V6/V8 Engine Vehicle in Pakistan Discussion

[memad]

Newest Facelift has not came here but and has 5.7 L V8 engine with 8 speed Auto Trassmission

The latest facelift comes with both type of V8 engines as predecessor. With 1UR-FE the tranny is same old AB60F

[ali.7861]

The latest facelift comes with both type of V8 engines as predecessor. With 1UR-FE the tranny is same old AB60F

Oh okey thanks for the information Bro

[ali.7861]

Two engine options are available in the Land Cruiser Prado starting with the 160HP 2.7-litre unit which comes with four-speed automatic transmission.
The alternative engine is an 4.0-litre VVT-i petrol V6 which has 271 HP and links up with a five-speed automatic gearbox.

[ali.7861]

The Old Jeep Cherokee Comes with v6 6 inline 4.0l Engine

[ali.7861]

Ford Mustang Come with 4.0*L SOHC V6 and 4.6 L SOCH V8 Engine

[arzaam.bhatti]

whats the point of this discussion, just merely listing engine types that can easily be found elsewhere or actual discussion about architecture of these v6/v8 engines

and anyway all of the above are pretty dismal by modern standards, future is already here which is direct fuel injection and efficient twin scroll turbos for petrol ones. similarly the above diesel v6/v8 lag in power output compared to their european diesel counterparts and then compounded by the fact that people get heart attacks in pakistan when they see prices for brand new injectors of common rail diesels or miserably fail when comes to calibrating diesel injection pumps.

any modern turbocharged direct injected 4 cylinder can embarass the v sixes and similarly, direct injected bi turbo or twin scroll turbo v6 embarass v8s while getting better fuel eco and better responsiveness at same time.

however these underwhelming dinosaurs will remain here as people dont want more heart attacks when it comes to bills for brand new parts of direct injection units etc if they ever go wrong.

for example toyota tundra 5.7 v8 seemingly a huge beast in pakistan(know as a avg family pickup elsewhere in the world) only has 381 hp from 5.7 and though it has better torque ratio a ford eco boost v6 has bigger towing capacity than the tundra.

[ali.7861]

New Mustang Come With 2.3 L EcoBoost 310 hp four-cylinder
(inline), 3.7 L 300 hp V6, or 5.0 L 435 hp V8,

[saboor73]

BTW the most important info of engine are missing V angle of v engine

[ali.7861]

whats the point of this discussion, just merely listing engine types that can easily be found elsewhere or actual discussion about architecture of these v6/v8 engines

and anyway all of the above are pretty dismal by modern standards, future is already here which is direct fuel injection and efficient twin scroll turbos for petrol ones. similarly the above diesel v6/v8 lag in power output compared to their european diesel counterparts and then compounded by the fact that people get heart attacks in pakistan when they see prices for brand new injectors of common rail diesels or miserably fail when comes to calibrating diesel injection pumps.

any modern turbocharged direct injected 4 cylinder can embarass the v sixes and similarly, direct injected bi turbo or twin scroll turbo v6 embarass v8s while getting better fuel eco and better responsiveness at same time.

however these underwhelming dinosaurs will remain here as people dont want more heart attacks when it comes to bills for brand new parts of direct injection units etc if they ever go wrong.

for example toyota tundra 5.7 v8 seemingly a huge beast in pakistan(know as a avg family pickup elsewhere in the world) only has 381 hp from 5.7 and though it has better torque ratio a ford eco boost v6 has bigger towing capacity than the tundra.

Inline V6 jeep can beat Tundra in Torque Power !!

[ali.7861]

And G series merc is More Torque then a GTR !!

[ali.7861]

whats the point of this discussion, just merely listing engine types that can easily be found elsewhere or actual discussion about architecture of these v6/v8 engines

and anyway all of the above are pretty dismal by modern standards, future is already here which is direct fuel injection and efficient twin scroll turbos for petrol ones. similarly the above diesel v6/v8 lag in power output compared to their european diesel counterparts and then compounded by the fact that people get heart attacks in pakistan when they see prices for brand new injectors of common rail diesels or miserably fail when comes to calibrating diesel injection pumps.

any modern turbocharged direct injected 4 cylinder can embarass the v sixes and similarly, direct injected bi turbo or twin scroll turbo v6 embarass v8s while getting better fuel eco and better responsiveness at same time.

however these underwhelming dinosaurs will remain here as people dont want more heart attacks when it comes to bills for brand new parts of direct injection units etc if they ever go wrong.

for example toyota tundra 5.7 v8 seemingly a huge beast in pakistan(know as a avg family pickup elsewhere in the world) only has 381 hp from 5.7 and though it has better torque ratio a ford eco boost v6 has bigger towing capacity than the tundra.

Costs are High Cause of Gov Taxs and these Big Cars are not made in Pakistan So each and every Part even a Single Nut is Not found then Have to import it from japan or any other country that's why people here don't buy such Expensive cars here !!
People here think V8 is LC's Veriant cause on road we only see Bade Log Roaming LC V8s !!

[arzaam.bhatti]

Costs are High Cause of Gov Taxs and these Big Cars are not made in Pakistan So each and every Part even a Single Nut is Not found then Have to import it from japan or any other country that's why people here don't buy such Expensive cars here !!
People here think V8 is LC's Veriant cause on road we only see Bade Log Roaming LC V8s !!

i was tlaking about costs of brand new spares, its not about taxes but that cost of spare parts of these modern engines is high as they are more expsnive to make and all the cars that are 5-6year old or more on this list rely on junkyard parts as a source of spares thats why there owners get scared when they hear cost of orignal new parts. especially the prados or old landcruisers etc, i have mostly seen owners use junkyard or half cut parts as spares and then be happy with their so called "monsters".

[jehanzebnasir]

Inline V6 jeep can beat Tundra in Torque Power !!

Just to clear my concept;

Inline engines are different from V type engines, isn't it?

According to my little info:

In case of inline engine all the cylinders are place in one straight block, whereas in case of V type engines there are two engine blocks and half of the cylinders are placed in one and the other half are placed in other block however both are connected via a common crankshaft.

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[Marschall]

@arzaam.bhatti i think NA engines have more life and can go more miles......these new superchargers/turbochargers put alot of stress on the engines plus the turbolag and the parasitic power loss is a downside.....although turbo lag has but almost been eliminated in newer engines

[ali.7861]

i was tlaking about costs of brand new spares, its not about taxes but that cost of spare parts of these modern engines is high as they are more expsnive to make and all the cars that are 5-6year old or more on this list rely on junkyard parts as a source of spares thats why there owners get scared when they hear cost of orignal new parts. especially the prados or old landcruisers etc, i have mostly seen owners use junkyard or half cut parts as spares and then be happy with their so called "monsters".

For Sure there are tax on New Parts Myself bought Kabli Coils For My Swift cause 3s new part would have costed me 7k per Coil and i've bought all of then in 4.5k!!

[ali.7861]

Just to clear my concept;

Inline engines are different from V type engines, isn't it?

According to my little info:

In case of inline engine all the cylinders are place in one straight block, whereas in case of V type engines there are two engine blocks and half of the cylinders are placed in one and the other half are placed in other block however both are connected via a common crankshaft.

ater

Yes you are right !!

[arzaam.bhatti]

For Sure there are tax on New Parts Myself bought Kabli Coils For My Swift cause 3s new part would have costed me 7k per Coil and i've bought all of then in 4.5k!!

yes kaabli is another word for used and smuggled parts form the junkyard, obviously they would be much cheaper than brand new, but in case of swift you at least have the brand new option available, where as for such imported japanese cars it becomes very difficult to source oem brand new parts in the first place. and obviously swift is out of the picutre here in this thread.

[ali.7861]

yes kaabli is another word for used and smuggled parts form the junkyard, obviously they would be much cheaper than brand new, but in case of swift you at least have the brand new option available, where as for such imported japanese cars it becomes very difficult to source oem brand new parts in the first place. and obviously swift is out of the picutre here in this thread.

Yeah i do see Vigo Easly but Not Tundra Cause of Spare parts Problem !!
LC v8 Most of Rich Bussines Man and Politician have them..

[arzaam.bhatti]

@arzaam.bhatti i think NA engines have more life and can go more miles......these new superchargers/turbochargers put alot of stress on the engines plus the turbolag and the parasitic power loss is a downside.....although turbo lag has but almost been eliminated in newer engines

it depends, these new engines have been on the market on avg about 5 years and have not seen any hsortler life than thier avg counterparts though they need more time to prove their longevity, so time will tell, and about extra stress well yes compared to a say avg low revving NA engine, a free breathing turbocharged engine may put more stress but the components are also engineered to take that. and like you know turbo lag is pretty much non existent these days and these turbos are not oil cooled anymore so you dont have to cool them donw or idle them like in olden days so they have pretty long life. and parasitic losses are minimal as modern turbochargers are on their own more efficient due to the fact that engine itself is downsized.

there are still some really good NA engines but they are exceptions to the general rule and certainly not in any of the cars in the above list.

even superchargers have been left out in favour of turbochargers as they are more efficient compared to superchargers running of a belt which have more parasitic losses, thats why Mercedes and MINI etc all made the move from superchargers to turbochargers now that turbochargers are much improved.

[saboor73]

@arzaam.bhatti i think NA engines have more life and can go more miles......these new superchargers/turbochargers put alot of stress on the engines plus the turbolag and the parasitic power loss is a downside.....although turbo lag has but almost been eliminated in newer engines

Well I think a super/tubro chargred engine will not suffer from pumping and friction losses and will run much stress less