Any experience with Torque Garage or Tweak Motorsports?

[abdulraffay502]

I’ve came across following two garages on Facebook and services they are offering are quite interesting. Wondering if anybody has got any sort of experience in dealing and getting their Liana maintained by them?

• Torque Motorsports
• Tweak Garage

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[dani_kk]

What sort of maintenance they are offering? Let me know as I own Suzuki liana since 2014. So I want to see what special services are the offering?

[sohikun]

You own a liana? Never knew about that.

[abdulraffay502]

Following are the services that they are offering. Also please advise which one is more better in terms of enhancing fuel economy,

Advance Maintenance Package PKR 10,000
(Guaranteed Fuel average and performances results if all of the parts and sensors are in working condition)
• Ultrasonic Injectors Service/Clean by CNC-605 Injector Machine (GDI/PFI)
• Short and Long Fuel Trims Adjustments
• Fuel pressure tests
• Fuel Pump and Fuel Filters Clean/Service (Only top mount assemblies)
• AFR Test by Innovate USA
• Catalytic Converter Cleaner Protec Oxicat Germany
• Spark Plugs Factor/Gapped/ Clean/ Replace
• Ignition Coils Testing/ Replace
• Throttle Body Service
• MAP/MAP Service
• Battery Health Test
• Brake Fluid Moisture Test
• All engine factory Data Calibration
• Service resets by Launch X431 Station/ Pro 5

Fuel Efficient Package PKR 6,000
(Guaranteed Fuel average and performances results if all of the parts and sensors are in working condition)
• Ultrasonic Injectors Service/Clean by CNC-605 Injector Machine (GDI/PFI)
• Short and Long Fuel Trims Adjustments
• Catalytic Converter Cleaner Protec Oxicat Germany
• Spark Plugs Factor/Gapped/ Clean/ Replace
• Ignition Coils Testing/ Replace
• Throttle Body Service and factory calibration
• IACV Service/ Clean
• MAP/MAP Service
• All engine factory Data Calibration
• Service resets by Launch X431 Station/ Pro 5

[abdulraffay502]

@dani_kk What’s your opinion regarding these services? Are they good enough?

[abid110]

Tweak Garage

my bro in law had their service for his civic rebirth 2014. all was fine but the parts they used were extremely overpriced, like the Honda 10w30 available for 5800 was sold for 7400. its always advisable in every case to buy your own parts and take labour only.

[abdulraffay502]

Yes my plan for now is to get only car tuned from them. In case if they ask for some part to be changed. I’ll do that myself.

[dani_kk]

By the text they look good. We are also offering same services but with the ground reality. Short and long trims adjustment can not be done but it's written in text.
Suzuki liana is a very complex car. You can choose where to go but any workshop working on such cars should have a good experience and knowledge.
If anything messes up, then you will go in to a being always in a workshop mode.

[abdulraffay502]

I would’ve come to you if I was in Islamabad but I reside in Karachi and visit Islamabad once in a year. However, i went to them telling that I’ve got fuel economy issues.
- They’ve asked me to change the wires of the coil. Upon asking the reason, they came up with a response which was implying towards hit and trial method with no reason behind as there’s no leakage in current, missing etc.
- They told that engine is underpowered. And that I’m aware of, which only happens when AC is turned on because compressor is making rattling sounds which is putting extra load on engine.

Also I discovered one new thing today when I went to just check prices of the coil, Coils which are installed on M15A in Liana are of Baleno. I do not know to what extent this is true. Therefore, I’m unable to get Japanese or OEM Coils for my car.

[Proverbial_Slang]

Set of 3 Kabuli coil is available in market for11-13k PKR.

[abdulraffay502]

Some guy at told me that since my engine is M15A instead of M13A so OEM Liana coils won’t fit into it. Therefore, I’ll have to go for some Jugarh particularly two coils of Baleno in which two wires originate from each coil.
I don’t know how much of this is true.

[Proverbial_Slang]

I don't think this is the case. The ignition coils for M-series engine are the same. Don't have the wiring modified.

[abdulraffay502]

The new OEM coils that showed me and the aftermarket Japanese coil had only one port from which wire can originate and attach to spark plugs. Whereas I’ve got four spark plugs on which coils needs to be attached

OEM was about 58k for set
Japanese after market 12k for set

[Proverbial_Slang]

M-series engines use wasted spark technology, which means there are 2 coils for 4 spark plugs. Get Kabli pair with at least a week's "check-warranty". 12K sound ok.

[abdulraffay502]

Thanks for the clarification.
Kabli or new japenese one (YEC Flamma) which one is better option?

[dani_kk]

Kabuli engine pulled denso

[abdulraffay502]

I was misguided by that person then, looks like Kabuli/OEM can be fitted into M15A.

While I was going through engine bay, I took out oxygen sensor and I’ve found that the place where cat should be is nowhere to be seen -,-
So CAT was taken out by previous owner or maybe his mechanic and exhaust is all empty but weird is that I don’t get engine check light for missing CAT.