Buying from amazon possible in Pakistan?

[hwaleed]

i see. use stackry then. and USPS is only recommended for light packages. max 2kg. i read about them online. and people say service is poor for heavier ones.

Check with them. Its better than guessing. Share the knowledge afterwards.

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Can you guys tell me from where i obtain a full list of custom charges means custom on specific product.

[pkship]

Can you guys tell me from where i obtain a full list of custom charges means custom on specific product.

This is the customs duty schedule for 2015-16.

http://download1.fbr.gov.pk/Docs/20157101374641856Reupdated5thScheduleandCUSTOMTariff.pdf

[TechMan]

The reason why custom guys charge so much is because they are "harami".

جب ساری زندگی حرام کھایا ہو تو ایسا ہی ہوتا ہے

Look I don't mind paying custom duty but it should be CONSISTENT which is where our custom guys fail miserably.

By the way is there any duty on cosmetic items like lipstick, nail polish, body lotion etc.?

[bym007]

By the way is there any duty on cosmetic items like lipstick, nail polish, body lotion etc.?

It seems that anything and everything can be charged. It depends on their mood at the moment.

[vtecyo]

As i told total value of 5 products were $192 and i declared 20% less.Shipito asked total value of products for Custom declaration which i mentioned $154 but let's consider DHL had known the original value by somehow which is $192 then still custom becomes 3000 rupees something according to Pakistan Custom Tariff but why DHL did this?

Ur order was considered commercial because of the value and thus the large amount of custom charges. try to order items individually or declare them as gift.

[bym007]

Ur order was considered commercial because of the value and thus the large amount of custom charges. try to order items individually or declare them as gift.

It is very stupid to count $192 as commercial. Usually customs consider $1000 or above to be commercial (eg above $1000 in Australia), or have a fixed duty rate for all items (20% in UK).

Rule of the jungle!

[bym007]

Placed an order this morning with AutoGeek.

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[hwaleed]

The reason why custom guys charge so much is because they are "harami".

جب ساری زندگی حرام کھایا ہو تو ایسا ہی ہوتا ہے

Look I don't mind paying custom duty but it should be CONSISTENT which is where our custom guys fail miserably.

By the way is there any duty on cosmetic items like lipstick, nail polish, body lotion etc.?

I agree with you brother i call them and tell them that according to Pakistan Custom Tariff 2016 list my items applied for 5% and one scanner applied for 10% custom but it seems like i'm talking to a brick wall.

Ur order was considered commercial because of the value and thus the large amount of custom charges. try to order items individually or declare them as gift.

Do you have any advice how to avoid such thing in my next order? And Is there any custom applied on Clothes??

[bym007]

I agree with you brother i call them and tell them that according to Pakistan Custom Tariff 2016 list my items applied for 5% and one scanner applied for 10% custom but it seems like i'm talking to a brick wall.

Sorry, what was their response exactly ?

[hwaleed]

Sorry, what was their response exactly ?

When i call they gave me import tax department number because they don't know about it.After calling DHL import tax department they start talking about so many strange taxes like government tax,warehouse tax,weight tax blah blah.

[bym007]

When i call they gave me import tax department number because they don't know about it.After calling DHL import tax department they start talking about so many strange taxes like government tax,warehouse tax,weight tax blah blah.

If you can get something from them on paper, it may be something. Else I guess its all hot air. Try and make some friends in an Int'l courier like DHL, Fedex and then use their service exclusively. [emoji12]

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[asifseemab]

Guys,

It looks like nobody exactly know the customs duties & Import Taxes. Let me explain how it works:

Product's Invoice Price XXX
Frieght XXX
A: C&F Value XXX
Customs duty @ 2%-20%% on C&F XXX
B: C&F + Customs Duty XXX
Sales Tax (17%+3%) @ B XXX
C: Total XXX
Income tax @6% @ C XXX
Gowdown & CAA Rent etc XXX
Total Cost XXX

Following is the link to Customs duties schedule 2015-2016:

http://download1.fbr.gov.pk/Docs/20157101374641856Reupdated5thScheduleandCUSTOMTariff.pdf

As per this schedule duty on clothing, shoes & cosmetics is 20% and on books & computer & related accessories is 2%.Note: Keep it in mind that the above mentioned sales tax & Income tax are adjustable if you're a commercial importer or retailer.Govt deducts these Sales Tax & Income Tax in advance because retailers don't pay these taxes once they have imported into Pakistan. So Govt planned to deduct at import stage.

[bym007]

Guys,

It looks like nobody exactly know the customs duties & Import Taxes. Let me explain how it works:

Product's Invoice Price XXX
Frieght XXX
A: C&F Value XXX
Customs duty @ 2%-20%% on C&F XXX
B: C&F + Customs Duty XXX
Sales Tax (17%+3%) @ B XXX
C: Total XXX
Income tax @6% @ C XXX
Gowdown & CAA Rent etc XXX
Total Cost XXX

Following is the link to Customs duties schedule 2015-2016:

http://download1.fbr.gov.pk/Docs/20157101374641856Reupdated5thScheduleandCUSTOMTariff.pdf

As per this schedule duty on clothing, shoes & cosmetics is 20% and on books & computer & related accessories is 2%.Note: Keep it in mind that the above mentioned sales tax & Income tax are adjustable if you're a commercial importer or retailer.Govt deducts these Sales Tax & Income Tax in advance because retailers don't pay these taxes once they have imported into Pakistan. So Govt planned to deduct at import stage.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the custom duties still look way off?

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[asifseemab]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the custom duties still look way off?

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You're right but this is what it is. There is a reason why Amazon does not deliver in Pakistan. Even if Amazon comes in Pakistan, the customs duties & import taxes will remain same and will hit its business.

[bym007]

You're right but this is what it is. There is a reason why Amazon does not deliver in Pakistan. Even if Amazon comes in Pakistan, the customs duties & import taxes will remain same and will hit its business.

I checked the DHL receipt and it seems the local management is making something on the side from the import business. My father used to work in cargo (air, sea and land), so he used to tell us the stories from custom brokers all the time.

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[asifseemab]

Whenever you import through these companies, always ask Bill of Entry (BoE). BoE is a paper where you can see all the duties & taxes.

[bym007]

Whenever you import through these companies, always ask Bill of Entry (BoE). BoE is a paper where you can see all the duties & taxes.

So who has thr authority to issue the BoE, DHL or Pak Customs in this situation?

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[asifseemab]

BoE is prepare by DHL based on the information received from customs. It matches cent by cent with Customs record. Because in case of commercial importer or retailer the Sales tax & Income tax mentioned on BoE should match with the customs otherwise the importer/retailer can't claim it. So DHL can't take any risk by putting any number to their customers.

Claiming Sales tax is very much systematic in Pakistan NOW! The amount that an importer claim is already appearing in Govt's system (that they captured at import stage) so there is no chance that DHL will play with Sales Tax/Income tax/Duties at import stage.

If you ask for BoE, each & every shipments can be seen separately where you can see the following information:

1. Value for Customs
2. Duty %
3. Duty Amount
4. Sales tax %
5. Sales tax Amount
6. Income Tax Amount

The only thing that is missing from BoE is the CAA charges and Godown rent that DHL charge to customer proportionately based on weight or dimensions because DHL pays this amount lumsump to CAA/Customs.

[vtecyo]

I agree with you brother i call them and tell them that according to Pakistan Custom Tariff 2016 list my items applied for 5% and one scanner applied for 10% custom but it seems like i'm talking to a brick wall.

Do you have any advice how to avoid such thing in my next order? And Is there any custom applied on Clothes??

I will tell u about my experience. Pakistan Post in my experience dont add custom charges too much and other private companies add custom charges alot. And yes clothing items pay b custom parhta hai, i recently ordered from Next UK clothing worth $200 and mujay Rs10,000 ki duty daal di(DHL) but Next UK was kind enough to return my order and refund me.

I before that ordered from Next Uk but the items were around $70 and at that time it was handled by Pakistan POST so postman just asked me Rs20 lol so keep the order below $100 i guess because custom department in Pakistan is in British RAJ times still.

[bym007]

BoE is prepare by DHL based on the information received from customs. It matches cent by cent with Customs record. Because in case of commercial importer or retailer the Sales tax & Income tax mentioned on BoE should match with the customs otherwise the importer/retailer can't claim it. So DHL can't take any risk by putting any number to their customers.

Claiming Sales tax is very much systematic in Pakistan NOW! The amount that an importer claim is already appearing in Govt's system (that they captured at import stage) so there is no chance that DHL will play with Sales Tax/Income tax/Duties at import stage.

If you ask for BoE, each & every shipments can be seen separately where you can see the following information:

1. Value for Customs
2. Duty %
3. Duty Amount
4. Sales tax %
5. Sales tax Amount
6. Income Tax Amount

The only thing that is missing from BoE is the CAA charges and Godown rent that DHL charge to customer proportionately based on weight or dimensions because DHL pays this amount lumsump to CAA/Customs.

I think you have added real value to our discussion with your insight on the taxation issues asifseemab.

Using the BOE, people can really see whats going on.

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