2021 Honda City GM6 Dedicated Discussion, Owner/ Fan Club Thread

[umfa85]

Oooh sorry my bad. I through he was asking about the difference after FED increase.

For tyres he paid 32K difference for CC6 with 30km driven Eurostars.

16k each is CC6 price for 50 week 2021.

[sayedarsalanali]

Pardon me if the following are repeated question as I didn't read all the prior 9.5k comments;

Q1- What's is the fuel average of city 1.2 l cvt in urban driving conditions? (Only first hand experiences please)

Q2- What's are the drawbacks of having a 5 speed CVT gearbox (as offered in City) vs 7 speed CVT gear (as offered in Yaris)?

TIA

[sayedarsalanali]

Congratulations

[chinyoti]

Their is no 5 or 7 speed CVT gears.

Cvt is infinite gears. 7 Gears in Yaris manual mode are computerized set ratios, to give you pleasure of a manual or a AT.

Just like City steermatec had steering controlled gears. Also paddle shifters in Corolla.

CVT = no gears, only belts that expand and contract as required.

[engineerjibran]

Belts dont expand or contract only diameters of the pulleys change as get closer or further from each other.

[Abd008]

Technically speaking there is a limit of this "infinite gears" dependent on driven and drive gear diameter.

[chinyoti]

Definitely.

But in lay man's language, CVT gari mei gear nae hotei. It keeps going just like a 49 cc scooty

[ammarzubair]

looks great. masla sirf color ka ye he got it proper washed yesterday. aaj wapis mitti se halat buri he. probably should get a pressure washer

this is at time of delivery

This is yesterday after the wash

This right now

[ammarzubair]

yar sound system bilkul maza nahi de rha. I like good sound. had a good system in my previous and ghar pe bhi.

the sound is decent for average use but I need a little more. are there any options of a wireless woofer that can run off bluetooth or something. dont want to void warranty

[harisworld13]

MashaAllah grey looks great beauty
yar sound system is ok you need to go to settings and set the Equalizer settings and loudness etc. If you are into more better than you need to upgrade the speakers n ad sub woofer.
Sub woofer could be done as it will be plug n play to the headunit without any wire cut or anything but do check from audio shop he will check headunit and advise

[ammarzubair]

Oh really. That would be great if that is possible. I'll check it out

[ammarzubair]

anyone has a wiring diagram for the aspire head unit? the manual for it has nothing related to the backside of the unit

[sayedarsalanali]

Bhai then why Toyota writes 7 speed in Grande and Yaris while Honda writes 5 speed in relevant specifications.

[waqar747]

Virtual gears. The ECU makes it feel like you have got 7 gears, for the driving experience.
Honda may have similar mapping but for 5 fake gears. That’s why it says 5.

[umfa85]

CVT has 2 pulleys. One connected to transmission and other to engine. A belt runs over these pulleys. Gear ratio here refer to the distance between 2 pulleys.

7 and 5 speed only refer to the distance adjument of 2 CVT pulleys and also may refer to logical gears.

[sayedarsalanali]

Right, let me rephrase the question then;

If the gear ratios can be controlled by programming only then why Honda decided to go with 5 and Toyota with 7? What are the pros and cons of these two (virtual) gears?

[crema]

Right, let me rephrase the question then;

If the gear ratios can be controlled by programming only then why Honda decided to go with 5 and Toyota with 7? What are the pros and cons of these two (virtual) gears?

They pre described the position as per the torque band of the motor, optimizing the power delivery. Which can be selected by using + or - while in M mode (Toyota)

They may not be termed as virtual gears, as the drive reduction or gain really happens. How it is achived is by driving a slave cone by steel chain, which can slide along any position both on drive and slave cones by variation of hydraulic pressures on cones.

[chinyoti]

You can actually play with 7 gears up and down in Corolla 1.8 and Yaris variants if you shift to M (manual) mode

With City its just D mode.

City steermatec had 7 up and gears aswell. This time they don't have a M mode in City.

Baqi the people putting up brochures together are knuckle heads. They don't know anything ( lakeer k faqeer)

[sayedarsalanali]

As a lay man, my understanding is that more the number of gears (or gear ratios), the more efficient is the power transmission from engine to wheels. While increasing the number of gear ratio in conventional transmission meant more mechanical parts (increase of weight and increased complexity of the system) which limited the number of gears in AT.

[ZainMahdi]

my understanding is that more the number of gears (or gear ratios), the more efficient is the power transmission from engine to wheels. While increasing the number of gear ratio in conventional transmission meant more mechanical parts (increase of weight and increased complexity of the system) which limited the number of gears in AT

There are no physical gears in a CVT, i.e. daanton wali garari nahi hoti.

The 7-speed CVT is a misnomer - just a marketing gimmick. These are just preset diameters of the pulley, that can be selected by the user. This is a fairly pointless feature.

The aim of a transmission is to keep the engine in a certain RPM range for different driving conditions, whether for power or fuel economy.

Theoretically, a CVT is better than a traditional, step-shift transmission at doing this. In reality, a CVT is not nearly as robust as traditional transmissions (not counting the e-CVT in a hybrid).

In addition, a dead CVT can not be rebuilt like a traditional automatic/manual transmission.

Most consumers here in Pakistan, having fallen for marketing gimmicks, now think that CVT is a superior transmission, when in actuality it's pretty useless. Sadly, because of (misinformed) consumer demand, traditional torque-converter automatics are pretty much gone (except for the Altis 1.6).