Vintage & Classic Car Club of Pakistan

[mohsinikram]

Ok - Guys I just spoke to Omar Leghari. That Ponton Coupe is probably the one he owned because he sold it to someone who lives in Pindi. I have asked him to call that person up and ask him if he wants to sell it back. That car should not be wasted.

[mohsinikram]

@shujjah
great discovery man. one of the best so far on this thread.....keep 'em coming

[alvis]

Mohsin

You need very very deep pockets to get this to an acceptable state. The chrome interior and exterior trim is a real shock if you have to buy it.
Hope someone is up to the challenge.
Last time I checked the chrome rear bumper was available USED for abot GBP 2500 !!

Sami

Such a beauty is bound to be in merc heaven !

[mohsinikram]

@alvis
the last time I saw this car was almost 15 years ago at Omar Leghari's house. It was in bad condition - body had some rust but the car was completely intact. I hope the trim parts are still there and more importantly the bumpers.

[jamaal]

@ Sundeath

hey....id like more info on the BMW bikes you say might be available..could you write to me at z_k52@yahoo.com

thanks

[mohsinikram]

@Libra
do u think this thread is the fastest growing and the largest on pakwheels.......

[safeershah]

@mohsin

I can feel excitement in you as a vintage car lover your collection will never be completed, I am getting strong vibes that you are going to buy the ponton but in my opinion KC should buy it , what u say ?

[au]

safeer.

i emailed you on pakwheels a few weeks ago now, perhaps you havent checked your account. in anycase, if i recall correctly, you had split window vw microbus for sale. you had posted a few pictures aswell. i was wondering if it is infact still for sale and what the general situation with that has become?

you may email me on pakwheels if you do not wish to reply here, i dont mind either ways.

[Shujjah]

Thx for appreciatn my discovery.Actually i have a huge photo collection of almost all the classics of isb,i also send a few to mohsin uncle.I thnk i shld also start postn wateva is in my little knwldge it mite help speed up the thread.
I ll post sum pics for beetle lovers in sum days as i dunt wanna flood the thread with so many thngs.I am also lookn forwrd to buy sum of the mst exotic hidden classic of pk in ma summer vacation aftr my exams.And those cars gonna be a blast in classic car scene.

[buksh]

Mohsin yes it is indeed the fastest growing and the largest on pakwheels. I have been a member for a while first was silent and then active never seen anything like it

[Shujjah]

I waz tryng to post a pic of 2 sedan ponton which mite be usd as donor car but nets tooo slow.
Mohsin uncle confrmd tht coupe waz sold by Mr leghari.As far as i know its ownd by the ownr of bakeman or united bakery but not sure.tried calln the owner but he waznt pikn,i ll call him tmrw and cnfrm abt the car.I thnk there might be anthr cuope in peshawer but not sure,ll confirm in few days.No light here so i ll post pics of RR tomrw mohsin uncle.

[mohsinikram]

@safeershah
I am excited and sad at the same time to see that car rediscovered. I am not planning to buy that car....my only interest is that it should be saved. I wonder why you mention KC....he would be one of the first persons to know from me that this car is available if it is available but amongst the pakweelers, I would love to see this car go to asadishaque or alvis.....the most important element of this hobby in my eyes is passion for a particular car. A lot of social climbers buy classic cars without passion or enthusiasm for such cars. They sadly get bracketed as car restorers par excellence and car collectors. Restoration of this car is not everybody's cup of tea. Upgrading a car cosmetically from B to B+ or from C to B is entirely different from transforming a wreck into C or B. I am not passionate about this particular model of Mercedes, so I have little desire to buy it. I 'll never buy a car just because it is old or is valuable. I have to like that car, the history behind it, the thinking behind it's design etc. etc. The car that I buy has to be an extension of my dream....

[mohsinikram]

here 's the Ponton under discussion. This pic was taken at Mr. Leghari's house in 1990-1.

[safeershah]

@mohsin

well I mentioned KC name because as alvis said that you need very very deep pockets for restoration :), and you know very well that after a level its a rich man hobby, being vintage car lover is very diffrent then restoring a car which demand high money, and normally near all the collecter are celeb or rich because its a status symbol and being stand out of a crown which you can say social climbing ,a normal person cant even afford the maintenance cost of a vintage vehicle ( I am not talking about beetle or fiat 500 )

[safeershah]

@shuja

Mohsin uncle....? for heaven sake he is just 20 ( at heart) having grey hair doesnt mean you are old , in that case I was uncle in my high school :), let me know if the owner is willing to sale and all the body panel and bumpers are there then there is a chance to save it by.....

[romano]

@Mohsin, social climber? Moi? Boy, we have started a major case of foot in mouth disease here...naah just giving you a hard time so glad Iwasnt the cause!
After yesterday's meet with my VW acquaintance it transpires that he has the elusive red Fiat Multipla! Its in need of a resto and some engine parts, but at least its been spared the Kabaria axe! So happy this cute cheeky car is around! Sami, care to post us a nice pic? The original MPV, dont you agree?

[mohsinikram]

@safeershah
thanks for making me feel young. There are collectors (hoarders) and there are genuine enthusiasts. Nick Mason of Pink Floyd doesnt need any more fame or social climbing, yet he has a fabolous collection and he uses them regularly. He works on them with his own hands, he races them, fixes them himself when they break down etc. etc. Thats an enthusiast. Nicolas Cage, he doesnt need social climbing yet he is into cars and uses them....what about Jay Leno, he works in his own garage, he uses them, drives them to his show, races them and let others race his cars....thats enthusiasm. Yes, you need deep pockets but for me passion is more important. A guy who lovingly maintains a beetle and enjoys it thoroughly is more acceptable to me than someone with an exotic car which he finds too cumbersome to drive and maintain.....thats the difference. Lets not take names here, KC is a dear friend and a great car enthusiast. He is one of those rare ones who loves using his cars which I highly appreciate and also does a lot of maintainence work himself. Knowing him quite well, he would not venture into basket cases....like I said, having deep pockets is just not enough when you are looking at a basket case project.

[mohsinikram]

@romano
I don't like when money dominates passion thus the argument with my dear friend safeer.

You made my day when you told me about the Multipla. There used to be one in Karachi which unfortunately couldn't avoid the scrapers torch. Here are a few pics...This indeed was the first MPV

[mohsinikram]

@safeer
on another note, I am not rich, my bank balance is usually zero, I sometimes struggle to make a payment of 20,000 in one go. I don't own a house, land or any other assets. I started as a junior accountant in a hotel with a salary of Rs.2,200/- and during that time somehow managed to buy a a Frogeye Sprite for Rs.2,900. Soon after bought a Fiat 500 for Rs.2,700......then later an MG TD for Rs.4,000/-. I used my Jaguar Mk V as a daily transport atleast during winters for 8 years at a stretch, during this time my average salary was 12,000/- per month. When I was a student, I managed to buy a Citroen Traction with partially my money and some help from my mom. I used it for many years, maintained it myself etc. didn't have money to buy second hand tires, went to supertread and asked them to retread my tires for free and against that I 'll put their name on my windscreen.....it was done. So when you have passion you can just about do anything and you enjoy it more. A lot more than a some rich dude who gets a cheque book restoration done and never uses his car only keeps it to show. End of discussion - lets get back to cars.

[hawke100]

Greetings to all seniors,
As I am writing my first post in this forum which makes me youngest among all. First off All Hats off to VCCCP don't have words to express the amount of effort and dedication put in. Since most of you are masters of restoration. one of my friend have a 1952 Morris Minor two door which is he is selling if anyone of you interested then I can forward you contact details and location. I can tell you that car is in its original engine, even carby is the original as well, I think it is a side drought carby. have bits of spares which I don't know.

Regards
Arbab