10th Generation Civic Owners/ FanClub Discussion Thread

[Thinking]

Guys, best to stick with 5w-30 in R18. i have used it in last 3 gens of civic and works flawlessly without any issues. one of my cars was 300K driven reborn and it would run perfectly fine on 5w-30 Total 9000 oil.

Recently i have used 0w-20 in R18 and car felt a bit lighter. milage more or less remained same.

however from a reference of using 0w-30 in another car, i switched to 0w-30 in R18 as well. i would say its the best combination. better fuel economy and lighter feel of the car. however its an expensive oil.

rule of thumb with civics is simple, stick with 5w-30 fully synthetic with 5K KM change interval and they will work perfectly fine.

[ifadey]

You can see significant fuel economy benefit of 0W-20 in short trips or during winters.
Short trips are usually defined by manufacturers as
8km or less in summer
16km or less in winter

[mgalaxy3]

You are easily losing 3k to 4k km on oil change interval as fully synthetic oils are great for 8000 km to 9000 km under extreme conditions. MORE on light usage like highway/normal city driving.

Been doing 0w20 change at 9000km going perfectly fine.

Same with 5w30 when I was using it.

Just ensure genuine OEM oil filter.

[Thinking]

car manual say 5K kms. i like to stick with 5K interval as a safe limit.

[javalogix]

No offense but I would rather trust the company manual than a random person on the internet. No need to experiment if 0W20 was a better grade for R18 engine, engineers would have put it in the manual.

[mgalaxy3]

@javalogix you definitely should trust the company. They are saying 20 weight oil is ideal since the car was made. Why don't you yourself look it up?

Here is the 2008 owner's manual: https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/acv080/acv0808om.pdf

Here is 2010 owner manual using R18: https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/OM/NA1010/NA1010OM.PDF (both using r18, non-Si version).

Civic X/2016+ Malaysian manual: https://www.honda.com.my/manuals/CIVIC%202016-Current.pdf

If you don't trust Honda itself, why not hear from people pouring in w20 oil since ages? https://www.8thcivic.com/threads/0w-20-in-the-r18.653919/

I thought being on a car enthusiast forum means NOT to blindly follow dealership.
Their objective is to generate profit, they dont even let you run 70% capacity of fully synthetic oils and want you to change it at 5k interval. Some companies call you in after every 3 months for oil change even if you have run 2k km on it. It is a method to generate business.

Atlas Honda might have been saying to use w30 oil and that is NOT wrong to use either, but w20 oil is in use all over the world since R18 was launched. And is fine to use all over. Recommended in manuals.

Local assemblers were never known to be up to date on their methods and tech. Only now they are embracing Xw20 oils officially, 20 years after they have been in use in rest of the world.

[wasimcsi]

Hello all,
Just read the discussion and its seems never ending debate of 0w20 vs 5w30
My question is that
I own a 2021 Civic-X 1.8, 70k kms driven. Honda Genuine 0w20 oil was used until 63k kms (Honda Gateway, Lahore was pouring it in) However, at 68k kms, I switched to Total Future 9000 5w30 oil based on a friend's recommendation. Now, I am confused because I have read everywhere that 0w20 is better than 5w30 in terms of mileage and performance for Civics. My question is, can I flush out the 5w30 oil (which has been driven for 3,000 kilometers) and switch back to 0w20 Liqui Moly, or should I continue using the 5w30 but Liqui Moly not Total?

[wasimcsi]

As per shared manual both 0w20 and 5w30 can be used but its for 1.5L engine. Though it is also mentioned that 0w20 is formulated for better fuel economy.

[wasimcsi]

[mgalaxy3]

Nothing wrong with continuing to use 5w30. Do not flush.

0w20 can theoretically give slight fuel average increase, but only makes sense if you are getting it at the same or lower price than 5w30 can of oil. If w20 is more expensive then it doesn’t make sense to switch back to it from fuel economy perspective.

[pwuser161987731795]

I have a Honda Civic 2018, and for the past few days, there has been a whistling sound coming from its engine. This sound doesn't occur during at cold start it starts around 10 minutes after the engine is running and the car has warmed up. After that the sound disappears once the car has maintained its temperature. Sound is more prominent when rpm is decreasing after accelerating the engine.

[contacthuzaifaj]

I own a Civic X 2017. And I am now facing the steering rack issue. However my steering does not get stuck whatsoever. There is only tuk tuk sound when turning at stationary or low speed. Also if driving on a very uneven roads you can hear metal clunking together.

Read on a few forums that I should just get greased rather than changed since it's just a noise issue.

Car is out of warranty and I would have to pay in full for a replacement which is costing approx 200k these days from Honda itself.

Suggestions needed.

[contacthuzaifaj]

How much are you being asked to pay for replacement?

[muhxmmxd01]

I'm planning to get a Honda Civic Turbo pre facellift. I need honest reviews if it is worth it in 2024 and what is its fuel average if used normally as a family sedan? Would there be any issues if I use regular fuel or mixed (hi octance and regular fuel)?

[zaidi.ali.h]

Hi. I'm looking to get a pair of LED bulbs for my pre-facelift 1.8 X. Which brands do you all recommend that are also not very expensive. Went to the market today. Saw Fukuyama, Bugatti T2 cree, Alpine Gold and many other brands. I just want my headlights to have really white bright light and they should be safe for the car. I was a little concerned when i heard that some of the companies don't offer warranty. TIA.

[adnan.nasir]

For nearly five years, I relied on NOVSIGHT H4 bulbs in my Honda City, utilizing them for both headlights and fog lamps. They consistently delivered exceptional performance, maintaining their light intensity without degradation over time. These bulbs were unparalleled in quality with other brands even I compared the output with Phillips (installed in my friend's city). I purchased them directly from NOVSIGHT's official store on AliExpress, where they came with a one-year warranty. Impressively, a friend of mine even successfully claimed the warranty on their store online.

[waqar747]

I’ve run into a peculiar problem with my Civic X. Car was off and being detailed using APC. The wipers started running on high speed. Starting the car and putting the wiper stalk in all different positions didn’t work. Only in the slow speed setting, it actually slows down.
Took off the battery negative terminal for a few mins and that hasn’t fixed the issue.
Would someone know what the problem could be? Also, I can’t drive like this so please guide regarding the particular fuse for the wipers if separate, so that I can turn it off till it is attended by the dealership next week.

[waqar747]

A little update and some insight in what may have gone wrong. After a bit I reconnected the battery terminal and this time the wiper stopped. The car was of course off and the wiper stayed off this time.
But as soon as I switched the car on, pressed the start stop button twice, they started running again. The wiper stalk was in the off position.
So it looks like some APC liquid may have gone through the steering housing into the wiper stalk contacts connections. I may have to wait for it to dry but since a couple of hours have already gone by, I don’t know whether this is the problem. APCs generally have surfactants (soap) in them so take longer to dry.
I also opened up the fuse box but it has two parts to the fuse diagram. The top part matches the physical fuse arrangement, but the bottom part is no where to be seen. And the wipers are in the bottom part of the diagram.

Any idea what to do now?

[waqar747]

Problem fixed by itself.
I guess it was moisture in the wiper stalk contacts inside the steering housing. It went away and dried up in a few hours.
The car started just fine after that and wipers are now off.

[adnan.nasir]

Always use a sponge applicator instead of spraying any APC directly on any interior surface.