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    Am Usman from Faisalabad , I bought Brand New Honda City in December 2010 , previously I was using Toyota Corolla XLI ( 2007) .<o:p></o:p>
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    Honda City is my first entry to Honda Cars , at 400km I complained Honda Faisalabad about knocking of my car in low speed specially in gear 1 & 2 while AC on.<o:p></o:p>
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    Service team at Honda just beat about the bush and advised me to keep using the car it is normal. <o:p></o:p>
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    I have been to Murree and cannot explain my worst experience , too much knocking in Gear No-2 , car loose power & pick in gear 2.<o:p></o:p>
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    Fuel average 11.7km / ltr on motorway with AC on , without AC it did 13KM. Within City drive 7~8km / ltr. <o:p></o:p>
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    While AC on I felt I am driving Suzuki Cultus. My FAMILY also noticed AC not cooling as much for back seats as Toyota did . <o:p></o:p>
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    2<SUP>nd</SUP> gear of Honda City is just disgusting and it can cause accident.<o:p></o:p>
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    Sudden loss of pick & power especially while car comes in lower gear 2 from higher gear 4 and vise versa.
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    I used engine oils like , MOBIL 1 , HONDA Fully Synthetic but issue remained the same.<o:p></o:p>
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    Tried fuel from various pumps and also used HI-OCTANE from TOTAL . <o:p></o:p>
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    Mobil-1 & High Octane 30% resolved my issue . <o:p></o:p>
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    I am disappointed from Honda Service Team whenever i told them about my issue they said car is normal and live with it , Kindly advise any solution otherwise I have made up my mind to sale it & shift back to Toyota.

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    Honda said they have upgraded City Software in 2009 . Whereas mine version is DEC 2010.

    I have feel that most of you guys are in Car Hobby thats why have different experiments and views . Cars are not my hobby , i just want to drive it while utalizing the most available resources in my country.

    I have bought car for my pleasure not for car's pleasure !

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    Honda said they have upgraded City Software in 2009 . Whereas mine version is DEC 2010.

    I have feel that most of you guys are in Car Hobby thats why have different experiments and views . Cars are not my hobby , i just want to drive it while utalizing the most available resources in my country.

    I have bought car for my pleasure not for car's pleasure !
    if youve have lived here your entire life then you should know that not everything is what its claimed to be.
    petrol stations sell fuel at a lower octane level then they claim, and since these new cars require higher octane the bad quality fuel cause knocking issues etc

    now all fellow members are trying to help you with information they know can help with the issue you are dealing with,honda is not entirely to blame as nobody can ensure the quality of petrol avilable.please take some of the advice,its not an experiment.and see if its solves the problem if not then come back and ask for more solutions.and there is no need to reject peoples views before even experiences them yourself.
    you have to takecare of the car not the other way around,whether its your hobby or not.

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    @StarTec

    Sir i think this small-time small-town car isnt ur piece of cake. Sell it and get urself an M5 bimmer!

    As for the AC, bro i literally have to put it from 4 to 3 after five mins running in the scorchiest of sunlights because everyone starts saying its gettin too cold in the car, so i think the one u got has somethin seriously wrong in it, even consumption wise im easily getting 18 km per litre with AC on during long drives, my car is now 10k run. I have not even done a spec of modification mechanically except gettin better tires so car hobbiest or not but i think uve been using mercs or bimmers in another country maybe and this just isnt ur standard, change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague27 View Post
    if youve have lived here your entire life then you should know that not everything is what its claimed to be.
    petrol stations sell fuel at a lower octane level then they claim, and since these new cars require higher octane the bad quality fuel cause knocking issues etc

    now all fellow members are trying to help you with information they know can help with the issue you are dealing with,honda is not entirely to blame as nobody can ensure the quality of petrol avilable.please take some of the advice,its not an experiment.and see if its solves the problem if not then come back and ask for more solutions.and there is no need to reject peoples views before even experiences them yourself.
    you have to takecare of the car not the other way around,whether its your hobby or not.
    Dear , i have tried every solution mentioned here before joining PW.
    Kindly read my article again , i mentioed every effort.

    i did mention Mobil 1 & Hi-Octane 30% resolved my problem but not 100%.

    Regarding Hi-Octane , not a single petrol pump stocks that fuel here in FSD , also i searched for this fuel in Lahore and get it in 2nd chance from Total Pump at MM ALAM Road , Hi-Octane fuel is now very hard to get. My point is if we cannot get appropriate stuff that is required by Car Manufacturer for this car then i am afarid we cannot drive this car in Pakistan.
    Being a business man i bought this car to get relaxed not to put my self in trouble . I simply cannot waste my trip enjoyment in finding required fuel pumps for this car in cities lime islamabad where i dont know which pump stocks which oil . So thats why i mentioned only those who are taking this Car as Hobby and perosnally involved may get their issues resolved.
    but in fact it is not possibloe for every one.

    I think thats why Suzuki and Toyota are best selling arround due to their better understanding about Pakistan Market. I never heard any person complaining fuel quality or similar basic hessels in Suzuki and Toyota nor i faced any problem with these 2 brands in last 20 years.

    Look at Swift , all over the world they introduced this model with advance engines why in Pakistan they used old Lina engine in it ? I hope you understand my point of view.

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    2 things!

    1) Fuel economy WILL improve a lot when u cross 5000kms mark

    2) There IS some issue with the citys which were manufactured in 2010, later, they reprogramed the ECUs of new cars and the knocking issues were gone.

    Go to some GOOD honda authorized dealer and tell them to re-program the ECU so that the knocking stops.
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    BUy a Corolla again simple isnt it.There are being issues complained for city on knocking.If you are so much angry with the car then sell it and buy rolla otherwise if you can have repaired it under warranty or something that .Keep it
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    Quote Originally Posted by startec View Post

    i think thats why suzuki and toyota are best selling arround due to their better understanding about pakistan market. I never heard any person complaining fuel quality or similar basic hessels in suzuki and toyota nor i faced any problem with these 2 brands in last 20 years.

    Look at swift , all over the world they introduced this model with advance engines why in pakistan they used old lina engine in it ? I hope you understand my point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarTec View Post
    Dear , i have tried every solution mentioned here before joining PW.
    Kindly read my article again , i mentioed every effort.

    i did mention Mobil 1 & Hi-Octane 30% resolved my problem but not 100%.

    Regarding Hi-Octane , not a single petrol pump stocks that fuel here in FSD , also i searched for this fuel in Lahore and get it in 2nd chance from Total Pump at MM ALAM Road , Hi-Octane fuel is now very hard to get. My point is if we cannot get appropriate stuff that is required by Car Manufacturer for this car then i am afarid we cannot drive this car in Pakistan.
    Being a business man i bought this car to get relaxed not to put my self in trouble . I simply cannot waste my trip enjoyment in finding required fuel pumps for this car in cities lime islamabad where i dont know which pump stocks which oil . So thats why i mentioned only those who are taking this Car as Hobby and perosnally involved may get their issues resolved.
    but in fact it is not possibloe for every one.

    I think thats why Suzuki and Toyota are best selling arround due to their better understanding about Pakistan Market. I never heard any person complaining fuel quality or similar basic hessels in Suzuki and Toyota nor i faced any problem with these 2 brands in last 20 years.

    Look at Swift , all over the world they introduced this model with advance engines why in Pakistan they used old Lina engine in it ? I hope you understand my point of view.

    People who switch to Honda after 10-20yrs,like u did, post almost similar comments initially but they are more then happy after some time.

    if u ve read my last post, u shud know that this problem has already been addressed by Honda guys and they were reprogramming ECUs of cars from 2010 free of cost (dont know if they are still doing that).so , if u get it done too there ll be no problem with ur car at all.
    mileage will increase upto 16km/ltr within city until u reach 10,000kms.

    apart from this, if u need any,i mean ANY kind of detailed and reliable information about any model of honda city, just check this thread.

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/whe...91#post2831170
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    Quote Originally Posted by mubeenshahid View Post
    BUy a Corolla again simple isnt it.There are being issues complained for city on knocking.If you are so much angry with the car then sell it and buy rolla otherwise if you can have repaired it under warranty or something that .Keep it
    how much commission do u get for each toyota sold through ur reference?


    and the idea of comparing honda and toyota with suzuki is completely silly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    how much commission do u get for each toyota sold through ur reference?


    and the idea of comparing honda and toyota with suzuki is completely silly!
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    Look at Swift , all over the world they introduced this model with advance engines why in Pakistan they used old Lina engine in it ? I hope you understand my point of view.

    Sir, with due respect, let me stat a well known fact here.
    Suzuki people are giving us old liana engined swift because they KNOW, that most of the buyers are stupids who dont even know what engine it really is.most of the buyers dont care for anything at all other then resale value.
    that is the only reason why we are still getting 20 yrs old diesel engines in toyota corolla 2.0D!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    People who switch to Honda after 10-20yrs,like u did, post almost similar comments initially but they are more then happy after some time.

    if u ve read my last post, u shud know that this problem has already been addressed by Honda guys and they were reprogramming ECUs of cars from 2010 free of cost (dont know if they are still doing that).so , if u get it done too there ll be no problem with ur car at all.
    mileage will increase upto 16km/ltr within city until u reach 10,000kms.

    apart from this, if u need any,i mean ANY kind of detailed and reliable information about any model of honda city, just check this thread.

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/whe...91#post2831170

    Dear I told various times on the forum that my car ECU is already preprogramed with the latest one . I told this to honda as well and they checked ECU version and told me it is the lastest one that i have in my Car , so i request all of you to kindly dont advise again and again me for latest ECU or HI-OCTANE. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    how much commission do u get for each toyota sold through ur reference?


    and the idea of comparing honda and toyota with suzuki is completely silly!
    sir with due respect , we are not here comparing cars rather than peace of mind . thank you for your kind understanding.

    a suzuki meharn taking you from Lahore to murree with regular oil is much better than a BMW just finding appropriate fuel on motor ways , Islamabad , Murree and finally stops on the road balming " pure fuel not found ". Enjoy your trip . Got It ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarTec View Post
    Dear I told various times on the forum that my car ECU is already preprogramed with the latest one . I told this to honda as well and they checked ECU version and told me it is the lastest one that i have in my Car , so i request all of you to kindly dont advise again and again me for latest ECU or HI-OCTANE. Thanks
    oh! now we ve got a problem!
    well, try 50-50 hi octane then. bad fuel is the reason why cars do knocking. and there aint any fault of the car in it.around the world,cars WILL do that if fuel quality is not upto the mark.so blame the real thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarTec View Post
    sir with due respect , we are not here comparing cars rather than peace of mind . thank you for your kind understanding.

    a suzuki meharn taking you from Lahore to murree with regular oil is much better than a BMW just finding appropriate fuel on motor ways , Islamabad , Murree and finally stops on the road balming " pure fuel not found ". Enjoy your trip . Got It ?
    yup! got it! why not switch to mehran then? if thats what gives u peace of mind!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Sir, with due respect, let me stat a well known fact here.
    Suzuki people are giving us old liana engined swift because they KNOW, that most of the buyers are stupids who dont even know what engine it really is.most of the buyers dont care for anything at all other then resale value.
    that is the only reason why we are still getting 20 yrs old diesel engines in toyota corolla 2.0D!!!
    very true , but the point is we have pathetic fuels and other service measures thats why they are giving us same stuff to be successful in our market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    yup! got it! why not switch to mehran then? if thats what gives u peace of mind!
    Meharan is the most successful car of Pakistan and most hot selling too ..... People will consider Suzuki if they wont get approrpite service and qaulity stuff to move their cars . Swift is a very good addition in Suzuki and under my serious considertion as well. It is good time to buy it as major parts are japanese.

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    been driving a city 2010...i have to admit that it has disappointed me on almost all fronts.

    The biggest issue is the pathetic suspension. The engine is good only at high revs but sucks at low revs. You have to change ur driving style to a "always on the edge" one to avoid knocking in low gears...the seats are a definite pain in th a$$ on long routes...the cabin in noisy and lacks a sense of strength and confort...it does not have an insulation sheet installed on the inner side of the engine bay which allows free transfer of heat and noise...

    The after sales service of honda is SO SO BAD. They can't diagnose a thing and even try to put used parts in a friends car.

    Sirf honda k outwardly shashkay hain aur kuch nahi....but it looks good!

    On the other hand I feel that Toyota is a much better car in all aspects except that it has become a sign of "paindu" car and honda has become a car for the "yo-bachaz"

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    but i still luv my car

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    oh! now we ve got a problem!
    well, try 50-50 hi octane then. bad fuel is the reason why cars do knocking. and there aint any fault of the car in it.around the world,cars WILL do that if fuel quality is not upto the mark.so blame the real thing.
    lets move towards to resolve this issue , kindly let me know from where to get Hi-Octane in faisalabad ?

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