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    Default 11th Gen Corolla (Hornet): An Unlucky Affair

    Introducing Corolla GLi 1.3 (Super ECT)
    Asalamoalikum respected PakWheel members and guests.
    Alhamdolillah, Allah has blessed me with this brand new car after I let
    Viper go to its next handler and keeper, after a very satisfying experience of a little over four years. With blessing from Allah (S.W) and friends like you, I hope to make this is a no-nonsense, extremely informative and enjoyable thread just like Viper. This cannot be possible without your support, appreciation, critique, guidance, sharing and participation. So hop in, like and subscribe.

    But, the driving experience has not been anything more than average. The only aspect in which this car stands out (at the moment in Pakistan) is its shape.

    Table of Contents
    1. Introduction and Background ------------------------------ Page 1
    2. Stark Naked Review (The Decision)---------------------- Page 1
    3. True Horror Story (On Fuel Consumption) -------------- Page 1
    4. Review (Exterior Styling, Build Quality)------------------- Page 2
    5. Aerodynamics Verification (Thanks @autophile) ------ Page 2
    6. Review (Interior Styling, Layout and Build Quality) --- Page 3
    7. Comparison Recap ------------------------------------------- Page 4
    8. Performance and Drive Quality ---------------------------- Page 4
    9. Final Thoughts and Wrap Up ------------------------------- Page 5
    10.Teaser Photos ------------------------------------------------- Page 5
    11. Fog Lamps (Options, Variety and Selection) ---------- Page 6
    12. Night Visibility Upgrade Philips CrystalVision -------- Page 7
    13. Decide Between White and Black Colours ------------ Page 7
    14. Stainless Scuff Plates (OEM Toyota) ------------------- Page 9
    15. Combo Utility / Multi Purpose Hook Dock ------------- Page 9
    16. Interior Photo Showing Some Changes --------------- Page 11
    17. Night Time Photography ----------------------------------- Page 11
    18. Fresh Update on Drive and Handling ------------------- Page 12
    19. Photography by @Spano's Galaxy Note 4 ------------ Page 12
    20. Steering Controls (Install Photos and Cost) ----------- Page 13
    21. GLi (Auto) Underpower Myth Busted -------------------- Page 13
    22. Hornet's Climb to Monal (Videos) ------------------------ Page 15
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    Quote Originally Posted by fouadbakht View Post
    And yes, with all my heart and integrity I will honestly tell you reasons for non-satisfaction. Do not expect any cover ups or sugar coating. Plain and simple truth. This will be in a review form and I wish more people read it and learn a lesson.


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    GLI 1.3 Auto is still a hot cake with a turn around time from the dealer ship of around 4 months.

    hope your car sells fast and quick with "OWN" money . No offense to any one this is expected brothers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuhaibafzal View Post
    Will you get delivery in 30 days? Congrats for new ride.


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    Thanks man.Toyota Sgd is 90 % optimistic that i will get the car before Eid .Lets hope so

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    Quote Originally Posted by mubeenshahid View Post
    Thanks man.Toyota Sgd is 90 % optimistic that i will get the car before Eid .Lets hope so

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    ALLAH PAK sehat tandrusti ata farmaye ..
    Ameen

    Well this was expected when you switch infact downgrade from Viper and get a GLi AT
    90 % of the ppl who dispose off their 8th gen civics have 2 main reasons
    Either they are tired of their manual tranny civics or they want to maintain their status since Reborn is an old car now
    9th gen Civic beats it in terms of comfort fuel avg and interior layout but still 8th gen is better than 9th gen in most aspects
    Same goes for Corolla vs 8th gen civic
    I think it would have been much better if you had searched for a clean 2012 VTi Oriel Prosmatec 8th gen civic since manual transmission was the main problem in your case
    But still , you have kept new corolla too and the car can fetch easily above control price the best thing about GLi
    You can get a better car now
    I know what you are missing
    Driving pleasure
    If you really need driving pleasure go for 8th gen civic again in auto transmission or try to get some thing imported now Honda Vezel if you have that budget because Local Honda City Corolla or 9th Gen Civic all are plain n boring if you have kept a legendary car like 8th gen civic in terms of pleasure and feel behind the wheel
    May ALLAH PAK bless you

    Sir I need that gear knob
    For how much can i get it
    Achi si price bata dein 25 percent depreciation k saath
    Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by nido747 View Post
    I have posted this before but posting again to help you in choosing your variant in Corolla.

    1.Altis 1.6 has alloys, nav ready infotainment system, Hi Grade fabric seats as mentioned on indus website (Please see),Extra two color Super White and Bronze Mica if you want to opt that and above all dual VVTI 1598cc bigger Engine. you can get after market alloys, infotainment system in the price range of 90k (125k-90k= 35k) but you cant replace 1.3 engine to 1.6 engine in 35k. Price difference between 1.3 Gli A/T and 1.6 Altis A/T is 125k.

    2.It has dual VVTI engine as compared to Single VVTI engine in GLI A/T. As coated by our brother @ausbii

    A. The engine on the 1.6 is not just bigger, it's newer and more efficient both in terms of fuel consumption and power output. NZ-FE(1.3)VVTI series vs ZR-FE(1.6)Dual VVTI.

    B. The transmission on both is 4 speed super ECT but it's not the same. The 1.6 has an Aisin Warner (one of the worlds top transmission manufacturer) A341E original japanese transmission. The 1.3 has a toyota U341e which to the best of my Knowledge is from Thailand. The A341E is much smoother and more reliable. Also to consider is that the u341e is designed for 1.5l engines, not 1.3. It has a first gear ratio almost 1.5 times that of the first in manual gli and a second gear ratio equal to what would be a 2.75 gear of the manual while the third is equal to the fourth on the manual. That is why the 1.3 gli AT is significantly slow off the mark as compared to the gli manual. AT is always slightly slower than manual but the difference is quite significant here. The same specs go to the advantage of the 1.6 as the more powerful engine utilizes the lager gear ratios for a more rapid off the mark acceleration and even slightly better fuel economy than the competitions slower 5 speed with a 100cc smaller engine.

    3.I do not believe that 1.3 Gli is an underpowered car . Many pakwheeler friends are satisfied with their power (you can see @fouadbakht bhai and @aliusman420 bhai thread . I didn't drive 1.3 Gli A/T 11 gen but i thing 1.6 drive will be more joyful as compared to 1.3 drive due to their gear ratio.

    This is my opinion, hope it will help you in buying your car.

    Please see the following post to get more details.
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/cor...61#post4814736
    almost all auto transmissions (talking about 3-5 speed ones) have longer gear ratios than their manual counter parts for same engines and cars. i.e. a car that red lines its 2nd gear at 80 kph, its auto version would do above 100 in 2nd gear.
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    ^^^ +1
    PREDATOR 11th Gen Corolla and RED MAMBA Reborn...
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    Dear Fellows,

    i know that i might be little late on this thread for posting the lightning improvement comparison on the new corolla however i am still posting it for your guidance.

    the picture below is of low beam on the new altis grande with the stock bulbs H11.


    11th Gen Corolla Hornet An Unlucky Affair -1589090

    the picture below is of same low beam altis grande with Philips Xtreme Vision H11.

    11th Gen Corolla Hornet An Unlucky Affair -1589091

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    Below mentioned picture is of the high beams on the stock bulbs.


    11th Gen Corolla Hornet An Unlucky Affair -1589096

    Below mentioned picture is of the high beam on philips Xtreme vision.

    11th Gen Corolla Hornet An Unlucky Affair -1589095

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    below mentioned pic is of the stock corolla low beam bulb

    11th gen corolla hornet an unlucky affair -1589117

    this is what it was replaced with

    11th gen corolla hornet an unlucky affair -1589108

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    below mentioned pic is of the stock corolla low beam bulb

    11th Gen Corolla Hornet An Unlucky Affair -1589120
    this is what it was replaced with

    11th Gen Corolla Hornet An Unlucky Affair -1589121

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    below mentioned pic is of stock high beam bulb


    11th Gen Corolla Hornet An Unlucky Affair -1589122

    And the high beam bulb was replaced with this

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    Come on bhai jaan shukar karay Allah ka.. why such a dramatic thread title it gives a feeling your car was stolen or something.

    Secondly civic owners will never fall in love with a corolla no matter what.
    RIP

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    @Thinking I have gone this road. But did it only with low beams because had hid in high beam.
    Few months later HID burned off and I replaced them with stock toyota bulbs.. few months later narvas burned off as well. And when you switch you see a placebo effect that its better but when you switch back you know... it was not.
    RIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertypoiu View Post
    Come on bhai jaan shukar karay Allah ka.. why such a dramatic thread title it gives a feeling your car was stolen or something.

    Secondly civic owners will never fall in love with a corolla no matter what.
    Sorry Sir
    But I dont agree
    I am a Civic lover myself but Corolla is a better choice for our roads and harsh conditions
    Both are equally good family sedans
    After keeping all these three 8th 9th gen civics and new Corolla
    I must say its an excellent family sedan and considering our harsh road , environment , weather and traffic conditions its the best choice for a daily driven family car ...
    Yes thrill factor and top notch quality lies in civic
    But that car always asks for plain smooth and ideal road conditions
    I love driving my 8th gen civic and it gives great driving pleasure but i only drive it within Defence ...
    Whenever i have to go to other areas i always go in Corolla
    And this decade old 2nz fe 1.3 liter so called under powered engine takes 10 to 15 mins lesser than civic 1.8 for reaching karachi university for example from phase 8 DHA
    Civic is fast no doubt about that but this corolla passes all broken roads of Gulshan and other areas with comfort and ease and at good avg speed
    Its the best daily driven family car for Pakistan
    And will always lead in sales because of this factor
    Yes but its difficult for a Civic Lover to survive without a Honda Civic our respected pw member @309
    Even after getting BMW 7 series in UK was missing his 8th gen civic badly lolz
    Just like fouad bhai said
    Civic is in his DNA
    PREDATOR 11th Gen Corolla and RED MAMBA Reborn...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirpk1 View Post
    Why are you worried just because the change of thread title and opinion of starter of thread after two months or so ... every one his own likes and dislikes so I suggest do not follow some one blindly .. I mean one should judge his belongings according to his own taste and needs ... aap apni gari aik baar chlaa to laen,ager iss kay baad bhe psnd na aye to forn sale kr dejiya ga, Corolla hay aram say sale ho jaye ge, pehlay hee keon fikr kr rhay haen... zingi maen kayee U turn aatay haen or kisi dosray banday kay feslay ko itna dil pr nhee lena chahyia ...abhi to is thread maen ptaa nhee or kon kon say turn anay haen, shayed kuch purani posts delete hon kuch edit hoon, purani batoon ke bjaye naiye baataen hon... aap tyyar rhaen or fikr na kraen ... and lastly I wish speedy recovery of Fauad sahib

    Yeah you are right bro, in sha Allah it will be great for me as i have always kept a corolla and it never gave me any problem so i hope for the best

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    I can understand why is he selling car

    Reason is Car is heavily under powered and to much tacy in interior terms like no good finishing or fell of a 2 million rupees car

    I have gone through this scenario I had corolla Gli 1.3 new shape after replacing my 2010 model and practically I liked my previous one

    I sold my new shape corolla because of poor driving feel and under powered

    Now shifted to Premio new shape which comes under almost same price tag with plus of 2lacs(car is well maintained ) and is much better in every aspect


    If you want to enjoy corolla than at least Altis varient (sadly has poor resale and over priced t00)


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    Quote Originally Posted by InNoCeNt_DeViL View Post
    Sorry Sir
    But I dont agree
    I am a Civic lover myself but Corolla is a better choice for our roads and harsh conditions
    Both are equally good family sedans
    After keeping all these three 8th 9th gen civics and new Corolla
    I must say its an excellent family sedan and considering our harsh road , environment , weather and traffic conditions its the best choice for a daily driven family car ...
    Yes thrill factor and top notch quality lies in civic
    But that car always asks for plain smooth and ideal road conditions
    I love driving my 8th gen civic and it gives great driving pleasure but i only drive it within Defence ...
    Whenever i have to go to other areas i always go in Corolla
    And this decade old 2nz fe 1.3 liter so called under powered engine takes 10 to 15 mins lesser than civic 1.8 for reaching karachi university for example from phase 8 DHA
    Civic is fast no doubt about that but this corolla passes all broken roads of Gulshan and other areas with comfort and ease and at good avg speed
    Its the best daily driven family car for Pakistan
    And will always lead in sales because of this factor
    Yes but its difficult for a Civic Lover to survive without a Honda Civic our respected pw member @309
    Even after getting BMW 7 series in UK was missing his 8th gen civic badly lolz
    Just like fouad bhai said
    Civic is in his DNA

    Bro I agree with you in every sense but plz consider his car is 1.3 Gli and your is 1.6 Altis (huge differece


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    Quote Originally Posted by AZEEMMAJEED View Post
    Bro I agree with you in every sense but plz consider his car is 1.3 Gli and your is 1.6 Altis (huge differece


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    I booked a Gli Automatic today ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by InNoCeNt_DeViL View Post
    Sorry Sir
    But I dont agree
    I am a Civic lover myself but Corolla is a better choice for our roads and harsh conditions
    Both are equally good family sedans
    After keeping all these three 8th 9th gen civics and new Corolla
    I must say its an excellent family sedan and considering our harsh road , environment , weather and traffic conditions its the best choice for a daily driven family car ...
    Yes thrill factor and top notch quality lies in civic
    But that car always asks for plain smooth and ideal road conditions
    I love driving my 8th gen civic and it gives great driving pleasure but i only drive it within Defence ...
    Whenever i have to go to other areas i always go in Corolla
    And this decade old 2nz fe 1.3 liter so called under powered engine takes 10 to 15 mins lesser than civic 1.8 for reaching karachi university for example from phase 8 DHA
    Civic is fast no doubt about that but this corolla passes all broken roads of Gulshan and other areas with comfort and ease and at good avg speed
    Its the best daily driven family car for Pakistan
    And will always lead in sales because of this factor
    Yes but its difficult for a Civic Lover to survive without a Honda Civic our respected pw member @309
    Even after getting BMW 7 series in UK was missing his 8th gen civic badly lolz
    Just like fouad bhai said
    Civic is in his DNA
    For a family sedan,Axio or Premio are much better than over priced Gli. Or you can always get a hatch for family.

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