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    Default Suggest an engine for toyota corolla E90

    Asalamu Alaikum everyone.

    Dear friends I need your help/guidance regarding engine swap. I have a toyota corolla e90. I want to swap its engine as the current engine is not good anymore. I also did some research about engines. Here are 4 engines in my point of view (come to know about these engines during research):

    3S-GTE 4th Gen
    2ZZ-GE VVTL-i
    4A-GE 20v Blacktop
    4A-GZE

    Now tell me which is most suitable for e90 from these 4 engines? OR tell me other engines which are suitable for e90.
    Thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khurram26 View Post
    Why don't you go for 1NZ FE ? I'm talking about the later models with electronic throttle. Similarly, newer 2NZ FE would also be a good choice.
    The reason why I'm recommending 1NZ is that it is light, makes good power and is fuel efficient. The difference between this 1.5 and a 1.8 isn't too great in terms of acceleration. Plus it is a new engine, you will be able to find one in good nick and then it is easy to wire up too considering that you can easily get one with uncut wiring.

    Even the 1.3 2NZ-FE could be a good choice given the fact that it makes much more power than your original 2E and is more fuel efficient. Parts are abundantly available and it will also not require any suspension or brake upgrade.

    I will not recommend going for any performance oriented engine because other that the 3S-GTE, no Toyota 1.8 produces serious racing power. They are all daily runners.
    The engines which I mentioned earlier in the beginning of this post are now changed.

    1NZFE is also good, but I want to go for 1.6 or 1.8. And I don't want electronic throttle as I heard that it is not good, I prefer throttle by wire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammad_asii View Post
    are u serious? 7AFE is under power than 4AFe..........
    check following links and decide...
    TOYOTA Engines
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/eng...cs-all-engines

    also detailed comparison between 4AFE & 7AEF...
    Toyota 4A-F and 7A-FE engines
    4AFE has a maximum of 113 hp.
    7AFE has a maximum of 115 hp.
    Toyota A engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Yes you are right, 7AFE have 2 hp more than 4AFE, but look at their size, 4AFE is 1.6 and 7AFE is 1.8 and their power output is almost same.

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    what is the difference in weight?

    maybe the powerbands are different
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    Quote Originally Posted by margallar View Post
    what is the difference in weight?

    maybe the powerbands are different
    Weight of what?

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    Btw 5aFE is 1.5 litre n Big lol for those who think 5afe is underpower 4afe n 5afe are almost same just 5-7 hp difference which is negligible

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    Quote Originally Posted by asad1 View Post
    Btw 5aFE is 1.5 litre n Big lol for those who think 5afe is underpower 4afe n 5afe are almost same just 5-7 hp difference which is negligible

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    Yes you are right, they are same having a little difference in hp.

    I want to ask you can 1ZZ or 3ZZ also swap instead of 5AFE?

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    I m using 5afe for 8 years never felt underpowered although its auto with CNG

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    Quote Originally Posted by asad1 View Post
    I m using 5afe for 8 years never felt underpowered although its auto with CNG

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    If a ask you to recommend me an engine other than 5AFE than what would you recommend?

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    People who have experience of the other stated engine will better recommend

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    why are you just comparing hp, the 7AFE has a boat load of torque at lower rpm - meaning it can pull very quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    why are you just comparing hp, the 7AFE has a boat load of torque at lower rpm - meaning it can pull very quick.
    Means 7AFE is more powerful than 4AFE, as it has more torque on lower rpm.

    7AFE or 1ZZFE? Which is more good in all terms like fuel economy, acceleration, top speed, maintenance, etc?

    4AFE, 7AFE, 1ZZFE, 1ZZFED, 3ZZFE..............Recommend me from these engines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haroon.virk View Post
    Means 7AFE is more powerful than 4AFE, as it has more torque on lower rpm.

    7AFE or 1ZZFE? Which is more good in all terms like fuel economy, acceleration, top speed, maintenance, etc?

    4AFE, 7AFE, 1ZZFE, 1ZZFED, 3ZZFE..............Recommend me from these engines?
    Go for 5afe it will be bolt on swap of your ee90. 1zz or 2zz need hell of modification and alteration so 1zz fe or 2zz fe is not recommended. 4age have wear n tear problem and it require high octane so its also not recommended. Go for simple 5afe or 7afe if you need power
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    In short he wants a complex engine jo bar bar tang karay har mechanic ko samjh main anay wala engine nhi chahiyay inhain

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    Quote Originally Posted by asad1 View Post
    In short he wants a complex engine jo bar bar tang karay har mechanic ko samjh main anay wala engine nhi chahiyay inhain

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    hahahahaha.................well said

    I am just clearing the confusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haroon.virk View Post
    I didn't check lahore bilal gunj market yet, but definitely also check there.
    The prices which I got from peshawar are:
    1ZZFE 1.8L = 100k
    3ZZFE 1.6L = 95k
    4AFE 1.6L = N/a
    5AFE 1.6L = 75 to 80k
    4AGE 16v Red top (3rd Gen) = 75k

    You can easily see the difference between prices.
    Both 5AFE and 7AFE are under power than 4AFE. In AFE series there is only one; that is 4AFE
    One of my relatives has 4AFE in his corolla e90 and they are very happy from its performance.
    Hmm you have no idea how much torque 7AFE got. I have used 5afe 4afe and 7afe. But 7afe is not only very quiet it has amazing torque and i am using it from last 2 years and still the torque it produces is great . 7A also gives very good milage better than 4afe. But 7afe most of them suffer from oil burning due to stuck oil ring.

    My bro had 4efte in his corolla use to give him 15kmpl+ and when required 135+HP.
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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    BTW you will not get 4afe easily in market because this engine was not used in Japan. All modern engines are hard to wire and a engine not properly wired is like a nightmare. When my 7afe had just one wire connection missing and no electrician could fixed it and it was in limp mode gave me around 4kmpl. In the end i had to dig in to fix it.

    Zulfiqar bhai whatever he says is 100% right take his advice.
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaqas1 View Post
    Hmm you have no idea how much torque 7AFE got. I have used 5afe 4afe and 7afe. But 7afe is not only very quiet it has amazing torque and i am using it from last 2 years and still the torque it produces is great . 7A also gives very good milage better than 4afe. But 7afe most of them suffer from oil burning due to stuck oil ring.

    My bro had 4efte in his corolla use to give him 15kmpl+ and when required 135+HP.
    Yes 7AFE have very good torque. What did you do to the oil burning problem?
    Is 4efte now available in market or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaqas1 View Post
    BTW you will not get 4afe easily in market because this engine was not used in Japan. All modern engines are hard to wire and a engine not properly wired is like a nightmare. When my 7afe had just one wire connection missing and no electrician could fixed it and it was in limp mode gave me around 4kmpl. In the end i had to dig in to fix it.

    Zulfiqar bhai whatever he says is 100% right take his advice.
    Yes it will not find very easily. I think this engine was used in Japan.
    Yes it is hard.........Par koi to ho ga islamabad, peshawar, etc mae jo modern engines ko wire karta ho....

    Zulfiqar bhai is saying that go for 4AFE or 5AFE as its easy to wire up. He is also saying that the ZZ engines fit with no problems as it uses the same mount placement but the radiator would need to be hand made as the later model radiators are side to side rather than yours which is top to bottom, the ZZ engines are not very hard to wire up but require "all" of it wired up otherwise it locks itself to 3000 rpm max

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    Quote Originally Posted by haroon.virk View Post
    Yes it will not find very easily. I think this engine was used in Japan.
    Yes it is hard.........Par koi to ho ga islamabad, peshawar, etc mae jo modern engines ko wire karta ho....

    Zulfiqar bhai is saying that go for 4AFE or 5AFE as its easy to wire up. He is also saying that the ZZ engines fit with no problems as it uses the same mount placement but the radiator would need to be hand made as the later model radiators are side to side rather than yours which is top to bottom, the ZZ engines are not very hard to wire up but require "all" of it wired up otherwise it locks itself to 3000 rpm max
    Well if u can wire the new series engine than nothing is better. They rev better give all around good torque and good mileage. Otherwise go for 5AFE or 4AFE. If u chose 7AFE than go for the coils on newer generation its more fun.
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haroon.virk View Post
    Yes 7AFE have very good torque. What did you do to the oil burning problem?
    Is 4efte now available in market or not?
    Opened it up cleaned the stuck valves now working great.
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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