Very bad choice of oil for Pirius

[GoodMan7]

why did you put non recommended oil in a car, for your 2 cents you made such a poor decision and compromised on your shops quality standards and repute.
Plus the check engine light, are you sure your mechanic didnt changed the inverter oil instead.

dear sir, may i humbly request to plz read the previous posts including op before additing further comments. Thanks

[Xulfiqar]

dear sir, plz treat it as from point of discussion rather threatening.
That gentleman is will visit to us on saturday and if i am there at shop by that time, then i will certainly take the picture before and after oil change and will post here for your ref. Dont know at this point why you are acting like JUDGE in the court who as always wants to keep the superiority of the knowledge as upper hand. Cool man, chill.

I ran a workshop in Karachi, if a car rolled in my shop for an oil change, first thing to check is the current condition (aka lamp indications like engine check, battery, oil, brake etc and other broken parts) other bits to show to customer first - this is done to eliminate liability and bad practice.

the jobs are done after the owner agrees and signs off to the current state.

Reason is because firstly oil quality itself cannot turn on a check engine light - secondly for whatever reason the light is on should be verified by the working mechanic - (its called responsibility and being honest). That fault should be shown to the customer and rectified if possible.

There is no judging or superior BS going on - its called "standard practice". If this Prius owner was me and that was your shop - believe me you would be liable to explain and rectify it if the fault was current and not pending.

If a car comes in with no fault and has some work done (e.g. oil change) and then has a current fault after the work - the fault is recent and the technician working forgot something.

[Samialvi]

@xulfiqar Sir, kindly please clear your inbox.. Need to discuss something important!!

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[GoodMan7]

I ran a workshop in Karachi, if a car rolled in my shop for an oil change, first thing to check is the current condition (aka lamp indications like engine check, battery, oil, brake etc and other broken parts) other bits to show to customer first - this is done to eliminate liability and bad practice.

the jobs are done after the owner agrees and signs off to the current state.

Reason is because firstly oil quality itself cannot turn on a check engine light - secondly for whatever reason the light is on should be verified by the working mechanic - (its called responsibility and being honest). That fault should be shown to the customer and rectified if possible.

There is no judging or superior BS going on - its called "standard practice". If this Prius owner was me and that was your shop - believe me you would be liable to explain and rectify it if the fault was current and not pending.

If a car comes in with no fault and has some work done (e.g. oil change) and then has a current fault after the work - the fault is recent and the technician working forgot something.

dear sir, plz keep patience till that gentleman visit us again for oil change as i said in my previous post. Meanwhile i trust you will be having so many other topics to serve your energy.

[Double_Barrel]

20W50 is acceptable in karachi as the weather here is generally hot however manufacturer recommended oil sae is the best. Engine checklight has nothing to do with the oil as all cars, old and latest have an oil light in case oil pump malfunctions or oil level decreases. However it seems that the owner of this Prius perhaps needs a psychiatrist rather than a mechanic. I once put 20w50 in a cl9 I had and there was no problem.

Regards.

[huzaifa.haroon]

Honda recommends 0w-20 in Insight Hybrid , next time ill try that !!

[Xulfiqar]

dear sir, plz keep patience till that gentleman visit us again for oil change as i said in my previous post. Meanwhile i trust you will be having so many other topics to serve your energy.

Funny that you as a retail oil change service let a car roll out with a fault logged after you did a job on it, on a Prius the fault can be low oil pressure - that has to be immediately rectified and tested before the car goes on the road. It can happen due to a bad oil filter too - specially unbranded junk like leppon etc.

You just lost your brother's credibility of business, quite sad.

In my business - when I faced a customer like that I refused service - the customer is more than welcome to take his business elsewhere. e.g. if someone brings 2 big bottles of type A atf and asks me to change the ATF of his corolla, I would immediately refuse - no matter if I had zero business for the day or he's a first time customer.

[haroon_1]

Funny that you as a retail oil change service let a car roll out with a fault logged after you did a job on it, on a Prius the fault can be low oil pressure - that has to be immediately rectified and tested before the car goes on the road. It can happen due to a bad oil filter too - specially unbranded junk like leppon etc.

You just lost your brother's credibility of business, quite sad.

In my business - when I faced a customer like that I refused service - the customer is more than welcome to take his business elsewhere. e.g. if someone brings 2 big bottles of type A atf and asks me to change the ATF of his corolla, I would immediately refuse - no matter if I had zero business for the day or he's a first time customer.

Sir where is your workshop in Karachi? I m going to visit karachi very soon, so i can show u my car for anyother problem being there. I dun think so dere is more knowledgeable person around

[salik990]

i got home car prius 1500cc one n i will never advise anyone to use thick 20w50....its so thick tht it ll ruin ur prius mileage even on any brand new car....5w30 is perfect or 5w40

[salik990]

all the prius owner shud go to this forums Engine Oil in Prius - Toyota Prius Forum : Prius Online Toyota Forums

[GoodMan7]

i got home car prius 1500cc one n i will never advise anyone to use thick 20w50....its so thick tht it ll ruin ur prius mileage even on any brand new car....5w30 is perfect or 5w40

Yes, 5/30 and 5/40 both viscosities would be perfect.
but Prius is imported car, so it will be better if gentleman choose to feed the imported oil too like LM, Kixx, PTT, Valvoline, ZicXq, etc.

[GoodMan7]

i got home car prius 1500cc one n i will never advise anyone to use thick 20w50....its so thick tht it ll ruin ur prius mileage even on any brand new car....5w30 is perfect or 5w40

Yes, 5/30 and 5/40 both viscosities would be perfect.
but Prius is imported car, so it will be better if gentleman choose to feed the imported oil too like LM, Kixx, PTT, Valvoline, ZicXq, etc.

[Xulfiqar]

Sir where is your workshop in Karachi? I m going to visit karachi very soon, so i can show u my car for anyother problem being there. I dun think so dere is more knowledgeable person around

the part of "had" a workshop applies - it no longer exists as I moved out of Pakistan.

[omarabdullah022]

the part of "had" a workshop applies - it no longer exists as I moved out of Pakistan.

Isn't someone running it for you now? Which area was it in?

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[GoodMan7]

Eventually the gentleman came to our shop again yesterday while I was at my job so couldn't see him.
We poured Kixx neo 0/20. Rs. 2800/4L.
He went away and came to shop after 1 hour. He was so happy with this oil and told himself stupid nearly 10 times for his previous bad choice of oil. And now he is our regular client and promised that he will bring his other friends to our shop too who are having JDMs.

And as long as the engine light was concern, he said before he came to us last time (when he changed Caltex Motor Oil) he went to another mechanic for some checking. This is something he didn't informed when he visited last time and got panic about blinking of engine light.
But he went to workshop for the computerize check up and they make it perfect through computer. Now the light is not blinking or turned on anymore.

By the way, we asked him to change the oil (kixx new 0/20 tin pack) just after 4K. But next time he can run it upto 5~6K for sure.

[Xulfiqar]

Isn't someone running it for you now? Which area was it in?

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No - its gone, it was in SITE area though.

[Xulfiqar]

man,

never work on a car before verifying its current state. If the check light is on - verify with the customer.

[capsat]

chena malai - make a new TOPIC in Non-Wheels section - " Guilty Concious " move this whole discussion there please consider this 'last wish" from men at gallows

[GoodMan7]

i got home car prius 1500cc one n i will never advise anyone to use thick 20w50....its so thick tht it ll ruin ur prius mileage even on any brand new car....5w30 is perfect or 5w40

Have further studied that the best engine oil viscosity for hybrid cars like Prius (recommended by manufacturer) is 0/20.
Kixx Neo is 0/20 and very good synthetic oil. Price is Rs. 2800/4L and recommended mileage is 5~6K.
Its tine pack oil with golden writing over it. Try this next time depending upon your convenience.

[salik990]

Have further studied that the best engine oil viscosity for hybrid cars like Prius (recommended by manufacturer) is 0/20.
Kixx Neo is 0/20 and very good synthetic oil. Price is Rs. 2800/4L and recommended mileage is 5~6K.
Its tine pack oil with golden writing over it. Try this next time depending upon your convenience.

i find 0w20 too thin its also mentioned on my markx owner manual but i used LM synthoil 5w40 coz of our climate is hot/warm....for daily driven prius i think 5w30 or 5w40 is better choice for our climate btw 0/20 is the best to get fuel consumption also