@wackkhan the creatine is for 3100 and nitro-tech is for 4000.
@haseeb114 supplements are fine...the only thing that's bad is steroids OR if you take something like Gultamine in high quantity....even if you eat sugar like crazy you will get sugar prob....supplements are fine as long as you eat them as recommended. and these are FDA approved products.
P.S if these were so bad then there would have been information on these specific products that these are dangerous. with these atlest you know what you are getting. Not like those pills/injections that some guy will offer you in gym and won't tell you what it is =) (now thats dangerous)
Note for ppl that don't have much information on these supplements....SUPPLEMENTS ARE NOT STEROIDS.