Car Care and Detailing Dreams (Part 2)

[bym007]

OK yesterday I brought turtle hardshell wax now I need to know how to use it as I read some online reviews and it says panel by panel because if u put it all then removing it is really a pain @ahmedyar bhai shed some light on it

Panel by panel is always a good approach, as it allows you to wipe off the excess before it gets too dried up.

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[husnainkhan]

Guys, there should be an extra thread for interior detailing. We all talk about exterior working only. There should be some guidance over interior detailing as well..

Bhai logon there's this term "diversification" that you can apply in your detailing industry and give some attentiob to interior detailing aswell which tends to have longer live than exterior detailing

[sheharyarali91]

This problem wasn't there when I got the car, but has slowly developed and now in this state. Although it isn't blocking the light but looks hideous to a person like me. You mean that I have to take out the headlights for a complete job right? and I'll be very thankful if you share the video

I know it's strangge but it wasn't there the time I bought the car last year.

This problem is not there with my 9 years old Lancer but don't know why it happened to the Prius.

Sir Thanks a bunch for the detailed reply! Would Meguiar's headlight restoration kit do the job? Or if I use UC then which sealant would you recommend and how long will the sealant last?

Do you know anyone who can do this job well without messing up these expensive headlights?

It's there in the Headlight Restoration Kit, so should I go for it?
http://www.meguiars.com/en/automotive/products/g3000-heavy-duty-headlight-restoration-kit/

Np bro. As far as Meguiars headlight restoration kit is concerned, I wouldn't recommend u, as the haze is not that bad. What I think is, it is used for heavily oxidized headlamps. You don't need such an abrasive thing for minor haze, Meguiar's ultimate compound will work best. As it does not have a very big bite, as compared to other compounds. The sealant available with me was Klasse Sealant Glaze, I put 2 coats of it, and I think it would last a year. But as it is not available easily you can always use "Chemical Guys Jetseal". It will also last a year. If after using ultimate compound u still feel that the headlight are hazy, buy one 1000 grit sandpaper, wetsand the headlights, use 2000 grit paper and after that finish with 3000 grit paper and use UC to remove that sanding marks and ur headlights would be good as new.

[sheharyarali91]

OK yesterday I brought turtle hardshell wax now I need to know how to use it as I read some online reviews and it says panel by panel because if u put it all then removing it is really a pain @ahmedyar bhai shed some light on it

Bro don't wax it in direct sunlight or on a hot surface. Mist the applicator with a little bit of detailer spray. Start panel by panel and apply really thin wax (Always remember wax should be applied thin, in this way the product will last long and would be easier to remove). Let it haze for a minute than remove it, InshAllah you'll have no problem in removing it.

[omer91]

Any drawbacks of this desi totka?
Which brand should I use? Colgate or something else? And more specifically how do i do it?

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No drawbacks !
I prefer colgate the white one n use sealant after treatment !
If u wana try the totka.

[MADDYBOY]

yahan tu glass coating karna kafi mushkil ha

[altisdualvvti]

Bro don't wax it in direct sunlight or on a hot surface. Mist the applicator with a little bit of detailer spray. Start panel by panel and apply really thin wax (Always remember wax should be applied thin, in this way the product will last long and would be easier to remove). Let it haze for a minute than remove it, InshAllah you'll have no problem in removing it.

Thanks bro actually I was using formula 1 yellow box previously and I apply it on full bike and then remove it in that way it is really hard to remove so that's why asking but I have 1 confusion that u r saying that don't apply turtle wax on direct sun light and the can of wax also says same but formula one can says that for best results apply it in direct sunlight why is so?

[altisdualvvti]

Panel by panel is always a good approach, as it allows you to wipe off the excess before it gets too dried up.

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OK then I will do panel by panel thanks

[Talhadon]

@Talhadon

Zxmco gave good reply..

My few cents

I recon Rosa with cutting pad..and zxmco is ride jab katna hoo tu cutting pad use karo 

Always use polish after any swirl removing product if you want to use one go for ultimate polish..and yes zxmco is rite 205 is good product if you are looking for some shopping

For metallic paint in affordable price try mother's glaze otherwise you can more goour for more meetha  and for single stage paint MMG#7 is good.

Thanks for replies Experts ...

Okay means you recommend 3m Rosra over Ultimate polish ?
Hmm .... But i think it should be applied with polishing pad because we are going with cutting pad before this step with compound ?

Other query ... Liquid Sealent like auto finesse one should be applied by which pad via polisher ?

And the Last one .... What is the use of 3m finesse it - finishing material and which pad to use with it via polisher ?

[AusI]

Here are some of my queries :-

In which circumstances a detailer have to use cutting pads while doing compounds ?

3m Rosra/Polish vs Megs ultimate polish ? Which one is better ?

If swirls remover X and ultimate polish removes swirls than whats the diff between both ? Ultimate polish is mild abrasive ,Same goes with swirls removal X ?

Which Glaze to use on car for giving it a show car shine with even any MILD cutting ? I mean it should fill up swirls and hide un-necessary ones without getting abrasive ?

Would hope to hear from experts soon

1. The combination of a cutting pad with a compound really depends on the condition of the paint. Deep swirls or after wetsanding for orange peel are classic examples. Most swrils on cars can be removed by a good polishing pad and a polish/compound. One usually does not need to go to the combo of compund and a cutting pad UNLESS you are dealing with really hard clear coats like that of Mercedes Benz which are a pain at times.

2. Different polishes are more of a personal choice for most people. Its not just the polish that matters, its the pad, polisher, surface (plastic vs metal vs carbon fiber etc) which matter.

3. In order of abrasivness. This is just my personal experience and from what I remember.

UC > Scratch X > UP

1. If you are looking at the Megs line on a clear coat, UP does a great job at filling and removing swirls that might have been left behind by a compound like UC. You dont really need to go to anything else. On this forum the Megs Mirror Glaze #7 (which is a pure polish, no abrasive at all) is very popular. There are many other alternatives to the same in Cheminal guys, Wolfgang, etc etc..

Hope this helps.

[aliusman420]

No drawbacks !
I prefer colgate the white one n use sealant after treatment !
If u wana try the totka.

Let's do this then!
Should I apply it by hand or mf cloth?

[aliusman420]

Np bro. As far as Meguiars headlight restoration kit is concerned, I wouldn't recommend u, as the haze is not that bad. What I think is, it is used for heavily oxidized headlamps. You don't need such an abrasive thing for minor haze, Meguiar's ultimate compound will work best. As it does not have a very big bite, as compared to other compounds. The sealant available with me was Klasse Sealant Glaze, I put 2 coats of it, and I think it would last a year. But as it is not available easily you can always use "Chemical Guys Jetseal". It will also last a year. If after using ultimate compound u still feel that the headlight are hazy, buy one 1000 grit sandpaper, wetsand the headlights, use 2000 grit paper and after that finish with 3000 grit paper and use UC to remove that sanding marks and ur headlights would be good as new.

I think I should visit a pro detailer to cure this issue otherwise I might mess things up.
Bhaiyon jo jo Islamabad se hain please reply back karain

[aliusman420]

This is happening coz these lights were already restored by showroom dealer or seller u bought it using that steel scrapper to remove the upper layer of plastic and making it crystal clear for year at max .... This is very common in pakistan .... I suggest u to go again for the same treatment .... And apply wax or sealant regularly afterwards

It doesn't look like that it has been scraped on or restored by such a harsh treatment, can it be dried out wax? because when finger is wiped hard on this the haze dilutes to an extent.

[AusI]

Let's do this then!
Should I apply it by hand or mf cloth?

Saw your query just now and you have gotten a lot of advice but here is my two cents. The problem you have would most likely take a few hours to take out by using toothpaste and that too would be very uneven. If you are adamant on trying it and giving your muscles a good exercise, use a MF cloth for it. You have a nice car, an investment in a headlight cleaner kit is a very sensible one. You can always use it once or twice and then sell it to someone in need for a lesser price, that way you can save money.

The lights you have are polycarbonate and it is very different from a metallic clear coat. When applying Ultimate compound you will leave behind swirls and scratches. Follow that up with something like Ultimate polish and then clean with 15% IPA and then apply a dedicated plastic sealant (available from Megs, pinnacle, WG, etc) or use permanent coating like Opti-Coat. The IPA helps remove any oils in UC or UP that will prevent good bonding with the surface.

Hope this helps.

[AusI]

I personally go with cutting pad usage when customer needs to get rid from swirls. Most of the time the new owner of used car ask about to remove them.

I have used megs 205 polish yet. It gives awesome result. I also did experiment some time.. like usage of cutting pad for polishing. To check the difference. But u asked diff of swirl x and ultimate. I think both are same its just marketing tact

There is quite a difference with the M105+M205 vs UC+UP. In a body shop environment there is no question - M105/M205 all the way as UC and UP are not body shop safe.

For the casual user working via D/A, UC is much more user friendly in that it creates far less dust and offers a longer buffing cycle. Remember, M105 was primarily designed for use with a rotary buffer and wool pad to remove sanding marks from fresh paint. If you're working by hand it's sort of a toss up, but M105 can provide more cut than UC this way.

M205 vs UP is a slightly more closer call, though the M205 IS DEF more aggressive than UP, so you will achieve better correction(with the correct pad) that with UP. For the very same reason the M205 has a learning curve, though for the casual user the difference might not be visible when using by hand.

[sheharyarali91]

Thanks bro actually I was using formula 1 yellow box previously and I apply it on full bike and then remove it in that way it is really hard to remove so that's why asking but I have 1 confusion that u r saying that don't apply turtle wax on direct sun light and the can of wax also says same but formula one can says that for best results apply it in direct sunlight why is so?

Every wax has its own requirement. Generally most of them are required to be used on a cool surface or under a shade. The best method is to follow what the manufacturer say.

[altisdualvvti]

Every wax has its own requirement. Generally most of them are required to be used on a cool surface or under a shade. The best method is to follow what the manufacturer say.

Right will post the results here after waxing

[omer91]

Dc wax beads really gud !!

[vacaskhan]

Dc wax beads really gud !!

very nice bro..

[Crazy_Rider1]

Aoa, Mujhe ap logon ki kuch madad chaye thi, meri car ki body per deep scratches the jinko cover karwane ke liye mere driver ne kalam lagwai lekin kalam match nahi huwi, iska kuch hal hai sahi karne ka? Color match karne ke liye bina repaint karwaye?

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fill them up with matched colour paint ,wet sand then compound they will mitigate InshAllah