like this is not well known/secret. It should be in the car manual for the 1.3 version, no?

[chinyoti]

Yei bat hai, Yaris won't stall but won't give similar out put as a AT or a Manual.

S / B gears replicate 1 And 2 in AT but it's not same.

I remember I took a Vitz to murree, I made a wrong turn towards Firhills (wrong way, the climb was actually a decent, it kept crawling but managed to go through.

Taken it to Monal several times. Goes smoothly while people claimed Corolla often needs to re run before taking Monal climbs / Turns

[dms664]

S / B gears replicate 1 And 2 in AT but it's not same.

sir S and B gears are in CVT not AT. L and D3 are there in AT in case it is 4 speed AT.
Vitz is CVT not AT. Thats why comparing it here. I know how AT feels but a low power ie 1000 cc vitz with CVT from same Toyota is doing better than yaris which is fitted with a bigger engine that raises a concern hinting there is something wrong.

[dms664]

it kept crawling but managed to go through.

exactly. one feels like it will stall but it keeps crawling. same experience!

Corolla often needs to re run before taking Monal climbs / Turns

incidentally I have a corolla manual as well and people claim it right. That thing feels powerful than vitz if it is having a momentum but if the momentum breaks on steep ascend then it is difficult. In Vitz it just keep crawling.

[chinyoti]

I mis phrased

[ameer.asef]

yes you're right..
if you turn eco off you'll feel aggressive engine response

[crema]

It is just a Myth that eco indicator toggles the power and economic power delivery band of the engine.

Rather it only turns on a light showing that the engine rpms are at most optimum w.r.t the speed of vehicle.

This is the extract of over 2.5 decades of Toyota driving/ownership experience on various product segments.

[a.wahabmalik84]

Cruise can be installed in Yaris 1.5 Ativ X CVT just for 5 to 6 thousands