Can't seem to decide between Revo 2021 or Fortuner sigma 2019

[l154563]

Salam members. I'm stuck between these two choices. Someone I know is selling these two vehicles. However, the mileage seems to be a big issue for me. I'm not sure if mileage can affect a car's performance, so I'm open to ideas and suggestions.

Fortuner has been driven 150k+ and it has mostly been used in construction sites(Travelling to those areas). The car is in good condition in terms of appearance. I'm not sure if is something I should buy. The owner instead told me to buy Revo 2021(V variant) driven 60k mostly on motorways. My use would be only within the city and rarely traveling to hilly areas. Is Fortuner a good buy or will I face trouble in terms of maintenance? I would really appreciate the help. What should I look for in both vehicles?

[mabs239]

When considering buying a used vehicle, mileage is definitely an important factor to consider. Generally, the higher the mileage, the more wear and tear the car has experienced, which can affect its performance, reliability, and longevity. However, there are other factors to consider as well, such as the condition of the car and how well it has been maintained.

In the case of the Fortuner that has been driven 150k+ and used in construction sites, it may have experienced a lot of wear and tear on its suspension and undercarriage due to rough terrain and heavy loads. This could potentially lead to issues with the car's performance and maintenance in the long run. On the other hand, the Revo 2021 with 60k mostly on motorways may be a better option for city use, as it has been driven less and likely experienced less wear and tear.

When inspecting the Fortuner and Revo, it's important to look for signs of wear and tear, such as rust, leaks, and damage to the body and interior. It's also a good idea to take both vehicles for a test drive to assess their performance, handling, and comfort. Additionally, ask the seller about the car's maintenance history and if it has undergone any major repairs or replacements.

Ultimately, it's up to you to weigh the pros and cons of each option and decide which one fits your needs and budget. If you're unsure about the condition of the Fortuner or have concerns about its maintenance, it may be a safer choice to go with the Revo.

[JunaidDogar]

My vote is for Fortuner, get it inspected from a reliable Toyota dealership or a trusted mechanic before buying.

BTW what is the price difference of both vehicles being offered?

[l154563]

Around a million. How much does Toyota charge for inspection? Is it any reliable? I bought corolla from toyota sure which was inspected by them and later found out that it had been in a major accident causing issues with chassis and suspension. I doubt their service though.

[l154563]

Thank you so much for the detailed response. I have never driven a diesel vehicle before so I'm not really sure on what to expect in terms of test drive. What kind of wear and tear should I look for? Given that there is a difference of a million among both vehicles, for some reason I find the fortuner a little more value to money. A friend of mine told me that the major cost I can incur for fortuner might be the replacement of fuel injectors and tyres which can cost somewhere around 500-600k. Although, he said that fuel injectors are mostly serviced and cleaned instead of replacement depending upon the condition. What other things should I check before buying this vehicle? I'll be taking a test drive of both the vehicles over the weekend. Since I know the owner of both the vehicles, the car is having the exact mileage without any meter tampering. I was told that the same vehicles will be sold over some showroom and it would have the meter tampered. It can be very hard to identify a vehicle with meter tampering so atleast I know that I'm buying from a trusted seller. Mileage is not a big factor for me, but again I've never driven any car above 50k so my experience is very limited. My annual usage is somewhere around 10-12k kms.

[salman_w]

I have the same experience with toyota.

[salman_w]

I would suggest to keep the mileage in mind too. If you drive the vehicle 50-60k then it will be a 200k car. Will you be mentally satisfied ?
These diesel cars can last pretty long (not sure about 1GD) because its aluminium block and still relatively new in the local market. The old iron block diesels can go upto 4-6 lack kms easily provided regular maintenance is not skipped.
Moreover, you will not roll the meter back but most cars have them rolled back. That would cost you in the long run.
If you do not care about resale or high mileage then Fortuner seems a good option. Better for hauling family around than revo for sure.
I have a 2017 Revo and looking to move to a newer model revo but either face lift one or a 1GD fortuner but below 1lack mileage in a couple of years.

[JunaidDogar]

which city are you located in?

[l154563]

Lahore

[l154563]

Do you think this is a good time to buy? Since the dollar is depreciating, I'm not sure but maybe toyota would revise their prices sooner or later. This will definitely impact the used car market too. I tried Fortuner, and it does have a rattling noise, whereas the Revo is good in terms of looks and drive. Although 60k for 2021 model still seems high, but given that the meter hasn't been reversed i know atleast im not getting scammed. Still can't seem to make up my mind. How much should be the ideal cost of Revo V (July 2021) Lahore?

[salman_w]

Brother, In pakistan if the prices come down they won't come down much may be 3-4 lakh max on 13-14lakh increase. in the long run you will benefit. Delaying purchasing has no guarantees of price decrease either. Atm there is negligible car production so after market is all one has. Pakistan has to curb imports and the LCs will continue to face issues in future being released so i do not think prices will come down much. Also petrol has to touch 300 and that will impact everything as well.
I am not sure what you mean by looks, Is it scratched or roughly used? or you just do not like aesthetics of revo? Unless you are getting an amazing deal do not go on just the appearance. These cars are very high so body rarely gets damaged.

[JunaidDogar]

you can take the vehicles to a few reputed workshops in Lahore for inspection. DM me I will provide details.

[l154563]

Thanks for the input. It turns out it was registered in 2021, but the model is 2020. This also means that the car comes with pre-face lift headlights and a rear air conditioner with an outdated 7-inch infotainment display. I did test drive the car, and felt a back pain. Not sure if this is due to my inexperience with driving a hilux revo. I think I got a similar feeling when I started driving Civic but later didn't feel anything odd. Anyways, the car has minor damage like an other vehicle which runs in the city. A scratch on the rear bumper body(not the rail), and a dent on fender at the front. The tyres were worn out which means that this would be my immediate expense after buying. Overall, I felt good about the vehicle and the buyer also agreed that he could consider a deal where I could swap my 2021 civic x with extra cost. This would save me the hassle of selling my car. The token tax wasn't paid but he agreed that he would clear out all dues before selling. I asked him about the maintenance to which he replied that the car has been maintained by INH Motors and at times from dealership. Now it all boils down to the price. I really wanted to buy a new vehicle but since I'm having limited cash and booking isn't open, I'll stick to buying used one. My annual mileage is somewhere around 10,000km so diesel cost doesn't really affect me. The average of hilux is close to Civic so more or less, I'll be spending the same amount of money. The buyer is asking for 95 lac which seems high for the model and mileage though. Although he said that it was negotiable and he was willing to buy my civic X (2021 model 10k Driven only).

[salman_w]

I wonder, why is he selling the Hilux in the first place. Selling fortuner due to mileage is understandable. I would still recommend you to do a pre purchase inspection before getting the car or agreeing to something. The back pain thing can occur but i shifted from a corolla and daily drove my revo for more than a year. Hilux has 6 way auto driver seat so learning your desired positioning helps with comfort (keep a soft cushion under seat as well if need be only to get used to). I raise the seat almost all the way as i like to sit up high and then hilux seats become a chair so one can get comfortable. After daily driving hilux i feel claustrophobic and vulnerable in a car. I love driving the Hilux. I recently got a small 660 to go to office etc and hilux is now a secondary car. This is due to parking issues and maneuverability in city.
My car is a bit less bouncy due to thai shocks and front end lift but agri auto shocks (stock pakistani shocks) are too hard. There is a world of aftermarket available for these cars (shocks and accessories) and you can customize. I don't think you will get bored of it easily. I also suggest to visit pakwheels and see the selling value of 2020 hiluxes and then decide buying price.
I personally would not get a fortuner due to mileage.

[l154563]

There is a personal reason due to which he is selling. His main motive is to buy a civic and a small car instead of keeping one hilux. I think you're probably right about adjusting the seat. I'll probably get another test drive so that I can have a good idea of the vehicle. How much do shocks generally cost? You said you had thai shocks. Mainly there is a huge market that sells Kabli shocks but again I'll probably need to research on it. I checked the price of getting it facelifted to Rocco and the estimate came somewhere around 190k. The tyre replacement would cost 160k. I personally don't like the Pakwheels app in terms of selling as there is a range of seller who demand an exorbitantly high price than the market, most of which are dealers. On top of that, the market these days isn't really much active. The cost of new hilux listed was around 140lac which seems pretty high as there is registration cost on top of it. There are vehicles which were invoiced in September and October 2021 and they haven't been sold yet. I think I'll think hard before making a decision as I'm pretty happy with Civic but just wanted to try a 4x4 as I never had one.

[JunaidDogar]

you will definitely enjoy it, 1GD is pure love with a soothing turbo sound.

As for the comfort you will get used to it in the front seat but rear seats are really uncomfortable specially for long drives.

[salman_w]

There is a personal reason due to which he is selling. His main motive is to buy a civic and a small car instead of keeping one hilux. I think you're probably right about adjusting the seat. I'll probably get another test drive so that I can have a good idea of the vehicle. How much do shocks generally cost? You said you had thai shocks. Mainly there is a huge market that sells Kabli shocks but again I'll probably need to research on it. I checked the price of getting it facelifted to Rocco and the estimate came somewhere around 190k. The tyre replacement would cost 160k. I personally don't like the Pakwheels app in terms of selling as there is a range of seller who demand an exorbitantly high price than the market, most of which are dealers. On top of that, the market these days isn't really much active. The cost of new hilux listed was around 140lac which seems pretty high as there is registration cost on top of it. There are vehicles which were invoiced in September and October 2021 and they haven't been sold yet. I think I'll think hard before making a decision as I'm pretty happy with Civic but just wanted to try a 4x4 as I never had one.

Shocks can cost from 150k to 200k. There is a second hand market for these as well. check ADz performance. Extreme 4x4 is another shop to check out in Karachi they ship all over pakistan. In 2016 dec hiluxes, due to lack of localization toyota was using Thai shocks so i got lucky. You can get thai shocks in kabli market as well.
As far as researching cars on Pakwheels is concerned you can set the perimeter as (low to high price) and quote the lowest good looking price to negotiate.

[capsat]

My use would be only within the city and rarely traveling to hilly areas. Is Fortuner a good buy or will I face trouble in terms of maintenance? I would really appreciate the help. What should I look for in both vehicles?

one is a truck with loading bed, seriously uncomfortable for family excursion. Other is a 5 door SUV with enough space for luggage. Make wise choice to invest the monies.

look at both pics and figure out which one has more utility for you

Toyota parts are available across Pakistan. In terms of maintenance you shall obtain the previous log from owner, and do the replenishments of what has been ignored or coming to age soon.