Body building

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mehrozniazi1 (Mehroz Khan Niazi) 2010-08-11 18:37:41 +0500 #141

what?

awais.9 (awais Khalid ) 2010-08-11 19:05:33 +0500 #142

i was reffering to this post:
Going on a treadmill also helps getting warmed up. Running is the best mode to get one's body warmed up. Buy a punching bag instead of dumbells or barbells. It will make you gain more strength, explosiveness and stamina in lesser time.

mehrozniazi1 (Mehroz Khan Niazi) 2010-08-11 19:54:19 +0500 #143

if you can have 1..then its good otherwise no need.....have you started gym yet or not

enerlevel (enerlevel) 2010-08-11 20:03:01 +0500 #144

@poster
ok in weight training few injuries are very common.
1) wrist
2) shoulder join
3) back

these areas are very easily damaged and takes 4-5 months to recover.
i myself have had alot of injuries of wrist and shoulder joint.
thread mill will only warm u up, but will not open up ur joints to accept the heavy weights. there stretching , arms stretch , etc will help ur wrist and shoulder joints to open up b4 doing any exercise.

secondly i think u are too new for manual weights. try to do as much as machine training as u can. this way u will not have to balance urself thus saving urself from injuries due to wrong position and techniques

here is a shot of how i was 5 years ago....... and how i am now .....plz dont laugh

splfanatic (splfanatic) 2010-08-12 06:18:58 +0500 #145

@ kevin

Big time respect for that pic, and valuable advice (H) throughout the thread

@ temojin

golden words in a few post. Everybody should cling to them,

These guys gave us all the jist to gain and gain good.

@ chaudhary

ill help u interpret what they mean, and ill start again aswell. Fully pumped up after seeing kevins pic

mtx (mtx) 2010-08-12 08:05:05 +0500 #146

lol kevin should i attach more before & after pics? haahhaha

enerlevel (enerlevel) 2010-08-12 11:18:50 +0500 #147

lol i have already attached the pics beta.... lol
so poster keep working hard , u will one day become big

geforce (geforce) 2010-08-12 11:47:46 +0500 #148

damn , topic was going so serious but then LOLZZZZZZZ hahaha

@ Enerlevel , or anyone ( for dieting )
are fat burners in the form of pills or medicine
do they have side effects?
cause i am being worry about my tummy , damn whats wrong i avoid oil/ghee cooked food much , but i guess my metabolism process is too slow that it doesnt digest all food , so it becomes in the form of saturated fat over stomach

i am willing to have severe strong fat burner

awais.9 (awais Khalid ) 2010-08-12 11:48:09 +0500 #149

i guess then i'll start with machines again........
i was going to buy weights today but then didnt cox didnt knew how much to buy
1kg weight/piece was for 149rs
5kg dumbbell was for 949rs
just rod for 999rs
n just rod but bigger than previous one for 1300rs
n small rod(dumbbell one) was for 400rs

should i continue with push ups?as crams r not gone so i'll keep trying with push ups

@temojin
when should i take surbex Z
at sehri time or after iftaari?

@enerlevel
how many sets should i make of each exercise on machine?

awais.9 (awais Khalid ) 2010-08-12 12:38:18 +0500 #150

y dont u take out some time for jogging on daily basis instead

Temojin (Temojin) 2010-08-12 14:25:15 +0500 #151

Thanks mate. I am all in service for anyone who wants to get fit.

geforce (geforce) 2010-08-12 14:29:56 +0500 #152

i did it for 6 months , kuch hota hi nahi hai yaar farq hi nahi para itna

sial_ali (sial_ali) 2010-08-12 14:30:32 +0500 #153

@chaudhary 9 : brother start with basic excercises like push ups , pull ups ,chin ups....do pushups with good form (2secs up 2secs down) after sometime u will gain strenght and endurance

sial_ali (sial_ali) 2010-08-12 14:36:09 +0500 #154

avoid simple carbs , junk food

Temojin (Temojin) 2010-08-12 14:43:27 +0500 #155

@Geforce. Mate fat burners mainly contain caffeine and yohimbine as their main ingredients. If your family history contains heart issues, don't take any fat burners and if there has been a history of hypertension, take real precautions before taking them. Fat burners don't work till coupled with good workouts. My point of view is that at this age, you shouldn't go for any fat burners but work on your conditioning. You should do sprint training with speed work at the end. That will really take your metabolism to the next level and you will feel it within two weeks after starting it.
@Chaudhary, you should take surbex-Z at iftar time these days. Stretching is more than important during Ramadan because water depletion increases as a result of hot and humid weather now a days. A lot of water intake would really help. Don't buy any weights at the moment. Just strengthen your core and major muscle groups at the moment by push ups, chin ups/pull ups, planks, sprints, squats and sit ups. I am telling you a magic exercise today. If at all you need to spend some money on buying iron, buy a sledge hammer and a couple of old tires. The tires should be of some land cruiser or bigger. Just take your sledge hammer and start ramming those tired with all you have but beware of the recoil as it bounces back. Power jumps or jump squats are also of real help. Tell you an example. I and a friend of mine used to be partners at running. He has asthma and was around a 100 kg mark at around 6 feet of height. The first day, he ran out of breath after roughly 10 minutes and another person asked me to stop as my partner was almost on ground panting. Within a few months, he was so zealous about training that sometimes I used to sleep and he kept on banging the main gate till I got up and got out in my jogging attire. He was around 80kg mark within some months with a lot of solid muscle and then 78kgs. His asthma improved big time and his conditioning was superb. Persistence and zeal are the keys. We even went for running during ramadan taking a bottle of water each with ORS mixed in it and three dates each. Stopped whenever maghrib azaan started, ate those dates along with some sips of water and continued till we reached our destination where we drank the rest of water and had our prayers. We had around 4 kilometres of rice fields included in our track which we called "the steam bath" for we used to sweat ridiculously throughout those 4 kilometres and those were the months of July and August so if he could do it, you can do it big time. Our track was the railway line's side that passes along G.T road

enerlevel (enerlevel) 2010-08-12 15:46:09 +0500 #156

@geforce
apni halat dekh or fat burner chahiyai...... gayab hojayaiga ....
ur tummy is out because all u do is sit, drive , eat , sleep ... without any physical workout.
try to use ur abdominal muscles more and u will start to see changes soon.

i did it for 6 months , kuch hota hi nahi hai yaar farq hi nahi para itna
it took ur 22 years to be what u are right now!! u dont expect just 6 months to start phase changing ur body. give it some time dude. after all u took 22 years to be what u are right now!

@poster
3 sets of each workout. in total 12-15 sets a day.

FATBURNER

altho i have never tried it on myself, but this thing really does work. it has the power to bring to down from 110kg to 80kg (conditioned) in just 4 months.
my friend took it 4 months b4 the competition and i can really tell u this thing works.

but i recommend ppl to first start gyming and when u are in alot of size (MASS) then u take fat burners to shape up ur muscle. also u get alot of acne on ur face.

umair000 (umair000) 2010-08-12 16:30:07 +0500 #157

should i start work out at 15 like those tread mills or some more machines ? i am 5'5 will it effect my height :@

Temojin (Temojin) 2010-08-12 16:52:59 +0500 #158

Acne = Steroid usage (Your mate didn't tell you the secret :p)

Yohimbine and caffeine as a mixture don't give acne. Most of the supplements and I mean it, most of the supplements out there are only money making gimmicks like Telebrands. One can make a FACTORY at home in one room and use labels where they list ingredients with a secret matrix which are generally not revealed because the law of those states where these are made, allows them to do so. You can make an awesome pre workout supplement by just mixing some coffee, maltodextrin, a tablet of Bevidox and a tab of Fefolvit or simple tablet of folic acid mixed with creatine (optional).
Also anyone who wants to use fat burners should be ready for anxiety attacks because caffeine overload along with yohimbine which makes your heart race like anything makes one panic and when the effects ward off, your chemical receptors block the signals and thus make you panic. I once took an overdose of caffeine just to test and it made my legs like jelly along with ventricular fibrillation that occurred in a fashion which made me sit down before even starting a workout and that day was the hardest ever day in gym
People who say that they get palpitations and arrhythmia after taking any pre workout supplement or a fat burner should cut the dosage because the overload actually does it.

awais.9 (awais Khalid ) 2010-08-12 16:58:03 +0500 #159

TODAY'S ROUTINE:
today had one surbex Z after iftaari,then did 1hr walk n jog mix from 9:30 to 10:30(which covers up the cardio)....n did 5push ups,on 5th push up i was feeling all weight falling on my face then tried to do pull up but couldnt do even a single one,then tried chin up which i could do 1-2,then again tried push ups which i could do 6 this time....
then at 11:20 did exercises on machine
with weights of 20 or 30lbs,dont know if 1st one is considered or not, which can be seen in last pic(pics on 1st page)
1st exercise was pulling of above bar from middle(2nd pic),10 times per set,made 3 sets,took 10sec break in each set,n 30 sec break in each next exercise
2nd exercise was pulling the same bar from end,3sets....in the 3rd set in the end arms started to feel tired in this n next exercises
then 3rd exercise was pushing of handles at the bottom near the arms,can be seen in 2nd pic,3sets
4th exercise was pulling the handle in the feet(1st pic) by sitting infront of it not the seat,n back straight in each exercise
but these exercises took some 10-15min max.....is that enough?
now when 30min will pass then will have 3egg whites n mango shake

Temojin (Temojin) 2010-08-12 17:01:11 +0500 #160

If you start lifting heavy, it would effect your height. Our genetic make ups do play a vital role while determining one's height yet many other factors play their part. When a person sarts to lift heavy in a certain manner, the cartilage in joints tends to break down and then repair itself (in an easy language). This process then results in stronger but more calcified joints which effects the heads of bones resulting in slowing down or in quite some cases stoppage of growth. As we in Pakistan don't tend to have good diet at all, this too plays a vital role while working out. During teenage, especially the earlier phase of it, our bodies are growing at the fastest rates and need more nutrition so when we load our bodies with lifting heavy weights, the requirement of calories also gets higher which is scarcely met. Generally people give examples of Arnold or some other people that started working out at an early age but what they forget is that their genetic make ups were so superior in terms to height that had they not lifted heavy, they would've got 4-5 inches more. They then forget the fact too that the above mentioned people took steroids to the max along with enormous diets. Russians are very good gymnasts but the really practised gymnasts we see are generally short in height though the Russians mostly have a tendency to get well above 6 feet in heights. The lesser ones though gain their heights to some extent but that too because they haven't practiced so rigorously or have left the routines in between.
The best option for you at the moment would be running, sprinting, speed work, athletics and any type of sport along with an average amount of bodyweight exercises. If your genetics support a very good height tendency, then only you might go for more rigorous weight bearing or bodyweight training exercises.