Yaar dont know why everyone is so against Havoline :P. I have been using Havoline for a while now, never had any issue with my CG125. Granted i always purchase Havoline from the Caltex petrol pump in F-6 Markaz, Islamabad. But i can understand everyone's issue with its quality as there are a lot of fake variants of it. Experienced it myself. My experience with ZIC not so good.