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    Default Must read before buying new battery (UPS or Car)



    To prolong battery life and get maximum performance must follow these points.

    1. Never Use battery without initial charging.

    2. Never charge the battery soon after putting the electrolyte in it.

    3. Leave the battery at least 25 to 30 minutes after adding electrolyte than connect
    with charger which gives 10% ampere of battery capacity.

    4. Charge the battery till it reaches 15V and, replace the battery caps, look all cells are
    producing bubbles equally.

    5. Every battery have a manufacturing date printed on it........Purchase latest newly
    manufactured one.

    6. Make sure that before adding the electrolyte, battery was completely sealed and air tight.

    7. Now some companies offering already prepared electrolyte, prefer that one, rather
    then prepared by the electrician or battery vender.

    Any query regarding battery will be honestly entertained up to My knowledge Insha Allah






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    Must read before buying new battery UPS or Car -1381587

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishtiaq778 View Post
    Dear Tallah, What i have said in my thread, is what, AGS Technical service department says. All the points are in mine experience as well.......

    What points,i have mentioned in my post, are completely verified by Assistant manager,Technical services Arif Mehmood Sahib Atlas battery.........

    To full fill for your curiosity, i requested him to send me, the file of Battery Tutorial, an in next post is the response from him..........You can contact him as well for further confirmation of my mentioned points...
    Thanking you so much for sharing and for your courtesy, it?s not that I am trying to put you down but just dont want to believe in second hand information. I am surprised that AGS guys recommend charging the batteries to 15 Volts for the first time but I will try to dig into possible reason for this. You are right about 10% formula as that?s basically the same thing as AMP-HR rating/10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishtiaq778 View Post
    Must read before buying new battery UPS or Car -1381587
    Ishtiaq bro previously you had advised to add two 120 amp hour batteries for a 500w 12v UPS but battery guy discourages me by giving the reason that in a parralel set up if one of the batter thy weakens it harms the other tOo and I wanted to know how is charging made effeiciwnt by adding two small batteries instead of in large...
    Co here's my situation I face load shedding like every 2 hour outage after an hour of electricity on routine em running 3 fans 4 25w bulbs so after analyzing my situation kindly suggest which battery should I go for and won't these two small batteries a take more time to charge hence overloading the mains in summer wen voltage also fluctuates

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    Quote Originally Posted by talhawaleed View Post
    Thanking you so much for sharing and for your courtesy, it?s not that I am trying to put you down but just dont want to believe in second hand information. I am surprised that AGS guys recommend charging the batteries to 15 Volts for the first time but I will try to dig into possible reason for this. You are right about 10% formula as that?s basically the same thing as AMP-HR rating/10.
    You are cordially welcome Dear Tallah,Its my pleasure.........
    Its mine personal experience as well, at 14.2V is an ideal cut of charge to prolong battery life. 15V as an initial charge is quite normal for new battery. The killing factor for battery is , when it starts heating up.......... whether by overcharging( non stop charging) or by short cell........ your valuable input will be really appreciated...

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    Must read before buying new battery UPS or Car -1382401 Ishtiaq bro previously you had advised to add two 120 amp hour batteries for a 500w 12v UPS but battery guy discourages me by giving the reason that in a parallel set up if one of the batter thy weakens it harms the other ( HE IS RIGHT TO SAY THIS, BUT IF U USE SINGLE BATTERY, AND IT BECOMES WEAKEN YOU WILL SUFFERE 100% LOSS WHILE IF 1 BATTERY OF PAIR IS WEAKEN YOU WILL FACE 50% LOSS.) and I wanted to know how is charging made efficient by adding two small batteries instead of in large...( LOOK THE FIGURE I MENTIONED, U WILL GET BETTER UNDERSTANDING,
    Co here's my situation I face load shedding like every 2 hour outage after an hour of electricity on routine em running 3 fans 4 25w bulbs so after analyzing my situation kindly suggest which battery should I go for and won't these two small batteries a take more time to charge hence overloading the mains in summer wen voltage also fluctuates( FIGURE EXPLAIN YOUR BOTH CONFUSIONS)

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    @Ishtiaq778 Can you tell me about some good battery companies for deep cycle/UPS wet acid batteries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicDevil View Post
    @Ishtiaq778 Can you tell me about some good battery companies for deep cycle/UPS wet acid batteries?
    Best available in the market
    1. AGS
    2.Phoenix
    3. Excide or FB
    4. Volta and OSaka

    There are some maintenance free batteries available in the market, like NARADA, ROCKET, Luoch, LUDO. etc
    Best for our environment is Locally manufactured as mentioned above

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    Must read before buying new battery UPS or Car -1384065

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    Must read before buying new battery UPS or Car -1385904

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    Stupid guys here in Isb mostly don't do the initial charging. They would simply add electrolyte prepared by them (upto the level much higher than the maximum line). If someone inquires about charging, they say that keep the car running for atleast 15 mins and the battery will be charged.

    Same happened with me when I purchased AGS battery last year. Luckily, my last battery in charade lasted 3 years and still was going strong when I sold the car. The current battery, I haven't even added a single drop of water/electrolyte for last 1 year and never got any problem. (I do check the electrolyte level regularly, though).

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    The first startup charge is required - and it takes atleast 1 hour. If you dont then its already a downhill situation.
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    charging a lead antimony battery to 15V constantly will overheat the case and eventually cause shorting due to case melting.
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    is there any way i could increase the gravity of the battery.. secondly r dry batteries good for ups, wht about gel batteries ...
    people who use Highbeams.. once day would suffer too bigtime. People who drive slow on fast lanes, remember one day a vehicle carryin ur son, dad might get late to hospital coz people like u. underaged driving will land u in bigtime trouble one day or the other.. And the Blue indication light on ur speedometer denotes "High Beams"

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    Quote Originally Posted by takko View Post
    is there any way i could increase the gravity of the battery.. secondly r dry batteries good for ups, wht about gel batteries ...
    the specific gravity is of the electrolyte - you can add a bit stronger mixture to raise it. Dont use more than 1.270 SG mixture.
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    What are gel batteries...are they available here...?
    <..If everything seems under control, U r not going fast enough..>

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    yep they are - pricey as hell though
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    What to do if the battery starts gassing and never reaches the charge cutoff voltage?
    Can we make the acid mixture more concentrated or something like that? All the individual cells are working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by takko View Post
    is there any way i could increase the gravity of the battery.. secondly r dry batteries good for ups, wht about gel batteries ...
    First of All, sort out what is the reason of low specific gravity.
    1. What is the Age of battery???
    2. All the cells have same low level of specific gravity?
    3. How much low is The SG.

    AGM, MF,VRLA, are good batteries but not suitable for Pakistan,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicDevil View Post
    What to do if the battery starts gassing and never reaches the charge cutoff voltage?
    Can we make the acid mixture more concentrated or something like that? All the individual cells are working.
    First check the terminal volts and temperature of battery, if battery is being charged continuously but,battery terminal volts are less then 14V, than battery is faulty...............check all the cells are producing gas bubbles equally? I one Cell is silent or slowly producing bubbles than its short...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishtiaq778 View Post
    First check the terminal volts and temperature of battery, if battery is being charged continuously but,battery terminal volts are less then 14V, than battery is faulty...............check all the cells are producing gas bubbles equally? I one Cell is silent or slowly producing bubbles than its short...
    I know the battery is old. It gives acceptable backup time but voltage never exceeds 13.8-13.9 while charging. All cells are good.

    Can I fix it by changing the concentration of acid?

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