Vintage & Classic Car Club of Pakistan

[wasifali89]

@intelect

Thank you for the number of seller !

I see many members of this forum are interested in the subject car , posted above !!

If we all jump up calling the guy and going to inspect the vehicle at the same time, the seller won't nudge and stick to his asking price, i.e whatever he is demanding.

Though I would love to get my hands on this ride and take it up as my first restoration project.....but after seeing so many interested members from Islamabad, already making plans to visit the car tomorow, leaves me no option but to step back.

I would say , best of luck guys !!

However if things dong mature , please do refer the car to me, only then I would make a call to the person selling the vehicle.

very well said sir.......
this is what happened just today

he is flooded with calls and notions that we are comming to see the car

now we all know the mechanics, he must have rose up to an insane price

[wasifali89]

A lot of cars that I buy are without papers at the time I buy them...as long as you are sure that the actual owner is selling that car and its not a stolen vehicle, go for it and get the papers done from excise....you may have to use influence of some kind or make a strong case....my cars that you see at the top of this page didnt have papers....Citroen is still without papers and I hope to be getting them made after almost 3 decades of ownership. Lincoln was phenominally expansive when I bought it so spent a lot of time at the Excise office and got the papers made.....my Mustang had no papers neither did the Healey and the split window beetle. Beetle papers got done last week and the car is in my name....Mustang got done last month after 10 years in my ownership.....Healey is still in the que.

If you like a car - grab it and get the papers done. This black Lincoln you mention is included in the disputed list.....now thats dicey.

Give an ad in the paper saying that you are planning to buy this car and the owner claims that he doesnt have regd papers. If anyomne has any objection to this sale please get in touch with so and so within 7 days of this notice.

thats very true mohisn bro,

but u know HOW to trace the original owner of this ?
the mechanic still has the stamp only........

and could you mention the risks if this is a disputed car and some police officer turns out at our place ?

[SharpShooter1]

thats very true mohisn bro,

but u know HOW to trace the original owner of this ?
the mechanic still has the stamp only........

and could you mention the risks if this is a disputed car and some police officer turns out at our place ?

U r right bro as Mohsin bro is too,problem with nawab cars is that till yesterday there was a case filed on 23 of nawabs vehicles.A friend of mine who was willing to buy a car he actually went at the residence and deal was finalised but the papers could not be transfered bcs of the stay by Lahore High Court.Now certainly it is a good car but unless one is sure that the seller is original then u can go & buy now this guy MR Kafayat who is mentioned is also not the real owner.The owner is someone who doesnot want to appear & this was told to me by Mr kafayat that he is speaking onbehalf of someone..........another mechanic.I mean that there is alot of confusion created himself by the owner or the car would have been sold long time ago........& the prize is like too much he is final giving it for 3 lacs 50 thousand but in this condition iam not in a position to comment may be Sir Mohsin or Wasif will know how much it will cost us on restoration and is it worth to buy restore & give it then to Customs Dep.............

[wasifali89]

U r right bro as Mohsin bro is too,problem with nawab cars is that till yesterday there was a case filed on 23 of nawabs vehicles.A friend of mine who was willing to buy a car he actually went at the residence and deal was finalised but the papers could not be transfered bcs of the stay by Lahore High Court.Now certainly it is a good car but unless one is sure that the seller is original then u can go & buy now this guy MR Kafayat who is mentioned is also not the real owner.The owner is someone who doesnot want to appear & this was told to me by Mr kafayat that he is speaking onbehalf of someone..........another mechanic.I mean that there is alot of confusion created himself by the owner or the car would have been sold long time ago........& the prize is like too much he is final giving it for 3 lacs 50 thousand but in this condition iam not in a position to comment may be Sir Mohsin or Wasif will know how much it will cost us on restoration and is it worth to buy restore & give it then to Customs Dep.............

i also agree to ppl here who say its worth a restore
but like im hearing court/police involvements in the car

i think we should back off as i have an authentic mechanic nearby that told me that once a buyer was threatened and on another occasion he told me that there are eyes on this cars movement.......

why he said that, as there was twice this car was moved off that parking space and he said that there was a chaos and didn't mention more

@mohsin bro

u must be having good track record on the cars owners/ importers since ages before you bought them, like 15 years of an effort for the VW split window...... u must feel like their family lawyer....... LOL

now this case is different as I have no history and specially we should back off when it comes to nawab's cars as of the disputes and FIRs involved with their assets.....

i would love to acquire some special help from govt. officials and authorities before putting my hands on this one.......... or else i am feeling insecure to acquire it.........

any help is appreciated

[ata_cheema]

[Cateyez]

Dear All
Many moons ago, I posted pics of this Lincoln parked in I&T center G-10/4. This car has been here for the last 20 years and I can tell it for a fact as I also live in the same sector. According to my info, this car was brought to Islamabad by a gentleman who is dead now. His son is also out of Pakistan and hence there is an issue with regard to the papers/ownership otherwise some enthusiast would have restored it earlier. And the current mechanic/denter is asking an unreasonable price (as is the case mostly). Why the car is with the mechanic/denter for so long is that the deceased gentleman wanted to restore it for himself but God had other plans and his son perhaps had no interest in classics.

[wasifali89]

Dear All
Many moons ago, I posted pics of this Lincoln parked in I&T center G-10/4. This car has been here for the last 20 years and I can tell it for a fact as I also live in the same sector. According to my info, this car was brought to Islamabad by a gentleman who is dead now. His son is also out of Pakistan and hence there is an issue with regard to the papers/ownership otherwise some enthusiast would have restored it earlier. And the current mechanic/denter is asking an unreasonable price (as is the case mostly). Why the car is with the mechanic/denter for so long is that the deceased gentleman wanted to restore it for himself but God had other plans and his son perhaps had no interest in classics.

maybe u are aware as well that there are ownership court cases involved with the car, thats why it was bought originally without papers and he didnt move on with the resto as he couldnt resolve the dispute, so there is no point in restoring a disputed car

[mohsinikram]

maybe u are aware as well that there are ownership court cases involved with the car, thats why it was bought originally without papers and he didnt move on with the resto as he couldnt resolve the dispute, so there is no point in restoring a disputed car

I agree....leave this car alone. Besides I have been told that a lot of parts are missing.

[mjabbasi]

Whoever is considering the purchase of a classic car should always take into account the chances that the car may not have documents/papers. Only a very meticulous person would care to keep the title documents in a safe place for over 30-40 years and over time, people die, move houses etc and things get lost and misplaced so looking for such a car only on the condition that it has documents will not leave you with much to choose from. Now the documents for my '63 Oldsmobile have been misplaced by the agent I gave them to for having the car transferred to my name and I cannot find him and I plan to sell off this car and even though I still have the number plates I know for a fact that potential buyers may try to exploit the 'no papers' issue in order to get the car for the lowest price but I'll be having none of it. I know exactly whom I bought the car from with the papers and they will simply have to take my word for it that the car is bonafide and legal and not stolen or disputed property. As long as you feel confident and assured that the car is not disputed or stolen and you are buying it from the actual owner, you should have no concerns.

As for the Ford 'Lo, Hi, Max' joke, many may not know it but Henry Ford himself was Jewish.

[VCheng]

As for the Ford 'Lo, Hi, Max' joke, many may not know it but Henry Ford himself was Jewish.

This may be off topic maybe, but please read these for some more insight:

Religious Roots: Henry Ford and Anti-Semitism

http://history.hanover.edu/hhr/99/hhr99_2.html

[hussainali_13]

is there any one in lahore selling a vintage car? like a chevrolet or something? doesnt have to be in mint condition, as long as it runs smooth and is reliable..

[mjabbasi]

This may be off topic maybe, but please read these for some more insight:

Religious Roots: Henry Ford and Anti-Semitism

Power, Ignorance, and Anti-Semitism: Henry Ford and His War on Jews

Very interesting, I never knew that. 2 people actually told me he was Jewish.

[VCheng]

Very interesting, I never knew that. 2 people actually told me he was Jewish.

Actually, Henry Ford was strongly pro-Arab. His recruiting policies in those days have led to the greatest concentration of Arabs in the USA in Dearborn, Michigan.

More info here, particularly the demographic section:

Dearborn, Michigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[ViKiNg]

I'm looking for a garage for my car, its a Chevrolet bellair 1957. It's quite a big in size and I have no space available to keep it. Is there anyone who could help me find a safe and secure garage on rent for this size of a car so I could keep it there for sometime.
I hope you guys can help me out with it.

[SharpShooter1]

[Zain16]

hi,
vn is vintage car show diz yr...?

[hussainali_13]

does any one know where i can get a 70s datsun 120y or a markII from in lahore?
heelppp pleeaasseeeee!! urgenttt

[mohsinikram]

hi,
vn is vintage car show diz yr...?

6 Feb at the Forum

[NaveedRizvi]

Will any one like to have a Haynes manual for citroen and Fiat Uno

[Zain16]

thnx!!