10th Generation Civic Owners/ FanClub Discussion Thread

[Cool_Stud]

Loving the drive so far. Though not content with the build quality. Totally disappointed with the way honda Atlas has finished this car.

[suneelmunj]

@cool_stud ..u havent take n the car out of the show room ?? plz post some real outdoor pics

[fouadbakht]

Yes, you are right. But like I said a lot varies from case to case but in general the issue persists with most.

[salik990]

One more thing as being an engineer is .......Woh Khunjraaab wali Silver Turbo Yaad aa Gai.......It was not the performance of Unichip that he was able to get that round trip.......
On high Altitudes the air becomes thin so more air is induced into the combustion chamber for which lower octane fuel being more volatile to early combustion is required.......and easily fulfills the requirement......

On high altitude the turbo cars suffer a lot and reduce the power as less oxygen in the air. Tht silver turbo civic which went to China border from Khi got reflashed unichip. The performance of tune turbo cars will run a lot better in Khi sea level compare to Isb altitude.

[salik990]

That is why unichip doesnt recommend to get unichip or racechip on turbo civic which is having knocking issue, only they offering reflash now.

[jklodhi]

Attock HOBC is very good

I have also shed HASCOL and it is at par .

Up till now

Total
Attock
Hascol

These three stand out in quality

[Rahat083144]

But as far as i have a feed back from a friend.....as far as you use HOBC whether it is from Total, Shell or PSO..... there is no problem. Once if u use regular petrol and floor your car multiple times then knocking comes which then won't go away easily until you replenish complete tank with HIoctane especially from Total.

I used HOBC from PSO Ittehad Karachi (my pet pump for many a year) and the car started knocking. Soon as I switched to Total, knocking was gone even with a mix of regular and HOBC.

[Rahat083144]

No one ever will. It takes guts to accept, come out with the truth, may it be the Turbo owners (mostly) or Honda Atlas. Everybody says that his Turbo is fine, no knocking issues or very minimal. It takes people like @salik990 and few others to acknowledge that there is a problem.
But honestly, things maybe a little deeper and secrets somewhat dirtier than what Honda is coming up with. I'm more interested in what were the results of the test mules before mass production came into play. I am in no way going to believe that Honda was not aware of the problem and that they were fully ready to launch the Turbo variant. Trust me, I was a potential Turbo buyer. First the overall quality control put me off, then, as the quality control team was screwed to do their job and things got much better, in came the knocking issue from bad to worse. So, in the end I had to go the trusty old school route ..... 1.8 R18. And guess what..... I'm still satisfied Alhamdolillah.
The saying goes like "Birds of the same feather flock together" whether Oriel or Turbo
But as of now, I belong to the Oriel Wolf Pack............

Absolutely the right choice. But I already had 8th Gen and CL9 so knew that Oriel won't cut it for me. I went for the Turbo and am glad I did. Have experienced knocking for a 1000km period in between and yes it's a true pain in the @@@. But it's a hell of a monster!

Problem is, you have to be OCD about maintaining and need a strong butt Dyno. Hence very impractical - e.g. these days I'm planning a trip up country but can't go in the Turbo because from personal experience I know that once knocking starts, your only option is to pray.

[Rahat083144]

It's a tough call.
But I would take DCT any day over cvt.
dual clutch shifting is really smooth and fast plus the thrill in sports of DCT is amazing, which cvt can never give.
I am using Vezel so I really enjoy revving it.

I can imagine. Civic X is my first experience with CVT - initially it felt hell boring. A bit less so now, probably cuz I'm getting used to it. And yes I prefer the drive of my conventional auto CL9 and the ability to cross 7k rpm with a flick of the pedal.

[UJ]

Allah ka shukar...8000 Km done....no sign of knocking in my Red Sweet Cherry.....by special mehrbani of Allah I was lucky after being born muslim that I got trouble free Tuebo...really enjoying...Using Total Ron 97 + 92 from Day one...and also Shell V occasionally...so satisfied....

[jklodhi]

I still believe that knocking issue is prominent in the cars delivered in first batch i.e in October 2016

Cars from Jan 2017 are much better in terms of knocking

[pantium]

Was that including trims ?

[pantium]

Where did you get those tires from ?

[pantium]

Which leather steering stiching you got in your car ? Ehere from ? How much did it cost ?

[arkhitekt]

Yes Sir it was included all arms and centre console. For further details please refer to my specific thread with title Arkhitekt's feedback: Civic X Oriel brother. All info, pictures, query, everything is posted there.

[arkhitekt]

@pantium, everything I have done is available here

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/t/arkhitekts-feedback-civic-x-oriel

Or for further details you can PM me or use whatsapp.

[omarkhan239]

I got them from Lahore Traders, Neela Gumbad.

[khuram2703]

Dear fellow!

Yes you are right, less oxygen means Low RON needed for the combustion to take place and chances of knocking reduced to nil.

If you are not an Engineer then i cannot argue with you on that....but if you are then it is needed to clear the concept which i mentioned above.......
apart from theoretical brief explanation above,.....

Bro!! I am working in a Power Generation Company. We use to install & commission NCPs (Non- Captive Power Plants. The Engines / Generators which we use to commission are mostly Turbo charged....that's why we know the de-ration factor of internal combustion engines with respect to high altitude and high temperatures.
A couple of years back, when i used to commission the Gas Engines....we use to put a special KNOCK INDEX value with the help of OEM supplied software in the ECU of that particular Gen set to run on particular BTU fuel (Nat Gas) in the region where it is installed which defines the ignition timing / knock detonation mapping for that particular fuel.

If some UNICHIP Guy is reading this he may know what i am talking about so i think i am pretty clear about the concept what UNICHIP is doing....and the precaution of keeping a Turbo charged engine whether it is a Generator (stationary Engine category), or an Automobile (Dynamic engine category)....Whether it is a Turbo Civic, Turbo BMW, Turbo Audi, Super charged Merc......are the same......

2 months back i went to Nathigalii with a family friend on N-ONE Premium (3 cylinder Turbo charged Earthdreams Engine).....The experience was mind blowing without a single bit of a problem. How it ascends and decends......beautiful.......

[suneelmunj]

GOOD NEWS GOOD NEWS
after consistently using high-ocatne from total same pump 4 to 5 times the knocking is almost gone

[arkhitekt]

I guessed you might have made up your mind for selling you your car. Keeping it?