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    Default Completed 45 days, 7000+ kms - Camping, Biking & Soul Refreshing Sightseeing

    Assalam-o-Alikum to this exceptional community of riders here on Pakwheels.com


    BARE WITH ME THROUGH THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPHS as I'm quite bad at writing and narration. Though I have formatted the whole post in apparent headings, so that everyone can jump to their part of interest directly. But, I humbly request GURUs atleast, to go through whole stuff as I being un-experienced and rookie in the field, do need their guidance.

    PROLOGUE
    A little introduction of myself would be helpful for me and the PW community (which i'm sure is going to guide me in light of their experiences throughout this soul refreshing trip, from planning upto execution and in-transit phases).

    Natively from Muzaffarabad, Azad Kashmir. School life spent in Islamabad upto Matric. Collage life spent in Lahore. Then moved to Karachi in 2001 after joining Pakistan Navy (Aviation) and living here ever since, though I do visit Islamabad, Muzaffarabad and Lahore atleast once a year, but its just a routine exercise which hardly contain any adventures.

    Exploration is something in my blood, which got buried deep down while living a typical military, tech savvy & married family life, bla bla bla, (hopefully UPTILL NOW) and biking is my passion since teenage. Whenever I got a chance to combine these two passions i.e exploration and biking I did so in form of short trips, sometimes with family and occasionally alone. (although nothing as compared to what the PROs of this community have accomplished so far).

    STORY BEHIND THE IDEA

    Last week somehow my passion resurrected from ashes as a result of a little conversation with my wife, "Honey (that's my nickname) AMMI (my mother) ki tabiyat ub kaafi behtr ha, kuch plan karain kahin ghoomnay phirnay ka". (My Mother, yet recovering from serious illness, the illness that pushed our whole family to saturation limits during last 02 years). I thought, "Yes, our body, minds and souls need a major overhaul and we should do something to accomplish this, so as to prepare ourselves for the forthcoming adversities. As soon as I felt the heat from ember, I decided to fuel rather than smother it. Therefore, started to explore the web, Google Maps + Earth and Panoramio etc. Subsequently, the ember grew to a blaze, and I STARRED all the POIs on google map, for the yet pretty vague expedition i was thinking about (Believe me it's quite difficult to escape from routine family & married life's thousands of "IF & THENS", Our major concern yet is how to cater for in between RAMAZAN month) and shared my insensible plan with my wife. It was quite shocking for me when she frowned for a second in bafflement and said, "Let's do it by God, Lets get mad".

    MISUNDERSTANDING

    Well, when I first thought of the trip (plz be patient, I will elaborate it in ensuing paragraphs), it was my misunderstanding that I am planning to do something like freakingly crazy (whatsoever) of my life, so I shared my thoughts regarding the tour with my Brother in Law [/B] @abdulkarim[/B] (one of my best friends) who is kinda adventurer himself, (contrary to my expectation) he encouraged me, even agreed to try to join me and suggested to visit the Pakwheels forums for guidelines.

    PAKWHEELs Here I am with my Jaws-Dropped, Eyes Popped

    I instantly jumped to the forums (30 April 2015 at about 9pm) and viola.....since the moment I have gone thru about 30 or so threads in biking section from very first post to last (nonstop with hardly 4 hour sleep in two days straight). As much as I am reading, and seeing pictorial experiences shared by PW adventurers, the stronger is my enthusiasm getting. By now the blaze has out-grown to HELL FIRE, means we are going to pull it off like "Now or Never", by any means and at any cost.

    THE EXPEDITION PLAN - 40+ DAYS, 7000+ KMS - EXTREME HIKING. CAMPING, BIKING & SOUL REFRESHING SIGHTSEEING

    THE EXPEDITION THAT's GOING TO PUSH OUR PHYSICAL AND MENTAL STRENGTH, OUR WILL POWERS OUR CONSISTENCY & DETERMINATION TO ACUTE LIMITS.

    "An Adventure does not justify the definition of Adventure, until it shoves you beyond your limits" - Hammad Mustafa :-D (just came into my mind while convincing a cousin to join me for this trip, as he was bringing up thousands of "IF and Buts")

    Enough of boredom for u guys. It's time to share my tour plan with a request for all the guidance, suggestions, corrections, criticism, appreciation, buck ups and advices, from gurus of adventures and exploration here at PWs, which is the major reason to write everything in such pain-staking details:

    Participants (so far)

    a.Myself - Age 31 years (Smoking since last 15 years has badly affected my fitness, so consider me 50 years old.....lolllz)
    Starting point of tour : Karachi on GS150
    Biking Experience:
    oKalaam Festival 2012 from Islamabad to Kalaam on Yamaha Vmax 1200 with my Brother in Law and CarCraft members from Islamabad, (me, my Brother in Law and couple of other guys, couldn't make it upto Kalaam and returned from Bahrain - quite long story, will tell u guys any other time).
    oRawalpindi to Muzzaffarabad via Muree road & Motorway, Bhurban & Aliot both sides, plenty of time on CD70, GS150, CG125, China made 70s.
    oMuzzafarabad to Neelum Valley upto Lawat and back in one day round trip on CG125
    oMuzzafarabad to Thandiani (Via Raara, Pattan Kalan) to Abbotabad to Mansehra to Muzzafarabad round trip in one day on CG125.
    oPlenty of biking to surrounding villages of Muzaffarabad District, which include some 4x4 only tracks.

    b.Shoaib Sadiq - Age 25 years (First Cousin)
    Starting point : Karachi or Islamabad on GS150 or CG100 respectively.
    Biking Experience:
    oA few short biking trips to surrounding villages of Muzaffarabad District, which include some 4x4 only tracks and ZalZal lake in Chakar on CG125.
    oAlready visited the Naran Valley and most of Kashmir except (Neelum Valley) in quite detail, though not on Bike.

    c.Aamir Lodhi - 29 years (Friend)
    Starting point: Karachi or Rawalpindi on GS150 or CG100
    Biking Experience:
    oKarachi to Lahore trip on CD70
    oNo mountain terrain biking experience at all.

    d. @abdulkarim - 32 years (Friend & Bro in Law)
    Starting point : Islamabad, GS150
    oKalaam festival tour 2012 on Kawasaki Z10R.
    oPlenty of tours to Muree, Kallar Kahar, Jehlum, Bahawalpur, Faisalabad on GXR1000 and Z10R ( there must be a lot more, but these are the few ones I know about).

    And at last, with extremely high spirits, courage and practical support by being desperate to ride throughout with me, to make this trip, the lifetime memorable event, not only for me but for our coming generations too.
    e.My Wife - Age 29 years (Mother of our two heavenly kids).

    Starting point: Karachi or Lahore
    Bike Riding Experience:
    oShe rode with me to certain villages of Muzzafarabad District plenty of times, which include some rough mountain terrains and to Muree surrounding areas.

    ITINERARY

    First Leg / Tentatively starting from 1st June 15.
    Karachi to Sukkhar (666 Kms) Via
    Haleji Lake to
    Keenjhar Lake to
    Manchar Lake to
    Talti Lake to
    Sehwan Shrif to
    Dadu to Moenjodaro to Sukkhar(Night stay here).

    2nd Leg / 2nd - 3rd June 15
    Sukkhar to Lahore (780 kms)

    Night stay somewhere in between or 02 Nights at Lahore (if we could make it to Lahore from Sukkhar in one long-hauled ride).

    From Lahore an old friend TAYYAB BASHIR is joining us (on his Vitz) with Family for our 3rd and 4th Legs only. My kids would also be with me from here onwards.

    3rd Leg / 04 or 05 June 15.

    Lahore to Muzzaffarabad (410 Kms) Via
    GT Road to
    Muree Motorway to
    Bhurban to Muzaffarabad.

    with 6hrs or night stay at Rawalpindi.
    (From here @abdulkarim will join us on his GS150).

    4th Leg - Muzaffarabad - Taobat - Muzaffarabad (07 June to 12 June). (410 Kms)

    07 June - Muzaffarabad - Jagarn Resorts - Kutton Resorts (82.5 Kms) (Night stay here).
    08 June - Kutton to Kel - Arrang Kel - (80.4 Km) (Night stay here).
    09 June - Kel to Taobat - (Noon) (41.2 Kms) (02 Nights stay here).
    11 June - Taobat to Muzaffarabad - (205 Kms) (Night stay here).

    After 4th Leg one night rest at Muzaffarabad. Will be Saying goodbye to Lahori Jigrot Tayyab Bashir for his journey back to Lahore. I can't insist him to go on further Legs with me as he don't drive Bikes and from Naran onwards his full family loaded automatic vitz cannot keep up with the tough terrain. Moreover, he has already visited Naran couple of times with his friends.

    5th Leg - From 13 June (137Km) (3 to 5 days at Naraan-Kaghan Valley depending upon how soon we cover all the lakes)

    This leg is going to be the toughest one as we have to hike for almost every lake visit, so will try our best to clear from Naran prior to starting of RAMAZAN. Please Guide me with such perfect plan so that i may complete this leg and visit all the lakes in shortest possible time.

    Muzaffarabad to Naran to Jalkhad (197 Kms) Via
    Garhi Habibullah to
    Balakot to
    Payee Lake to
    Shogran to
    Kaghan to
    Naran to
    Saif ul Malook to
    Jalkhad to
    Lalusar Lake
    13 or 14 June - Saiful Malook and Ansoo Lakes.
    14-15 or 15-16 June - Dudipatsar Lake, Sat Siri Mala Lakes, Yasmin Lake, Lalazar Lake.
    16 or 17 June - Nooritop Lake, Lalusar lake (and leave for Gilgit - Baltistan the same day - if possible)

    6th Leg - Lalusar Lake to Gilgit via Deosai, Skardu & Gilgit - (601 Kms approx) (16-22 June 15)

    I am dividing this leg in small sections, each separated with night stays and with minimum distance travels per day i.e at much slower rate so that we don't get fatigued in an effort to be able to "Fast" while travelling, when Ramazan starts. (This is going to be a true challenge that we travel and fast simultaneously. It cannot be ruled out that we might have to skip certain 'Rozay' (May Allah forgive us, though we will exercise Qaza Rozay for skipped ones after Eid, Insha'Allah")

    Section - 1(178 Kms) Lalusar Lake to Raikot - (on 16 or 17 June) -
    (Night stay here).
    Section - 2(Fairy Meadows to Raikot to Rama Lake).
    (Night stay here).
    Section - 3(82 Kms) Rama Lake to Sehosar Lake and Deosai Planes - (on 17 or 18 June)
    01 Nights stay here.
    Section - 4(67.4 Km) Deosai Planes to Satpara Lake to Skardu. (on 19 or 20 June)
    (Night Stay Skardu)
    Section - 5(87 kms) Skardu to Shigar Fort to Shangrilla Resorts. on (20 or 21 June)
    (Night stay here)
    Section - 6(186 Kms) Shangrilla to Gilgit, on (21 or 22 June) - (Night stay here)

    7th Leg - Gilgit to Kunjraab Pass to Gilgit - (22 or 23 June to 27 or 28 June)

    Now this is the leg for which i need real guidance from PakWheelers, as this route contains about 20 or so places to visit. I want to cover each and every place in 4-6 days. Please provide me with detailed itinerary i.e where to visit and when, date wise (with suggestions for night stays, preferably camping).

    8th Leg - Gilgit to Shandur via Phundar Lake (203 Kms) / 28 or 29 June (Night Stay at Shandur)

    9th Leg - Shandur to Kalaash Valley (197 Kms) / 29 or 30 June (Night Stay at Kalaash)

    10th Leg - Kalaash to Kalaam - Mahodand Lake (274 Kms) - 30 June or 1st July DEDICATED TO @Spasha sir.

    Well for this leg we might skip ROZA. coz its going to be the toughest one as explained by @Spasha sir.[/I]. We will try to reach Mahodand Lake straight and night stay there, if couldn't, will stay for night at on the way rest house or Kalaam.

    11th Leg - Mahodand Lake to Muzaffarabad via Khawarzkhela - Besham City - Mansehra (357 Kms) 1st or 2nd July

    AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHhhhhh..........Finally I'm gonna see my Kids after 20 or so days and stretch my legs for 02 days, While our Bikes will be going through a major servicing and tuning procedure.

    A short trip to ZALZAL LAKE before leaving on Back to Karachi journey.

    Return Journey to Karachi

    12th Leg - Muzzafarabad to Rawalpindi - (253 Kms) 5th or 6th July Via

    Muzaffarabad to Thandiani
    Thandiani to Abbotabad
    Abbotabad to Terbela dam
    Terbela dam to Khanpur Dam
    Khanpur Dam to Rawalpindi (via Margala Hills Road, Sadhu ka Bagh) - Night stay at Rawalpindi

    13th Leg - Rawalpindi to Banjosa Lake to Toli Pir (Rawalakot) to Mangla Dam (Mirpur) - (297 Kms) - 6th or 7th July
    (Night stay at Mirpur)

    14th Leg - Mirpur to Kallar Kahar Lake to Khabikki Lake to Uchli Lake to Namal Lake to Chashma - (357 Kms) - 7th or 8th July
    (Night Stay at Chashma)

    15th Leg - Chashma to Karachi (1167Kms) 8th or 9th July (with stopovers in between as and when required)

    I have to reach Karachi on 10th July by all means as i have to Join my duty on 11th July.

    I am enlisting the Change Log for the plan in post #16, in light of the inputs from the PW community and my ongoing further research for the tour.
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    From here we had two options to reach our village, either get back to Chakar and take the right road towards Rangla which is the last and top point on the road of our village, (left road from Chakar took us to Sudhan Gali) or the longer route, i.e. move on to the same Sudhan Gali road towards Bagh City and from there to Kohala, Chattar Class then to our Village.
    "An Adventure does not justify the definition of Adventure, until it shoves you beyond your limits"

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    We took the second option as we had plenty of time. Left from Sudhan Gali at about 1445hrs. Again road was under construction at many points, but where completed it was carpeted.

    Reached Bagh City at about 1615hrs, i.e. 1 and half hour from Sudhan Gali. I am quite slow driver specially when with family. Infact it takes about 45 to 50 min from Sudhan Gali to Bagh City.

    From Bagh we took yet again carpeted Bagh Highway towards Kohala. This road also contains thick pine forest between Arja and DheerKot. We stopped somewhere before Dheerkot to capture and enjoy the beauty.
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    Reached Dheerkot at about 1730hrs. Bought my wife's and mine favorite Desi Donuts. From here we again changed our route and took Dheerkot-Rangla Road instead of Kohala route.

    This road was in better shape than other local roads we took earlier. Reached Rangla at about 1845hrs.
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    From Rangla its the road that goes directly to our village Bugna, but I had never been to this point before. As sunlight goes early in mountain areas we never stopped here and moved on keeping in mind the advantage of sunlight, with Just 15 or so KMs left upto our home.
    "An Adventure does not justify the definition of Adventure, until it shoves you beyond your limits"

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    I must say this section was the most beautiful in our so far today's journey with road passing through very thick forest of pine and Deodar upto Danna. In low light it had very serene effect. Road was bit patchy at some points.

    Near Sehoter we had little hiccup, that one of the saddle bag from my bike broke and dropped,so we had to tie it up on empty carrier on the back. My wife held the other one for rest of 7kms of journey left.

    We reached home at about 1930hrs with very little day light was left yet.

    For my son Ammar it was first experience of such long ride (about 170kms), Although he enjoyed it a lot but caught fever due to tiredness and rapid weather and elevation changes (Muzaffarabad about 2000ft, Sudhan Gali 6500ft, Bagh 2100ft, Dheerkot 3300ft, Rangla 7250ft and our Village 3000ft- approx values)

    Overall it was great experience.
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    Hammad bhai
    Pls tell me something about your tent
    1)Where you got it, shop/person contant no.
    2)Price
    3)Tent Water proofing quality in normal nights, during rain and after the rain.
    4) comfort

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    @shahidgujjar. Dear I bought it from karachi tents mkt at burns road. 2500 rupee. Best in this price. Wayer proof and weather shield. We encountered rain at Siri-Pae in night while camping in these tents
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    Hammad bhai
    can you give me its mobile no where you buy tent pls
    and also pls share some tent picture inner and other when it in action.

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    Sure pm me ur whatsap contact
    "An Adventure does not justify the definition of Adventure, until it shoves you beyond your limits"

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammad.mustafa View Post
    Noted and Edited accordingly. That was all my experience Though, nothing political, neither I have to do anything with politics. Please go through my first post, will get the reason, me being non-political. Moreover, I do have the right for pointing out the good as well as the bad experiences I am facing throughout my travel, in my own thread, either due to people or governance in areas Im going through. Some will agree with me some will not.
    A.O.A. YES YOU ARE RIGHT, EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO POINT OUT GOOD/BAD THING IN ANY PLACE/s FOR INFORMATION OF THE UPCOMING PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN, SO I THINK THE IS VERY UNREASONABLE TO COMMENT ON NON-POLITICAL ISSUES FROM WAK786 ON AN INFORMATIVE MATERIAL WHICH JUST POSTED FOR AWARENESS ONLY, SO NO HARD FEELINGS. KEEP ITS UP WE ALL ARE ENJOYING YOUR THREADS AND COMMENTS BUT PICTURES/BRIEF COMMENTS ARE MISSING .
    WITH BEST REGARDS/A.H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hameed777 View Post
    A.O.A. YES YOU ARE RIGHT, EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO POINT OUT GOOD/BAD THING IN ANY PLACE/s FOR INFORMATION OF THE UPCOMING PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN, SO I THINK THE IS VERY UNREASONABLE TO COMMENT ON NON-POLITICAL ISSUES FROM WAK786 ON AN INFORMATIVE MATERIAL WHICH JUST POSTED FOR AWARENESS ONLY, SO NO HARD FEELINGS. KEEP ITS UP WE ALL ARE ENJOYING YOUR THREADS AND COMMENTS BUT PICTURES/BRIEF COMMENTS ARE MISSING .
    WITH BEST REGARDS/A.H.
    Thanx for understanding bro. I just reached back Karachi after completing my trip on 16 July. Quite packed that's y couldn't update the thread. Organizing my pictorial data for now. Will post the details of further legs soon Insha'Allah.
    "An Adventure does not justify the definition of Adventure, until it shoves you beyond your limits"

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammad.mustafa View Post
    Thanx for understanding bro. I just reached back Karachi after completing my trip on 16 July. Quite packed that's y couldn't update the thread. Organizing my pictorial data for now. Will post the details of further legs soon Insha'Allah.


    Brother waiting for your complete tour pics and narration

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    very nice thread! keep up the good work
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    Extreme Adventure. Nice

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    بہت لمبا سفر طے کیا ہے۔ لیکن کہتے ہیں نا کہ شوق کا کوئی مول نہیں ہے۔ یہ شوق ہی ہے جو ایک بندے کو کراچی سےبائیک کے تھکا دینے والے سفر کے باوجود گلگت بلتستان کو اونچائیوں میں پہیچا دیتا ہے۔ ویلڈن جوان۔

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    I am extremely sorry that i was unable to complete this thread of my last years's adventure. Here are some of the reasons that prevented me to do so. I do feel it a responsibility that I was unable to fulfill towards the traveling community.

    First of all, i am not a good narrator and so far i was unable to give proper words to my heavenly experience of such a long journey and the first one too.

    Secondly I was unable to sort out and select right media out of huge collection of videos and pictures from the whole trip. Even to date i haven't seen all the videos myself.

    Moreover, I was bit set back due to some negative responses I faced for my posts regarding the ill experience of Naran-Kaghan Leg.

    After this long toour i did travel a lot in sindh and balochistan during rest of the year and in 2016 but was never able to share the thrills of those excursions with this community, sorry again.

    However, now from 3rd day of Eid ul Fitar 2016 i am leaving again for a mega tour of all corners of Pakistan for 50 days. I will try to that journey with you once its complete, Leg wise in separate threads or I dont know how yet.......:-D

    for now here is the link to the Event: https://web.facebook.com/events/542320312620161/

    Thanx for understanding.
    "An Adventure does not justify the definition of Adventure, until it shoves you beyond your limits"

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    @hammad.mustafa dear brother, dont bother about the negative response . plz share you experience for the adventure lovers. share the details of your new voyage....

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