Toyota Vigo - Rent-a-car Scam

[ammadqureshi]

Respected Gurus,

I was on the annual trip to GB with my family, on return while driving towards Babusar Top, my Vehicle (Vigo) wasn't taking power and it was unable for me to drive it further. I applied 4x4 but it goes in vain, then i applied "Special Gear" and after 500 meters the CAR stopped and the engine switched off.

It was the rented vehicle and i have no previous experience with 4x4 handling.

Upon consulting a mechanic in Chilas, he told me that the Gen Kit and Gas Kit has been burned.

Now I am seeking for the expert advise to repair the car in minimum.

I am based in Rawalpindi.

Kindly advise.

[Xulfiqar]

if you did roast the gasket (most likely if you had super high egt or severely overheated the engine or the renting place did a gasket job and installed "desi faybar wali gesskut - puranay walay bolt dubbal washal ke saath")

the only and correct way to redo this job on this engine is a new MLS steel gasket (multilayer sandwich) and new headbolts finished off with a torque ratchet (the final pass of tightening really taxes the muscles of the mechanic who is working on it.

[ammadqureshi]

if you did roast the gasket (most likely if you had super high egt or severely overheated the engine or the renting place did a gasket job and installed "desi faybar wali gesskut - puranay walay bolt dubbal washal ke saath")

the only and correct way to redo this job on this engine is a new MLS steel gasket (multilayer sandwich) and new headbolts finished off with a torque ratchet (the final pass of tightening really taxes the muscles of the mechanic who is working on it.

Any reliable mechanic in your opinion for this job in twin cities??

[afnan.bashir]

Any reliable mechanic in your opinion for this job in twin cities??

It is highly unlikely that you will find any good mechanic with torque ratchet

[ammadqureshi]

It is highly unlikely that you will find any good mechanic with torque ratchet

Sir I am totally unaware of these technical terms... but at the moment badly stuck in the situation.

[afnan.bashir]

Sir I am totally unaware of these technical terms... but at the moment badly stuck in the situation.

If its not your car and if it was peviously in bad shape just get it working from anyone there why do you fear of bad mechanics but i suggest your best bet is toyota 3s no doubt they will charge fortune

[ammadqureshi]

If its not your car and if it was peviously in bad shape just get it working from anyone there why do you fear of bad mechanics but i suggest your best bet is toyota 3s no doubt they will charge fortune

Afnaj bro.... kindly check ur inbox

[afnan.bashir]

Afnaj bro.... kindly check ur inbox

Well i am not a 4x4 guy but i understand engines (i think 30% ). If its head gasket then check if someone can change it there rather than you toe it to pindi. @capsat @syncview may be able to help better.

See this
http://www.moranbahweather.com/toyota/lc_trj12/rm/rm990e/m_14_0229.pdf shows gasket replacement

On other thread

For any reliable rebuild - first find a mechanic who is reasonable and has a clean room/space/shelter to work on the engine, Now the owner in Pakistan will have to get the following few additional parts for a proper rebuild to take place.

1 - Torque ratchets x 2, 1 high torque and one low torque
2 - Genuine Toyota Form in Place Gasket FIPG
3 - Engine enamel for block (you can choose flouroscent yellow if you like)
4 - Dial gauge or even feelers work to select the correct gasket thickness
5 - lots of assembly lube
6 - tap and die set to clean every thread on the engine
7 - make sure the machinist knows his work - diesel engines have a deep scratch hone on the cylinders.

the parts list other than the usual "parchoon" should include.

new cylinder head bolts
new con-rod cap bolts
new flywheel/flexplate bolts
new crankshaft pulley bolt

Follow Toyota manual procedure and you wont have any issues down the road. Dont let the "cheeta qism ka mechanic" use "vashurr" on the cylinder head bolts to make up for them stretching - they are useless after one use hence the term torque to yield bolts.

Dont let the engine idle for centuries - as the first 20 minutes of startup are the most critical for bearing seating - hold at 1500 rpm for 20 minutes, use the engine like it should be used (no thrashing tho) to break it in. Idling it while the haleem cooks or you get wrinkles on your face will make sure the rebuild is useless as the rings will not seal up against the cylinders.

[capsat]

Respected Gurus,

I was on the annual trip to GB with my family, on return while driving towards Babusar Top, my Vehicle (Vigo) wasn't taking power and it was unable for me to drive it further. I applied 4x4 but it goes in vain, then i applied "Special Gear" and after 500 meters the CAR stopped and the engine switched off.

It was the rented vehicle and i have no previous experience with 4x4 handling.

Upon consulting a mechanic in Chilas, he told me that the Gen Kit and Gas Kit has been burned.

Now I am seeking for the expert advise to repair the car in minimum.

I am based in Rawalpindi.

Kindly advise.

since you are not the owner of vehicle the best bet is tow it to your place, call up the rental guys and give them assurance of a mutually acceptable way out. - DO NOT - DO NOT attempt to get the vehicle fixed anywhere simply tow it back. No wonder if you choose repairs the rental guys will come chasing you and scam you for very long time. and this trip over a previously fu^c^ked up 4x4 could be a nightmare to remember for very long.

[ammadqureshi]

@capsat

I have talked with the rental GUY, he has already shown his teeth that his own mechanic will check the vehicle and will get it fixed and the estimate should be conveyed to me.

I have already decided that I will hand him over the vehicle, will get him agreed on some win win amount.

As i have never been to such rental vehicles deals, so i am not much aware of their tricks and tactics.

[Xulfiqar]

this sounds like a scammy situation honestly.

a car rental provider should provide you a good running vehicle, please note that a good running vehicle is not a clobbered together collection of scrap metal with jugaarbaazi all around the engine.

On the same note, you should have verified all such technical/repair details before setting off with the vehicle because you are going offroad with it.

[ammadqureshi]

this sounds like a scammy situation honestly.

a car rental provider should provide you a good running vehicle, please note that a good running vehicle is not a clobbered together collection of scrap metal with jugaarbaazi all around the engine.

On the same note, you should have verified all such technical/repair details before setting off with the vehicle because you are going offroad with it.

Xulfiqar bhai.... can i have your number pls... mine is 03022202222

[Proverbial_Slang]

if you did roast the gasket (most likely if you had super high egt or severely overheated the engine or the renting place did a gasket job and installed "desi faybar wali gesskut - puranay walay bolt dubbal washal ke saath")

the only and correct way to redo this job on this engine is a new MLS steel gasket (multilayer sandwich) and new headbolts finished off with a torque ratchet (the final pass of tightening really taxes the muscles of the mechanic who is working on it.

But its a rented vehicle and the job needs to be done cheap... the way it was done before probably. Check land cruiser club for good workshops in Pindi.

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[capsat]

sir i respectfully suggest, act wise. simply get the vehicle in town call up rental guy, offer him his rental money as agreed. and then request him to find an amicable economical way out of it. i.e for engine repairs.

I can assure you that LOSER OWNER was very well aware of his vehicle f'uc'ked up condition with zero maintenance. - do not - attempt any repairs anywhere on your own. -

2 cents suggestions... @Xulfiqar

[ammadqureshi]

@capsat

I am grateful SIR.

[capsat]

this is the spirit of this forum, to help, to resolve issues to best possible honest way, and impart knowledge with experience stay safe stay blessed @ammadqureshi & thank you @libra for being shepherd to all nutheads

[qwertypoiu]

Refuse to pay him anything and tell him to back off as he already provided you a bad vehicle.
If you accept you will foot the bill then he sure will ripp you off.
Its a car like car not rocket science so it has nothing to do with your experience with 4x4 or not.

[qwertypoiu]

Few weeks you refuse and then pay him half the amount what he is asking for..
Involve some mechanic of your own who gives him low quotes of repairs... etc.

As I know if you act like an gentleman then he will sort out every single problem he has in the vehicle since he bought it.

[capsat]

exactly @qwertypoiu u put it RAW while i was more 'civilised' ( unreal of me )

[car_bus2008]

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