5th Generation Kia Sportage "NQ5" , Discussion Thread

[umairzafar]

The on road price of FWD is PKR 12,696,225 while HEV is 13,402,090 as per pakwheels. A difference of just 0.7 million. Choosing FWB is a no brainer at this price

[pwuser167550015690]

The price for the 2.0 FWD is pretty bonkers in my opinion. I wasn't the target audience anyways since I just got an H6 HEV but I was hoping they'd price the Sportage a bit agressive to get Sazgar to drive down the prices a bit as well.

However, it doesn't sound like there is any good reason to get a cut-down 2.0 FWD Sportage right now for a price higher than an H6 HEV, when you can get a Full Option 2.0 AWD H6 for almost PKR 1.5 million less.

2.0 FWD Sportage should cost as much as the 2.0 AWD H6 at max (ideally under that since it lacks a whole lot of features 2.0 AWD H6 offers).

[mgalaxy3]

A prime example of failure at launch.

Haval has a TON of leverage over Lucky now. Their profit margins are already huge and they have made a big market for themselves. Same for Oshan X7.

Sazgar can drop prices by one million and further kill any Sportage survival chances.

HEV Haval is already priced less than non HEV Sportage. Imagine a further 5 lacs discount.

Lucky has lost its mind.

[pwuser150064581489]

True .

[pwuser165467846888]

On Top of overpricing dealership are asking 10lac premium on feb booking and 5lac on March, digging your own Grave KIA Pakistan

[waqasahmed03]

Absolutely lost their witz.

[AABBDDuullaahh]

Sazgar has displayed an extreme level greed imo, when it comes to their 4 wheelers offerings. And with the sportage pricing, and their existing penetration in the market, i dont see any reason now for them to reduce their pricing.
They'll comfortably keep selling equal (or even more units) of H6 now, with the already high profits they're making

I'm pleasantly surprised by MG though, and their launch of HS PHEV and it's pricing. If they do deliver the initial batch at their committed 9.5mil price, i must say they'll prove themselves to be genuinely customer centric and commitment honouring. They might even take the lead in HEV sales very soon, since all they need is one good product and commitment backing to restore their brand trust in customers

[sohaibshaddy1]

Sazgar came up with a good and decent product. That segment was untapped just like cross over segment was untapped when Sportage came in Pakistan.
Priced it relatively higher and it still worked. People liked h6 HEV and now its a "market ki gari". So if someone is making a profit by selling a decent product, doesnt really harm.

[zee5han]

Your forgetting very smart advertising by engaging Pakwheels and Influencers

[waqasahmed03]

Munj sahab subliminally tried to control the mind by "guessing" the price. can you check out his hypocrisy, he never talks about pricing?? definitely tilted towards the OEMS.

[AABBDDuullaahh]

Well the harm has been done.
The Sportage is overpriced
The upcoming tucson and sorento will also be
And i expect the new entrant byd-mega to also be influenced by it

So i would DEFINITELY say sazgar and our awaam (deprived of options and jumping on h6 hev) have ruined the price standards for this segment.

So I, for one believe, that's a bad influence on the market and segment. Haan surely the ultra rich do not care about VFM and just buy whatever they find the best in their budget. And that's the thinking of a normal person. But being a pakwheeler i like to assess and compare options rationally and with international markets as well. So just sharing my opinion

[tech_wiz]

Kia Lucky can hire all the same and more influencers as well as Pakwheels people as unofficial brand ambassadors and Sportage will still not make a dent. Why? Because at the end of the day:

1. Product has to be good and attractive enough to its potential customers.

2. It has to be priced right. This “right” is variable and depends on market dynamics that change from time to time.

H6 was priced higher but it was fair price for the people who bought it then. It had no close competitor and there was no existing reference price to compete with. So it sold well.

Kia cannot turn a blind eye and play the same game which Sazgar played earlier because H6 exists and has a big market share too. In order to succeed, Kia should have priced it competitively which they didn’t. Now they will either discount it semi-permanently or sell in low numbers vs H6.

A practical example of this stupidity is highlighted when you compare Sportage 2.0 FWD with H6 2.0 AWD.

Sportage neither competes on features nor on price. H6 AWD is a good 1.5 million less, both are non-hybrid and offers tons of more features.

[pwuser163456691455]

No one has yet commented on the price of Santa Fe Smart version the same Hybrid Car as Sportage is. I think it is cheaper than the Sportage HEV and yet a 7 seater D Segment SUV. I think people will be thinking of putting thier kitty in Santa Fe Smart. I am seriously thinking about it.

[zee5han]

No ADAS features , Not even Harman Kardon sound system , you don't get anything other than the 7 seats it doesn't even have AC vents in the 3rd row

[missiledefence]

hlighted when

another example of KIA absolute stupidity is when you comapre SPORTAGE-LLLLL with satafe base varient of 1.24 crore.

they were definitely sniffing cocain and want RoI within 1 year.

[missiledefence]

ple of KIA absolute stupidity is when you comapre SPORTAGE-LLLLL with satafe base varient of 1.24 crore.

and people in pakistan doesnt really anna pay 1 million for speakers!! so thats a bit of irrelevent addon.

[missiledefence]

dotn forget KIA has made blunders with pegeout, Stonic and sorento 3.5. they had reversed their prices upto a million for both stonic and sorento. they have failed pegeout by not launching other versions. both stonic and pegout buyers are stuck as there are no other models coming.

so my point is that other then their previous sportage, they have effed up everything.

[pwuser163456691455]

In that case the market leader in coming days will be H6 HEV in mid segment category. Sportage has buried themselves deep. They had a chance to resurge but they badly failed. First by putting full price for delivery at launch. Secondly by putting unrealistic and uncompetitive prices and thirdly the unprofessional attitude of dealerships asking premium upto 5 lacs. TUCSON 5th Gen is not the same size as sportage L. They had only one flagship product which will not sell now because of thier own doing

[waqarnazir29]

Very unprofessional attitude of their staff at dealerships specially all ugly looking auties they hired at I-9 dealership. I just said to them dont you think kia price high two ladies were sitting there reply absolutely no look at haval h6 its a chinese car and they start talking bad about haval even i didnt took the name of haval then i asked for delivery time and they were telling me that 1 million on for feb delivery and .5 million for march delivery. How dealership can ask for on??? Stupid people they are thinking that they launch something out of the world here . Truth is haval h6 hev still look good from front sides and back in front of this sportage and more spacious from inside also

[waqarnazir29]

Waisay my office is near 1-9 wali dealership i just went through it and its empty . Koi nahi aya howa abhi tu