There's no question about me being a gentleman about it, I just haven't come online the last few days. Mohsin lets stop playing moderator here. I said what I wanted to say and hence am proving my point by replying to you. You have very valid points regarding the purpose of this forum/thread and if the owners are having nightmares about their cars being viewed by others, let them come here and voice their grievance. My suggestion is that henceforth why not have everyone add the name of the person who takes photos while car spotting, because it seems half of this silly argument is over who took the photos, especially when I did not even take credit for them. I've been pretty active in this hobby for a long time now and seen, heard, witnessed and been the recipient of alot of BS which includes getting calls from people, asking all sorts of silly questions over and over again regarding these type of cars when its fairly clear they have no intention of ever getting such cars, and tried to make my own contribution to this hobby and sometimes on this thread, but this childish nonsense is only serving to put me off even more. The next time I get a call from one of these fuddy duddys, I just may not be so receptive.