Zic XQ Vs KIXX PAO

[mianaasim]

Yesterday I read the Kixx's broucher.
Good news is that they have 0.5Kg packing for greese.
But bad news is that its only for NGLI2 & 3. Even I spoken with their representative.

After checking the details on brouchers, I got to know that even their NGLI1 or NGLI0, both of them don't have element like Silicone or copper antiszeize, etc. All of their greese 0,1,2 & 3 have Lithium Thicker. But they clearly mentioned that 2 & 3 can also be used in EP. EP stands for Extreme pressure. Whereas when I checked the Caltex or Sinopec greese, their NGLI2 & 3 are NOT recommended to use in EP.

By the way I'll check with PTT today and will inform if there is any good news.

Grease has two main ingredients--

1. A lubricant that combats friction
2. A thickener, which gives the grease the consistency that will hold it in place next to moving parts

Bhai jaan NLGI is like thickness/viscosity grading. A grease having any NLGI grading can have any lubricating ingredient. for example a NLGI-2 grease can be a lithium grease, silicone grease, graphite grease or molybdenum disulfide grease.

Silicone grease can be used to provide lubrication and corrosion resistance where oil-based lubricants would attack rubber parts/seals, moreover, it maintain stability under high temperatures.

whereas

EP grease contains solid lubricants, usually graphite and/or molybdenum disulfide, to provide protection under heavy loadings. The solid lubricants bonds to the surface of the metal and when the lubricant film gets too thin, the solid lubricant prevents metal-to-metal contact and the resulting friction and wear.

So, we are looking for silicone based grease.

[Xulfiqar]

Yesterday I read the Kixx's broucher.
Good news is that they have 0.5Kg packing for greese.
But bad news is that its only for NGLI2 & 3. Even I spoken with their representative.

After checking the details on brouchers, I got to know that even their NGLI1 or NGLI0, both of them don't have element like Silicone or copper antiszeize, etc. All of their greese 0,1,2 & 3 have Lithium Thicker. But they clearly mentioned that 2 & 3 can also be used in EP. EP stands for Extreme pressure. Whereas when I checked the Caltex or Sinopec greese, their NGLI2 & 3 are NOT recommended to use in EP.

By the way I'll check with PTT today and will inform if there is any good news.

The morons in the business of such lubes are usually in "dont care mode" when it comes to speciality greases. All they care is their "blue band session" with their bosses.

[syncview]

If someone needs nlgi0 or 1 dielectric silicone grease, I can arrange from KHI
I haven't been able find such items in Lahore yet

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[mianaasim]

Just wait for a day or two for Lahore

[syncview]

Ki karan lagay o paijaan?

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[mianaasim]

Sourcing. Availability will not be an issue. Rest i will share soon.

Another thing we all are overlooking is Copper Antiseize.

[mianaasim]

@xulfiqar. Checking

1- new brake pads
2- new brake fluid 1 liter
3- plastic tubing + jar for fluid bleeding
4- c clamp for brake piston
4- copper antiseize for brake pad backing plates
5- silicone grease for caliper guides

-All ok?
-how much silicone grease to be applied on slider pins and boot?
-boots needs to be lubricated from outer side?
-which lubricant to be applied on the edges of the pads which seat on the carrier springs? These springs also needs lubrication?
-copper antiseize should also be applied on caliper where backing plates touch?

[Xulfiqar]

yep - all is good,

a dab or two of silicone grease slathered on the pins is enough - be sure to degrease them first of the old nasty wasted grease.

[mianaasim]

-boots needs to be lubricated from outer side?
-which lubricant to be applied on the edges of the pads which seat on the carrier springs? These springs also needs lubrication?
-copper antiseize should also be applied on caliper where backing plates touch?

@xulfiqar. These questions remained unanswered. Plz reply.

[Xulfiqar]

pad carrier ears take a dab of silicone grease,

the slider boots do not need anything outside the boots - their job is to prevent dirt and water from getting into the slider pin areas.

antisieze is applied to the pad backing plate (and shim if installed)

[mianaasim]

Then carrier springs will also take a dab of silicone grease?

[syncview]

Springs?

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[mianaasim]

Springs?

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Where brake pad ears are fitted in caliper.

[syncview]

Anti rattle springs? No need to lubricate those just apply copper anti seize on the back of pads then place shims or anti rattle spring

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[mianaasim]

Teaser.

[mashriqain]

Teaser.

Cool! Where did you find this and the cost??? I got Permatex anti-seize from Karachi, directly from their distributor, who also happens to be distributor of MolySLIP (UK). Didn't ask about silicone paste of MolySLIP or their anti-seize, they may have some in stock. Here's my stuff so far:

• 3M has a distributor in Lahore. They sell some 3M stuff on TCSConnect, I got brake cleaner from there.
• Silicone paste/grease, try your luck with the 3M distributor if you can visit their office. You should tell them they need to offer it too since it is also a car care product. I got it from Amazon.

Please post information about the MolySLIP grease "where to buy" in the PW Grease topic here:

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/oil-fuel-fluids-filters/204058-grease-3#post4212919

[mianaasim]

Tell the prices of all 4 things separately?

[mashriqain]

Tell the prices of all 4 things separately?

3M Brake Cleaner = Rs.640
3M Silicone Paste = 19$ from Amazon
Permatex 09128 Copper Anti-Seize Lubricant, 8 oz. (226 g) = Rs.800
Permatex 77124 Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant 8 oz. (226 g) = Rs.600

Shipping was additional Rs.100-150 for the Permatex.

[mianaasim]

3M Brake Cleaner = Rs.640
3M Silicone Paste = 19$ from Amazon
Permatex 09128 Copper Anti-Seize Lubricant, 8 oz. (226 g) = Rs.800
Permatex 77124 Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant 8 oz. (226 g) = Rs.600

Shipping was additional Rs.100-150 for the Permatex.

Wat is the quantity of Silicone paste? And how much total u paid for this in pak rupee?

[mianaasim]

@adnanzafar71 ur input will be appreciated.