Automobile Manufacturers & The New Auto policy 2021-2025 - Malpractices

[abdulmajidqureshi]

Suzuki will pay millions in lawsuits to their lawyer but not refund its consumers. That is why they need to be penalized twice. One for not following govt policy and second for suffering its consumers.

[sabeehahmad]

i faced same issue. my tentative delivery date was on July but the suzuki car for some reason delivered my car in June. This they have done to facilitate their dealers. All unsold car of dealers are given to customers so that the loss can be transferred to customer. If you are aware that delarer,s quota cars are not booked by customers. They need to sell them their own. When it was announced by govt that 1000 cc cars also came into the concessionary rate, the suzuki company in compliance with car dealers gave those unsold car stock to us and thus transferred the loss to end customer. This is legal corruption which i have been trying to point out in this forum for the last many days.

[sabeehahmad]

pls let me know and i will join you.. i am facing same problem.

[abdulmajidqureshi]

I'm sorry to say, but purchase does not take place by giving money, it takes place in definition at the time of transfer of goods.

So, very soon we will have the government intervene in this matter. Paksuzuki will be liable for damages caused to consumers by registering cars on over invoiced deeds.

[bobtheminion.evil]

yes yes you just by chance took the exact image of the sales tax act and then post it on Pakwheels defending Suzuki
I have seen your many posts in favor of Suzuki I don't know how they are managing you to keep on posting in their favor
Sorry to say but you are always against the customer and always trying to cover every illegal and unethical practice of Pak Suzuki

[atifshakeel]

I have also been not getting the reduced sales tax on my vehicle booked on 26th May and invoiced on 15th July 2021. I have asked Pak Suzuki to share the CPR No (computerized payment receipt) so that i can verify the amount of sales tax Suzuki has paid to FBR against my invoice/CNIC and the date. I hope this will clear my speculations. But its almost 10 days Pak Suzuki has not sent me the CPR.
Withholding tax of PKR 15000 has been paid/submitted to FBR on 30th July to FBR as per my IRIS -> MIS section.
I will share the updated with you guys if i get any breakthrough in this case. Keep up the fight and hope something good will come out.

Regards,
Atif Shakeel

[ShahnawazKhan1]

So my car was booked on 7th June. Sales tax was due by 15th July (following month) even if we consider the booking date as sale date.

Below is the updated definition from 2008:

TIME OF SUPPLY
Sales tax is chargeable at the time of supply of goods or services. The time of supply means the time of delivery of goods by the supplier.

EXPLANATION
a) Where any goods are supplied by the registered person to an associated person and the goods are not to be removed , the time of supply shall be the time at which the goods are made available to the recipient.

Debit/Credit Notes:
Debit or credit note may be issued to reduce or increase the amount of sales tax payable on a supply if the amount originally charged has changed because of return of goods or for some other valid reason.

Source: https://download1.fbr.gov.pk/Docs/201012211412172902008stax.pdf

[ShahnawazKhan1]

Dear the point is that 2008 was after 1990...

[ShahnawazKhan1]

Yes. But its not a marketing brochure. Its a Sales Tax Guide by FBR for Taxpayer's facilitation with below definition & explanation. I can't help you if you don't find it significant. Peace.

TIME OF SUPPLY
Sales tax is chargeable at the time of supply of goods or services. The time of supply means the time of delivery of goods by the supplier.
EXPLANATION
a) Where any goods are supplied by the registered person to an associated person and the goods are not to be removed , the time of supply shall be the time at which the goods are made available to the recipient.

[ShahnawazKhan1]

For all those, who are objecting why Suzuki paid the sales tax in advance:

That was response to your post "For all those, who are objecting why Suzuki paid the sales tax in advance:"
I don't know about others who booked prior to May. But my Sales Tax deposit was due by 15th July...

[ShahnawazKhan1]

Sir, why don't you refer to the definition of the "time of supply" that was in force at the time of your purchase?

1990 --> Time of supply definition including "or payment"
2008 --> Brochure by FBR with explanation "the time of supply shall be the time at which the goods are made available to the recipient."

I would off course quote tax payer guide while making a case since chronologically it was officially released by FBR and its the most latest version of tax payer guide. Either FBR made a mistake or Pak Suzuki did. My bet is on Pak Suzuki since I am still waiting for an official explanation from Pak Suzuki. Their silence seems criminal.

[ShahnawazKhan1]

That was response to your post "For all those, who are objecting why Suzuki paid the sales tax in advance:"I don't know about others who booked prior to May. But my Sales Tax deposit was due by 15th July...

Bro, read these two articles together:

You missed the point.... This response was regarding below argument by you that Pak Suzuki was bound to submit sales tax by 30th June. No they weren't. Not for the cars which were booked during June 2021. Sales Tax was due by 15th July for these cars.

For all those, who are objecting why Suzuki paid the sales tax in advance:

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Source: https://www.fbr.gov.pk/sales-tax/131167/131269

[ShahnawazKhan1]

Or specific to your case, the cars that were booked in between 1st of June till 30th of June....

Thanks for understanding my point.

[ShahnawazKhan1]

The act was passed in 1990 that is why it is called The Sales Tax Act, 1990.

It is still enforced and keep getting amendments time to time. If you have any issue related to anything, then you will have to look at the law that was enforced during that timeperioed or tax year. I can't explain it in a layman language further anymore.

As far as "Amended" statement on Sales Tax ordinance is concerned, its obvious and you don't have to explain.
However I can explain the significance of tax payer guide in layman terms.
Tax payer guide is an official document, published and maintained by FBR for Tax Payers. FBR will have to address it and they cant simply mention that users should have consulted the sales tax ordinance instead of their guide. They will have to explain their stance either in favor or against Pak Suzuki on all legal forums. So this document is significant.

[ShahnawazKhan1]

lol. Grow up.

[ShahnawazKhan1]

Learn to relax Dear. You don't have to pick arguments and convince everyone.

You gave your expert opinion. Everybody heard you. It's their choice to pursue these cases, if they want to.

Let it go. Peace.

[nazeerawan1974]

I think suzuki paid u a hafty amount to defend their unjustified means, otherwise how a person can spare his time for others specially for a company..... a purely mafia

[nazeerawan1974]

U r might be right but question is still a need of answer that why ST paid in advance or by the way of law taken in advance or by quarterly by the government..... Is this justified.... laws are always based on the ground realities or common sense but this law is challangeable otherwise government may consider it in the best interest of masses

[nazeerawan1974]

I m not going to part of any legal practice to waste my time. I booked alto ags in 1640500 and received in 1589000... That is much for me. One thing if u clarify me that they delivered me car after lapse of 4 months... May I claim anything from Suzuki... ur opinion in this regard will be highly appreciated. Thanks .... Best of LUCK

[nazeerawan1974]

Thanks