Honda Pakistan on survey to launch Brio-Jazz & City Sport

[Skt_Z4]

Atlas walon ko koi kahe k ye survey Pakwheels pr krwayen phr dekhain in ko majboran krni pr jayen gi launch

VERYY TRUUE Waqas Bhai!! +1 The Best ,But It Can be Said the One & Only Place to Coduct Automobile Survey!

[king]

The City in the pic, was exhibited at Car Expo in Lahore & it is just a modified city.
At expo they said it is just 4 publicity nothing more than that... so calm down guys
As far as brio n jazz are concerned, these wud b a gr8 addition throwing suzuki out of the scene but it all depends on prices offered.

Honda is making surveys to introduce hatch back in pakistan sine long but still they haven't ended up with this.

So there is a very remote chance for hatch back within the time span of 1.5 years as they are already facing production problems with their city n civic.

[Skt_Z4]

The City Sports is Damn HOTT!! But i think Its Gonna be Verry Expensive!! But Still it will be A great Launch by HONDA as it is Really A Sports car not Just Adding Some Add on Bumpers or Rims Change But it has Sports: Breaks, Engine Intake & Projector Lamps. For TEASER:

[moizhusain]

Memo to Honda:

Please launch the Brio. I would sell my Swift and buy it instantly.

Thanks

[wasif111]

i will buy brio any time

[Vajih102]

Thank you for sharing these pictures with us Blade. You've surely put fire in everyone!

[ahmad_yar]

jazz is one of very famous car in thailand among young people
it should launch here in pakistan and sure it will eat swift and used vitz market share

[nasir007]

They should launch...anything and everything can be sold here

[Exubery]

I am sure Honda will also have a long, hard look at what happened to Santro, Cherry QQ, Chevorlet and Spark.

Brio seems interesting but may be not at 1.2L. Plus its physical (length and width) dimensions are lower than Cultus. The real question they will be asking is:
- What is the market size of this category of cars? (use historical data for similar cars, say swift)
- What percentage of that market will we be able to capture? what does that translate into in terms of numbers?
- Are we justified to set up an assembly line for this number of cars? What will it do the price when we amortized that cost of set-up on these number of cars?

Plus a lot more questions.

What, in my opinion, will make for a good model is a car comparable to Cultus. Relatively larger in dimensions but smaller in engine size, that also works great with CNG and at a comparable price. Only then can you hope to capture (your handsome share of) the market from Alto, Cultus and Swift combined.

My $0.02

[ammarspk]

I am sure Honda will also have a long, hard look at what happened to Santro, Cherry QQ, Chevorlet and Spark.

Brio seems interesting but may be not at 1.2L. Plus its physical (length and width) dimensions are lower than Cultus. The real question they will be asking is:
- What is the market size of this category of cars? (use historical data for similar cars, say swift)
- What percentage of that market will we be able to capture? what does that translate into in terms of numbers?
- Are we justified to set up an assembly line for this number of cars? What will it do the price when we amortized that cost of set-up on these number of cars?

Plus a lot more questions.

What, in my opinion, will make for a good model is a car comparable to Cultus. Relatively larger in dimensions but smaller in engine size, that also works great with CNG and at a comparable price. Only then can you hope to capture (your handsome share of) the market from Alto, Cultus and Swift combined.

My $0.02

A very good analysis indeed. Furthermore, majority of us at this moment of time will be thinking of getting a cheaper/fuel efficient vehicle rather than 1.3 vehicles as CNG import is banned and factory fitted CNG will not be available.
So majority will be having either a 2nd hand CNG vehicle or very petrol efficient vehicle like a mehran EFI or Alto EFI in times of fuel being too expensive.

Just for the information Brio is a 1.2 L car rather than a 1.0 L and it has less space as compared to cultus so it will be very difficult for Honda to launch here in Pakistan.

As far as JAZZ is concerned, it is a sibling of Honda city and will be expensive as compared to swift (Classic Case: Coure (850 cc)/Alto (1000 cc) price comparison)

[saintdarko]

Well keep dreaming for jazz in 1million.it will be for sure like 1.2.And brio is not a competitor of swift in any way.Brio should not be more than 8 lakhs if want to be success

I didn't compare Brio with swift, in fact I was talking about small car segment on the whole that it will give wider choice for consumers to buy from, not just the Suzuki.

As far as their prices are concerned well the reason why they are expensive in Thailand or Malaysia is due to the equipment they give in those cars there, have a look at them ! Once you remove those items it will cost around 1 million. take out srs, all wheel disc brakes, ebd, vsa etc and see how their prices will be controlled. Same is the case with city & civic models, many items are missing in base model & even the top of the line model lol and beacuse of this its relatively not that expensive as compared to South Asian countries.

[saintdarko]

All of those who are talking about CNG, to give you a heads up CNG time will be over in no time. Govt will price it close to petrol or even equal to it in the coming year or so.

in my view CNG is just a short term thing, Hybrid or hydrogen based engines are the future or LPG.

[2126]

Brio sould come with 1000CC under price tag of 10 Lakh, it will be good option for those who buy Alto coure etc, I thing Honda should bring this and earn money, but we have cartel in pakistan these companies work together with each others they dont compete against each others

[nickatnite]

I am sure Honda will also have a long, hard look at what happened to Santro, Cherry QQ, Chevorlet and Spark.

Brio seems interesting but may be not at 1.2L. Plus its physical (length and width) dimensions are lower than Cultus. The real question they will be asking is:
- What is the market size of this category of cars? (use historical data for similar cars, say swift)
- What percentage of that market will we be able to capture? what does that translate into in terms of numbers?
- Are we justified to set up an assembly line for this number of cars? What will it do the price when we amortized that cost of set-up on these number of cars?

Plus a lot more questions.

What, in my opinion, will make for a good model is a car comparable to Cultus. Relatively larger in dimensions but smaller in engine size, that also works great with CNG and at a comparable price. Only then can you hope to capture (your handsome share of) the market from Alto, Cultus and Swift combined.

My $0.02

Very good analysis. Atlas Motor is overreaching , IMO , though there's nothing wrong with a survey and scoping out possibilities., especially since the possible Indo-Pak trade ease-off looms.All the cars displayed are also made in India in addition to Thailand and Japan.

I came across this pair of Brios at lunch time today. Price makes all the difference.

[cracked]

city sports has some real poor outlooks,i mean it looks like some local MAADIFIED car...color combo..*THUMBS DOWN!
the should launch more cars though cuz they are only offering city and civic,civic being way out of reach for most people and city people dont prefer over corolla due to resale mentality... so i guess they should come up with cars with engines less than 1.0 or equal so they can compete..i would love to see some honda car with 800 cc engine so we dont have to deal with scrap we call mehran... there should be just end to that excuse of a car!

[mubeenshahid]

city sports has some real poor outlooks,i mean it looks like some local MAADIFIED car...color combo..*THUMBS DOWN!
the should launch more cars though cuz they are only offering city and civic,civic being way out of reach for most people and city people dont prefer over corolla due to resale mentality... so i guess they should come up with cars with engines less than 1.0 or equal so they can compete..i would love to see some honda car with 800 cc engine so we dont have to deal with scrap we call mehran... there should be just end to that excuse of a car!

+1 city sports looking cheap or say riced up

[saintdarko]

Honda can easily take some chunk off Suzuki's market share provided they build a plant here for small cars.

The problem is the fact Honda Atlas group & Honda Japan are not willing to invest few millions on an assembly plant for such small cars in near future.

As for engine thing, Brio can be given in 1L & Jazz in 1.3L. How i say this, well city is available in 1.3L, whereas in other countries its in 1.5L, so there is no fuss regarding the engine type for these models. This will surely cut down the cost for both the models plus take out some equipment then it can be even more ideally priced for consumers !

PROBLEM IS NEW INVESTMENT, NOTHING ELSE

[nickatnite]

Honda can easily take some chunk off Suzuki's market share provided they build a plant here for small cars.

The problem is the fact Honda Atlas group & Honda Japan are not willing to invest few millions on an assembly plant for such small cars in near future.

As for engine thing, Brio can be given in 1L & Jazz in 1.3L. How i say this, well city is available in 1.3L, whereas in other countries its in 1.5L, so there is no fuss regarding the engine type for these models. This will surely cut down the cost for both the models plus take out some equipment then it can be even more ideally priced for consumers !

PROBLEM IS NEW INVESTMENT, NOTHING ELSE

I agree. If it isn't made locally then there's really no point.

Meanwhile, almost every public space i crawl into in Chennai has a Brio or two in it. :o

[mehran]

I agree 100% with Exubery! Sensibly worded comments. Most of the other Pakwheelers are just drooling over the cars without thinking realistically.

Kids, there will be no CNG and cars will not be priced below 1 million. Even Brio will be 1 million or above if Honda plans to maintain its quality standards. And I think Honda does not have a 1.0L engine in its inventory. Unless it takes it out form the Honda Insight or some other unknown model which I bet it won't just for the Pakistani market.

If the Jazz is a success in Thailand thats because the Thai economy has created a large middle class of people who can afford the Jazz. Here someone with enough money would prefer a City sedan than a Jazz. I know I would.

So it would be wise to be ready for nothing. I am not a pessimist but thinking realistically

[malikahmadjunaid]

:mad::mad::mad::mad:GET A BLOODY LIFE "HONDA":mad::mad:***Holes first concentrate on providing already booked cars and also concentrate on quality of vehicles rather than quantity of vehicles..:mad: