2021 Honda City GM6 Dedicated Discussion, Owner/ Fan Club Thread

[chinyoti]

This was done previously.

The owner on paper had to take delivery and also pay registration at time of booking.

The owner would receive a registered car. Take it home and sell it. Invoice + premium + registration.

People always have a solution before hand.

Later cars started being booked / fraudulently as open invoice.

Their are alot of adds on pakwheels selling fresh cars as open invoice cars.

Showroom (company outlets franchises) probably have a leverage from factory to buy xyz cars for display purposes or investment so protect franchise investments (a single Honda/ Toyota dealership costs around 5 crore)

Own premium would never end, and would exist their are situations where dealers actually offer you a discounted price on bookings aswell.

Their might be premium on ready delivery and the same dealer would offer you benefits on booking car from them

Smallest benefits might include free servicing, free Matt's, top cover or else a cash refund.

[ar_001]

Loved the comment where a guy said, Honda is launching a shitty Old gen crap like its a Rolls Royce 🤣

[Undeadking0001]

Dealerships aren't 5 crore a pop they're 15 crore roughly for just the franchise with additional costs for building According to Toyota mirpur's owners interview. Even suzuki township in lahore had to pay 9-10 crore just to convert an existing suzuki dealership to honda. Why because honda sells on own and with the launch of city he will easily recover all his money whereas what genius buys suzuki on own

[umfa85]

Upcoming 6th Gen city is CVT which is better than Corolla 4 speed ect.. So you can say city will have better transmission.
But engine 1.6 altis comes with dual vvti, and it is a nice advance engine.

[chinyoti]

what genius buys suzuki on own

Any genius who cannot afford honda.

Cultus is probably the top seller on premium. Which was roughly 300k a month back still stands at around 100,000 for ready delivery

[chinyoti]

what genius buys suzuki on own

Any genius who cannot afford honda.

Cultus is probably the top seller on premium. Which was roughly 300k a month back still stands at around 100,000 for ready delivery

[htb456]

dual vvti is a very old technology. Honda`s vtec is better than vvt any day because not only i-vtec incorporates variable valve control but also variable valve lift. There is a reason that honda`s 1.5 litre produces the same horsepower, even with SOHC, as toyota`s 1.6. Also vvt is not toyota`s proprietery technology however honda owns vtec

[fastian04]

Engines are equally good in japanese brands. However, somehow toyota engines feel lot responsive in start stop situations. I think its how these are designed

[htb456]

transmission factor otherwise honda is always faster

[fastian04]

Could be. I always find corolla more response vs civic X in city traffic. Specially with 5 persons A/C on. Transmission is extremely important factor in overall driving experience

[htb456]

in case of pkdm corolla 1.8 vs pkdm civic 1.8, yes. 0-100 of corolla is better by a second but then civic takes over (vtec kicks in )

[mohammadali_1]

Sir open invoice is something else... basically when cars are produced and not sold, they are handed over to showroom owners on the basis of quota, these cars reach showrooms uninvoiced, when someone buys it, they get it invoiced on his name...

When systems were not interconnected such frauds were possible, now times are changing

[fastian04]

Not at all. Registeration pay kerain and sell it. Buyer can transfer after 4 months whatever. Its so simple:) even rickshaw alto has 50k premium. Plot se acha hai bnda 1 car circulation main rakhay yahaan

[roboxx]

Vtec kicks-in in some seconds

[Undeadking0001]

300k own on a bloody cultus. Allah maaf kare

[mutated]

Probably one of the easiest and most foolproof system might be to make direct end user purchase illegal and government making law that each and every car leaving the factory must be booked through a bank. The vehicle can be either in Bank's name or the bank can be the Lien holder.
The gvt can allow banks to give 0% loans in case a buyer makes 100% payment but the car will be connected to a bank and it will be responsibility of the bank to make sure that the car does not get transferred in say 1 year at least or a high penalty is paid. Furthermore it will be duty of the bank (just like now) to make sure that the vehicle is registered before it comes out on the street.
This will

1. Document the economy, no one with black or gray money will be able to buy new vehicle
2. Every vehicle on the street will be registered
3. Reduce Delivery time since no own mafia
4. Every vehicle will be insured so in case of accident on the road there will be less arguments of who will pay.

Disclaimer: I am not connected to any Banking or insurance industry nor any of my relatives working in any such financial institution.

[chinyoti]

Usmei bhee third party agents middle man ajainge.

Asking for CNIC and premiums sir ham apko gari leike dete hain. Ap ko directly nae milegi.

Similarly showrooms tell you, sir bookings are closed. Premium pe lei lein gari.

[mutated]

Agreed, but again the 3rd party agent will need to go to the bank and the bank will verify if the applying party has enough credit history and disposable legitimate income as well to justify the purchase and does the party has enough disposable income stream to handle the monthly payments. (Whenever you apply for a loan/ credit, the application is forwarded to state bank which makes sure that your total payable amount across all banks in Pakistan per month does not exceed 1/3 of your total declared income, this is the reason when you apply for a credit card from say Faysal bank, the next week you get calls from 5 - 6 other banks k hum sy credit card banwa lain because State bank asks all the banks that such and such person has applied for loan/credit card and does he owe you any outstanding amount)

The banks can make sure not to apply for a vehicle for any party without at least 1 year relationship or income record just like the current practice.

Plus just like now the bank will need to do independent credit, income, employment and residence checks so even if the cashier of the bank entices you that you can get a new car from him with some premimum, the final checks are done in another section of the bank and overseen by the state bank.

So in case of a 3rd party if their only business / income source is getting new cars for their customers on premium (Badshah Khan Installment Center), the bank's credit check department or the overseeing State bank can deny the loan facility (blacklist) for the company/ the employees/ owners of record of the company or even reject / recall all existing loans for those individuals or companies as frauds

[chinyoti]

Banks already have advanced booked cars for priority delivery to their customers.

I am talking about 100% cash payment customers since you mentioned all sales should be done through banks.

[shapeesh]

VVT functions by varying the timing of the cam, while vtech works by altering the cam profile.

in SOHC only intake valves have VTEC and exhaust doesnt,

VVT can also do valve lift but then it is called, VVTL

Dual VVT means that the VVT is on both inlet and exhaust cams/valves,

vvt is not propietary but VVT-i is toyota proprietary

honda is also recently using the VTC engines, which are basicaly VVT systems and they call it VTEC just because VTEC is popular name although some honda engines have both VTEC and VTC, but they are now switching to plain old vvt aka VTC.