Bravo by United motorcycle

[IceCold]

Things to note will be
1) Paint quality (Quaility of Mehran paint is pathetic)
2) Availability of routine parts such as air & oil filter ( mehran has it available on every coner)
3) Value for money (Mehran has zero value for money however it has a good resale and gives back the money invested after years of use)

Best of luck to United motors to bring in something for a change. From the looks car looks promising.

[anon35615524]

@Hitlersaab Aap Newbie hain, aur Umer ka Aakhri Hissa?

[ipkiji]

If the price is really near 6 lac and it is having same features as shown above then United Bravo will surely lift some eyebrows, but this is also reality that Low Price and Good Features are not the only Reason for a car to dominate the market, in my opinion it will take some time to capture market share, Suzuki Mehran is here since decades, it have almost every part localized with every available grade 1,2, or 3.. Then Dealership Network, Resale value, Parts availability, overall reliability, overall market repute and and branding also matters.
Suzuki Mehran ki Monopoly ko break kerna mushkil hai magar Namumkin nahi.

[IceCold]

Only VXR comes with AC as far as my limited knowledge goes.

[hash737]

The badge on the steering looks alright and same could be on the back and front. The big UNITED logo MAKES IT Look pathetic. Anythinf below or on 8 lakh will be a winner. But gents the problem here is WHAT engine id it and who have they copied to make its engine

[umairalizafar]

Usman Ansari @ Carspiritpk.com says it has same engine as of Mehran. That will mean that engine parts will be readily available.

Overall, the car is a rebadged Dahe DH350s, with gasoline engine. Dahe Motors makes small and cheap electric cars generally. The DH350s also came as a limited number with gasoline powered vehicles.

I think it should be priced below Mehran, otherwise all hope for the Pakistan auto industry will be lost. In my opinion, an ABS unit in place of the LCD/back camera and alloy rims would have been a more worthy addition. And yes, if it has an automatic transmission variant, that will make it an instant hit, as we don't have any automatic transmission new car available below the 1.5 million mark.

[IceCold]

Bhai yahan per log samna nazar ana wali cheez per jata hain jaisa ka lcd camera. Most people dont even know what Abs is or how useful it can be in case of emergency braking? Bravo going for lcd over lets say abs is a smart business strategy.

[danishmmh]

Any price over mehran and it is a list case

[anon35615524]

Yes and Totally agreed. But I hardly think that in PKR 6 Lac, they will offer even the base variant, keeping in mind the taxes and duties structure here, otherwise if they do; then quality of their vehicle may be a big question mark.
FAW V2 also offers low price and good features, but people are buying it, not because of its features or low price, but due to the fact that; they have no other options! And FAW V2 is the best bargain and value for money.
Regarding Suzuki Mehran and its Monopoly, all the points are absolutely correct, however, a lot depends on people as well, jo "resale resale resale" sey bahir hi nai aatay (may be including myself).
Hum gari baad mein laitay hain and resale ka pehlay sochtay hain, and because of this mindset and mentality, we are never able to enjoy a good ride... quality ride...!

[anon35615524]

Yes and I think, details are available on following link. Unfortunately, I am unable to open the link on Chrome, Firefox and IE. If someone could open it and go through its details / specifications, kindly share:
http://en.daheev.com/products_detail/productId=29.html
And yes, if the parent company does not offer AT, then in no way, United Motors are gonna offer AT trim in United Bravo.

[talhabinaslam]

Personally i believe, they will offer it around 8lacs and at this price tag atleast the company should give a very sound quality, (atleast similar to faw V2) air-condition, and airbags which i seriously doubt after looking at pictures. To be successful they should bear in mind that the new companies are entering in the market and sooner cars like datsun-go may give them a tough competition. Mehran anyhow is now in its grave. So no need to compete with it

[ashbal]

Also launching a pick up under the name of panjnad same as suzuki ravi and maybe something like bolan aswell
Price will be around 600k for this bravo

[Massive_One]

Regarding Suzuki Mehran and its Monopoly, all the points are absolutely correct, however, a lot depends on people as well, jo "resale resale resale" sey bahir hi nai aatay (may be including myself).Hum gari baad mein laitay hain and resale ka pehlay sochtay hain, and because of this mindset and mentality, we are never able to enjoy a good ride... quality ride...!

My dear, Mehran usually caters the middle and lower middle class, they would obviously want to bet their money on the safest option. They know it would take a lifetime for them to gather this much money again; hence, the resale factor. So at least they can have enough money after selling their car after some time that they can think about upgrading to a little better option. Ride quality/ABS/EPS blah blah.. all this crap often doesn't matter to the ppl who are upgrading from bike after gathering just enough money to buy a car, high resale and low repair cost matters the most.

[IceCold]

My dear, Mehran usually caters the middle and lower middle class, they would obviously want to bet their money on the safest option. They know it would take a lifetime for them to gather this much money again; hence, the resale factor. So at least they can have enough money after selling their car after some time that they can think about upgrading to a little better option. Ride quality/ABS/EPS blah blah.. all this crap often doesn't matter to the ppl who are upgrading from bike after gathering just enough money to buy a car, high resale and low repair cost matters the most.

Well put. I have a mehran and despite the fact that i hate the car to my guts, i would still keep it knowing that whenever i sell it, i will get my money back. So till the time i or people like myself can get a similar assurance from other car makers, we will not just throw away our money on new products.
I also have a united motorcycle and well their motorcycle quality literally sucks. I hope they dont share the same standards in their car and can actually deliver on this front along with after sale support.

[umairalizafar]

The catch 22 here is that if the people start purchasing newer technology/better cars, overlooking the resale, they will get the best of both worlds, there will be resale, and better ride quality. The thinking which makes them buy the same old cars again and again is the thinking which gets them killed in a crash or keeps them stuck on decades old technology with a not-so-good build quality. I think this mindset of buying cars for the value they provide is getting traction, and there are people who go for value for money cars. Hopefully, in some years, this thinking will prevail and we will get out of this resale mindset. However, cheap maintenance needs to be provided for the value for money options in any case, if they are to get any traction even in that case.

[nickatnite]

This reminds me of the Adam Revo story a decade back. The more things change they stay the same ?

[salmanshah1]

Don't compare with Adam because that was made in Pakistan and bravo is made in china.
If price is lower than mehran then bravo have a better chance against mehran.

[hash737]

you got a good memory nick....i fear the history might repeat....

[umairalizafar]

You are right, it can end up like the Revo. That was also cheaper than the Mehran, but could not get much market share. I hope United will have learnt from Adam motors' mistakes and won't repeat them.

[mfdarvesh]

Failure of Adam Revo was again a long story, this link will explain every thing in detail, what happened with Revo and its owner Feroz Khan.

The main thing, Adam was unable to deliver on time (it took nine months to deliver 1st unit after full payment). Again Govt did not support this local car and fact we all know.

Hopes were still alive with Mr Khan.

Lets good luck to United, they are successful in 2 Wheeler market and may know the mentality of our nation.