2006 HONDA Civic 1.3i VTEC Executive IMA Import

[uiv]

How about lesser emission for a start?

Yes they give less emissions but they could be, in a way, rather more pollutant. These Hybrid car are not exactly 'green' or 'eco-friendly' as soon as we recall that they use large batteries.

Lets think of raw materials, collected for those batteries, carried from some country (China?) to Japan or somewhere in Asia to make a battery which was later shipped to other countries and then fitted in a car that'd hopefully help with lesser emissions. All this process definitely used energy- most probably produced using organic fuel. And thats not a fragment of fuel either, we're talking here.
On its way, to get in the car, a battery could have used more fuel and energy (and in turn been pollutant) then it would ever struggle to save in its entire life (which is frankly not too long).

With my limited knowledge, I could never ever think that batteries are green motoring solution.
Just my opinion. Cheers

[uiv]

I agree that those hybrid cars give pretty good mileages and less emissions. But if we ever tried to drive our gasoline Civics like we were driving a hybrid, it would definitely amaze us.
On the other hand- a hybrid, if pushed like a normal car, would keep it running on its tiny engine, always overloading it, and we won't be doing much to save our fuel or environment.

IMO fuel economy has more to do with the driving style. I've seen wiser people doing better mileage with a 1.8L iVTEC then a teenager in an iDSI

Thats the problem with cars like iDSI City, they were made to be eco-friendly and good on fuel, but we deny this bitter reality and try to push it closer to the NASCAR. And it messes up with the whole idea of iDSI.
And then we can plainly see that Honda folks here are just a bunch of morons. Who but an epic idiot would say that, in Pakistan's conditions, a 1.2L under powered car can be more economical then a reasonable 1.3L or 1.4L one? It always struggles to get in the fast lane, leaving no choice but to push the paddle a bit more... and then we're back to square one.

IMHO, driving a powerful car with a gentle pedal can be just as economical as driving an underpowered one flat out. And then there's the idea of underpowered Hybrid cars :-#

[froggyjump]

Yes they give less emissions but they could be, in a way, rather more pollutant. These Hybrid car are not exactly 'green' or 'eco-friendly' as soon as we recall that they use large batteries.

Lets think of raw materials, collected for those batteries, carried from some country (China?) to Japan or somewhere in Asia to make a battery which was later shipped to other countries and then fitted in a car that'd hopefully help with lesser emissions. All this process definitely used energy- most probably produced using organic fuel. And thats not a fragment of fuel either, we're talking here.
On its way, to get in the car, a battery could have used more fuel and energy (and in turn been pollutant) then it would ever struggle to save in its entire life (which is frankly not too long).

With my limited knowledge, I could never ever think that batteries are green motoring solution.
Just my opinion. Cheers

^^Dangerous gas emissions are very low in hybrids. They save lot of fuels as well. That is why the world in moving towards hybrid. So they are in no way more polluting. This is the first time i'm hearing such a thing. Regarding transportation of batteries, aren't other components of the car not transported as well ?..

And also regarding your other post. I checked, Honda aims to be innovative but it is in no way not a non-profit entity. No other automaker states profitability as its goal, even PakSuzuki' mission is to "To provide automobile of international quality at competitive price".

[MominHaq]

Actually uiv's logic is rather true, I'm surprised you haven't heard such a thing.

People tend to forget all the resources that are used to create the "green" technologies and those resources actually cause harm to the environment.

Sure when toyota makes batteries for their hybrid cars they implement "greener" manufacturing techniques but it is not true all across the board.

Also these hybrids are only useful in city driving, but is a whole another story on the highway.Most of the hybrids have a lower highway MPG compared to city MPG, which as you know is totally opposite of non-hybrid cars.

[uiv]

@mominhaq89
I thank you mate Now- would you, Sir, buy an expensive, underpowered, impractical, unreliable hybrid over an all good, no regret, similar gasoline car?

[MominHaq]

@mominhaq89
I thank you mate Now- would you, Sir, buy an expensive, underpowered, impractical, unreliable hybrid over an all good, no regret, similar gasoline car?

I wouldn't buy anything that says "hybrid".

I would rather buy a v8 and only drive on the weekends than to buy a hybrid and drive for the whole week.

[c123pk]

What green ? where will you dump the old battery pack when its dead ? :S

[uiv]

And also regarding your other post. I checked, Honda aims to be innovative but it is in no way not a non-profit entity. No other automaker states profitability as its goal, even PakSuzuki' mission is to "To provide automobile of international quality at competitive price".
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I don't want to deliver some spark to Honda-Toyota battle here, but as far as I can see, Honda is making much lesser profit then Toyota does.

They have been running two different car setups i.e Civic & City. This means that they have to make two different chassis and body panels for both cars. They have to supply maintenance and services for both cars, they need to get the staff trained for both… and a lot more headache.
This raises the cost of production coz when they’re making 60 doors for City and 40 for Civic, Toyota folks will make a 100 to fit all their Corolla cars. And then Honda people change their models twice in 24 hours where as Toyota has given us only 3 models in last two decades. And lets not forget that Civic is has an advanced engine, superior suspension, better build quality and lesser emissions for a lower price.

I’m terribly sorry mate, but I have a feeling that other car companies in Pakistan are making a lot more profits with their stubbornness then Honda does with their technology.

About Honda world-wide profits- I really need to study a bit more coz this is the very company whose entry and success to US motorbike market is a business legend on its own right (H)

[uiv]

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[accord7362]

steermatic, spectra ,hybrid and lot of other good cars are unfortunately not recognized by so called intelligent buyers of Pakistan.

we are more concern about the resale rather than enjoying the good machines we would like to put seat covers over the plastic packing on the first day of purchase rather than enjoying the virginity of the new car.

enjoy your ride buddy its a good decision
good luck

[uiv]

just watch the video bro, just watch it after 3:33

[findpasha]

Hello friend, tell me how this vehicle is ? It's fuel consumption and other pros and cones ? Is it worth spending almost 1.5 million for 2006, 2008 model?