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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    @ahmad, bro try the presoak from turtle wax highly diluted for the interior............as a detailer trust me............you wont regret it.....if you want some cf for the door handles,tell me, i`ll source some textured sheet for you....rest here are pics of the lady in red an the my ride from the detailers meet.........enjoy !Honda City Fan Club -294006

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    @margallar
    i was planning to get a clear coat done on it after the silver paint.also planned to sand down the plastic properly before paint.
    but now im getting double minded n nervous after comments from fellow members on this thread.lets see what i finalize on....
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    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post
    @ahmad, bro try the presoak from turtle wax highly diluted for the interior............as a detailer trust me............you wont regret it.....if you want some cf for the door handles,tell me, i`ll source some textured sheet for you....rest here are pics of the lady in red an the my ride from the detailers meet.........enjoy !Honda City Fan Club - 294006

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    OMG... i shud jump into the detailing thread now
    okay usman bhai i ll get the presoak thingy from isb in a few days... as for the sheet, thanks a lot for offering but i dont really like the CF or any other sheet.its not my type.i ll get it repainted, professionally most probably, after reading all those comments!
    Over n out... off to detailing thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post
    @ahmad, bro try the presoak from turtle wax highly diluted for the interior............as a detailer trust me............you wont regret it.....if you want some cf for the door handles,tell me, i`ll source some textured sheet for you....rest here are pics of the lady in red an the my ride from the detailers meet.........enjoy !Honda City Fan Club - 294006

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    Beautiful rides... The shine is simply unbeatable. Both are looking awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shazi_00 View Post
    replied ur sms.
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    @Shazi_00 & Ahmadbila! Can I jump in too??? I am looking for 13'' tyres... Have been driving on ECO 201 for the past 2-years, yesterday one of the tyres got punctured (in fact a 'cut', I think some 'cat-eye' on the M2, Salt range area is to be blamed for that
    But honestly I was happy to see how well a 10-year old car reacted to a front flat tyre (at somewhat 'high speed'), the car remained in control.
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    I hate it when my car is really dirty!!! Have to go to school from tomorrow onwards and starting O levels after that will have very less time to look after the car . Only on weekends

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    @TM
    Bro dua kery deal finalized or kal mil jaya ...i still remember ur thread of mehran u went to northern areas ..but i think i also took help from u regarding steel cabinets of kitchen (if u remember).......anyhow gud to know that the thing i m getting iz good ..insALLAH i ll get it by tomorrow...

    @Ahmad
    bro thanx alot for ur help and the above cars with that wax was looking extra ordinary .......yar shining is just amazing ........and name of that wax is presoak from turtle wax ??
    This is used for outer shine na ???

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    Bro masALLAH extremely awesome looking picture of ur car..btw from where u bought this wax and cost ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shazi_00 View Post
    @Ahmad
    bro thanx alot for ur help and the above cars with that wax was looking extra ordinary .......yar shining is just amazing ........and name of that wax is presoak from turtle wax ??
    This is used for outer shine na ???

    @vague_one
    Bro masALLAH extremely awesome looking picture of ur car..btw from where u bought this wax and cost ?
    Let me answer this for you, Allah kay banday presoak is a cleaner, used for engine cleaning an seat cleaning in various levels of dilution......the Red Steermatic was treated with Mother`s Synwax, an the Grey Idsi is treated with Turtle Wax Platinum Wax.........JazakAllah for the acknowledgement. I bought it from SacaPlus in Lahore on Montgomery Road, price I recall was around Rs.700ish...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaan1 View Post
    I hate it when my car is really dirty!!! Have to go to school from tomorrow onwards and starting O levels after that will have very less time to look after the car . Only on weekends
    lol... learn to ignore things like i do
    for the past 2 years im not giving enough time to my car, as much as i used to give it before that.due to studies n being out of city most of the time.earlier, if i saw it dirty, my heart would sort of, sink... but now, it doesnt though i still miss the time i used to spend with it but its simple, i just dont have that much time now so how can i!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    lol... learn to ignore things like i do
    for the past 2 years im not giving enough time to my car, as much as i used to give it before that.due to studies n being out of city most of the time.earlier, if i saw it dirty, my heart would sort of, sink... but now, it doesnt though i still miss the time i used to spend with it but its simple, i just dont have that much time now so how can i!
    Absolutely right! Gave it alot of time in vocations and even in school days but now because of O' levels it will be very very difficult ab gari se zyada zaroori to straight a's ha na

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaan1 View Post
    Absolutely right! Gave it alot of time in vocations and even in school days but now because of O' levels it will be very very difficult ab gari se zyada zaroori to straight a's ha na
    Exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by TM View Post
    @Shazi_00 & Ahmadbila! Can I jump in too??? I am looking for 13'' tyres... Have been driving on ECO 201 for the past 2-years, yesterday one of the tyres got punctured (in fact a 'cut', I think some 'cat-eye' on the M2, Salt range area is to be blamed for that
    But honestly I was happy to see how well a 10-year old car reacted to a front flat tyre (at somewhat 'high speed'), the car remained in control.
    Sure u can jump in bro, plenty of water left in the pool so its safe

    which car do u have? and whats ur budget for tyres? u want new or used tyres? im sure there ll be a few used ones for sale in the "for sale" section of pakwheels... try ur luck there
    glad to know ur safe n car did well after the tyre puncture thing.its very dangerous if a tyre give up on motorway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Exactly
    however do need to get it serviced today.. Really dirty after the rain on 1st ... pata nahi kyoun yeh wala colour ganda hua wa bohat hiii ganda lagta hai aur phir drive karne ka dil bhi nahi chahta //// Driver bhi bhag gya hai need to get a new one to clean the car like wash with shampoo .. baqi detailing mein khudi karta hoon kyounke in ki ukal mein baat nahi aati..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaan1 View Post
    however do need to get it serviced today.. Really dirty after the rain on 1st ... pata nahi kyoun yeh wala colour ganda hua wa bohat hiii ganda lagta hai aur phir drive karne ka dil bhi nahi chahta //// Driver bhi bhag gya hai need to get a new one to clean the car like wash with shampoo .. baqi detailing mein khudi karta hoon kyounke in ki ukal mein baat nahi aati..
    somehow, i found some spare time today and washed my car also washed the engine, the carpet inside diggy (i ve tried to minimize the number of washes of this carpet as it gets screwed by washing, this was its 3rd wash in 5 years, and no, i didnt just let it sit there dirty, i used to take care, had an extra protecting sheet for it until some time ago)
    anyways, will be leaving for isb on a very hectic trip in the morning.will be back by the evening Inshallah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    somehow, i found some spare time today and washed my car also washed the engine, the carpet inside diggy (i ve tried to minimize the number of washes of this carpet as it gets screwed by washing, this was its 3rd wash in 5 years, and no, i didnt just let it sit there dirty, i used to take care, had an extra protecting sheet for it until some time ago)
    anyways, will be leaving for isb on a very hectic trip in the morning.will be back by the evening Inshallah.
    Ohh goood! Whereas i still reversed the car with the intention of washing it however my intentions were plundered when i heard that we had to go out somewhere in an hour . I had to clean the engine and apply Astonish Spray & Shine after washing off the shampoo when applying that no need to dry first.. It gives alot of shine and is just like a detailer so had very very less time to do all these things....... Will be getting it serviced tomorrow and PLEASE POST SOME PICTURES OF YOUR RIDE AFTER THE WASH never seen it in detail.

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    Havent washed car since last gtg..........iss kadar gandi bachai bani hui hai!!!!! Whats a worthy contender to fill my idsi spot ? Remember I`m looking for economy plus comfort.......most of all i`ll be ruining it on 17`` rims........so please no mehrans an coures an stuff!
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    AOA
    My car missing problem which usually happened around speed of 80KM on CNG has gone after cleaning sparkplug although they looked fine, may be they have lived their useful life.
    Now i face another problem, it started few days ago. The car jerk on 2nd gear, its not missing as u feel someone pushed the car, it happens sometime & not always.

    and yes anybody knows the price of iridium plug, i phone the 2s rwp, and they said 1600/plug.
    Someone told me that they are 1000rs.
    Any idea from where to buy. am planning to install 4 iridium & 4 normal(4tips plug)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post
    Havent washed car since last gtg..........iss kadar gandi bachai bani hui hai!!!!! Whats a worthy contender to fill my idsi spot ? Remember I`m looking for economy plus comfort.......most of all i`ll be ruining it on 17`` rims........so please no mehrans an coures an stuff!
    saying gud bye to the idsi?
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