2021 Honda City GM6 Dedicated Discussion, Owner/ Fan Club Thread

[mutated]

Banks already have advanced booked cars for priority delivery to their customers.

Correct, thats bank way of making money. Banks charge for this service (probably 10% over the ex-showroom price) but at least black and gray economy will reduce and even if some one goes for the early delivery option, all the financial and credit checks will still be there...

So if you want a car, you must have proper verifiable income and tax records and enough legitimate disposable income to be able to afford the vehicle. Just because you deposited 100 Million in your account would not allow you to buy a new car, you will have to justify that 100 Million

[Undeadking0001]

VTEC also has valve lift it is the same technology as the VVTL you mentioned

[shapeesh]

yup, because it was already mentioned in an earlier post, i ddnt write it again,

but that lift is mostly useful on the exhaust valves which dont have vtec in sohc engines.

[arslanawan222]

Civics x has the most shittiest engine ever.
I have both grande and civic x 1.8.
Civic is absolutely a cow and boy does it lag.
Corolla has a beautiful well refined engine, extremely responsive and fun to drive.
Honda Atlas never gave us a good engine since a decade.

[htb456]

yes, i-vtec implies vtec with vtc, generally speaking otherwise it is mentioned if it is only vtc

[htb456]

its not the engine but transmission`s fault. And believe it or not, civic does beat grande in a race. I dont know what engine oil you have been using or waht but civic 1.8 has a very good engine

[shapeesh]

not necessarily, SOHC engines cant really have VTC, as the exhaust valve is also on the same cam. the L series and R series engines dnt have VTC but only VTEC.

[htb456]

wait, but L series wikipedia page says it is i-vtec for both L12 and L15. So by this i-vtec it means vtec operation on both intake and exhaust?

Edit: in SOHC L series engines i-vtec means intelligent valve control as in either engine is in 12valve or 16 valve mode. Same applies to SOHC R series as well

[pwuser151967054480]

The L and R series engines' ivtec is more like an Atkinson cycle simulator. Delays intake valve closing at low RPMs to get more efficiency but low torque like Atkinson engines and at high RPMs intake valves close normally. There's no high cam switchover like in D series engines, that's why the D16 makes more power per liter than r18 or l15. So it's more like low-normal power rather than the expected from VTEC normal-high power engine profile switchover. Still amazing how honda makes equal or more power than competitors with sohc Vs dohc, and the gimping ivtec rather than the usual variable valve timing. Now with honda switching back to dohc and proper VTEC on these small engines, they're well beyond the power figures of their competitors.

[pwuser151967054480]

The sohc l12 and l15 we're getting only have intake valve control. 12-16 valve switchover was in d series sohc VTEC engines. You can read my comment before this to get the difference.

[htb456]

Honda is always ahead in engine game. VTEC was so igenious. Honda doesnt use any of this in its F1 engine though ( a completely different ball game and honda is only japanese manufacturer in the sport), which I consider the pinnacle of automotive engineering, and it just won the monaco grand prix.

[htb456]

yes, i got it right now. L series (SOHC) vtec is only on intake valves, but still it outperforms toyota`s 1.6 litre engine

[shapeesh]

the newer dohc engines are called vtec , but they only have vtc, e.g the 1.5T in civic. It does not use vtec cam profiling, but only the VTC actuators as in normal vvt engines.

P,S.
As per my info the L series is also with the 1v/2v mode carried over from the D series, i.e L15A also uses a 12valve/16valve VTEC system i.e low rps only one intake valve opens and at higher both open.

[chinyoti]

Bhai please check your facts and figures. Banks don't charge 10% for quick delivery. They have corporate deals with car manufacturers.

They offer them clients for quicker deliveries only.

The 10% is how banks work. May you get your car in 1 month or in 8 months.

Many banks advertise installments start after delivery and priority delivery to get clientele.

So they have to have cars for quicker deliveries

[Hassan1991]

No.
Intake cams are advanced. You are closing the valves before at low rpm. To get more torque. "Overlapping"
That's why vtc allows advance movement.
Exhaust cams are retard.
If we talk about k series. Economical engines have vtec on only intake cams with vtc. While performance variant got vtec on both cams with vtc on intake only.

[arslanawan222]

Yea that is true. The cvt lag is insane.
I use hondas 0w20.
I have 18" wheels maybe they're the culprit.

[pwuser151967054480]

Yes cause f1 engines won't even spend 1% of their time in lower RPMs making VTEC redundant.

Wait hondas F1 engine car actually won? Very surprising considering how bad their earlier v6 turbos were.

[nfssaad]

does this android work like android tablet?

can you install app through playstore? connect it to wifi or install data sim etc?

[mutated]

Again this varies from bank to bank.
I know of some banks who book the cars in advance and when you approach them they ask you if you want early delivery from the bank's stock which will cost you 10% more than the actual price plus the regular markup and installment plan or do you want the bank to book a car now and would wait for it's delivery.

So let's say a car costs 3 million ex showroom and 10% per year so in the first case the bank will charge you 3.3 mil plus the 10% per year and you will get the car in less than a week. (Normally 2-3 days)
In second case the car price will be 3.0 million plus 10% per year but you might have to wait 2-3 months (regular waiting time) for delivery.

What you are mentioning is the 3rd procedure where the Bank tells the manufacturer that we are a big customer so we need expedited delivery after regular booking. In that case the customer gets the car in approximately half the regular waiting time.

[roboxx]

Yes, this is like an android tablet/phone. If u look at the pic, there are PlayStore and WiFi icons on the front page. It's functionality is exactly the same as that of android tablet.