Car Care and Detailing Dreams

[stingray]

@tayyabchaudhary
Im always glad to share knowledge regarding different sorts of problems, keeps me in good shape too (knowledge wise) coz for lots of things i have to google up certain ifs n buts on issues. The best tip that i have in my vault is , "Get ur paint into as perfect a shape as u can, corrections will be required, then onward PREVENTION is the key". And prevention includes ur daily cleaning, weekly cleaning, monthly and 3 monthly session, HOW is the big question here. This relates to the type of microfibres, applicators, environment, products and techniques u use. A general belief through out the world is that products will only be as good as the cleanliness level of the microfibres and applicators that get used during the process i.e there shudnt be ANY residue in them from previous detailing sessions and that my friend is a PAIN to achieve after every session.

@bad-cheetah
Ultimate compound is more abrasive but still clear coat safe n yes from the looks of ur car it seems its more in need of ultimate compound. The ultimate polish is a new introduction by meguiars and i havent used it till yet so i can only go by the reviews ive read about it online. What meguiars claims is that its definitely abrasive enough to give u good polishing action stil bein clear coat safe which means that its got lower cutting power than the ultimate compound, so use it first and if u dont get the desired results then use the ultimate compound.

The 3 step contains the de-waxer(not abrasive), the sealer and glaze (very minor abrasive) and the carnauba wax (not abrasive) so its going to cost more and do less, what u need is somethin that can give u enough (just enough not more) cutting to get rid of those swirls. Its a hit n trial thing (within safe limits of course) that will land u with best results. Based on experience i'll tell u that ultimate compound is one of the best correction products i have ever used in combination with the supreme shine microfibre towel. The availability, i just cant say anything abt lahore coz ive never bought detailing stuff there but, maybe the saca auto on montgomery road do stock it or mekro might as well. take care.

[Bad_Cheetah]

@tayyabchaudhary
Im always glad to share knowledge regarding different sorts of problems, keeps me in good shape too (knowledge wise) coz for lots of things i have to google up certain ifs n buts on issues. The best tip that i have in my vault is , "Get ur paint into as perfect a shape as u can, corrections will be required, then onward PREVENTION is the key". And prevention includes ur daily cleaning, weekly cleaning, monthly and 3 monthly session, HOW is the big question here. This relates to the type of microfibres, applicators, environment, products and techniques u use. A general belief through out the world is that products will only be as good as the cleanliness level of the microfibres and applicators that get used during the process i.e there shudnt be ANY residue in them from previous detailing sessions and that my friend is a PAIN to achieve after every session.

@bad-cheetah
Ultimate compound is more abrasive but still clear coat safe n yes from the looks of ur car it seems its more in need of ultimate compound. The ultimate polish is a new introduction by meguiars and i havent used it till yet so i can only go by the reviews ive read about it online. What meguiars claims is that its definitely abrasive enough to give u good polishing action stil bein clear coat safe which means that its got lower cutting power than the ultimate compound, so use it first and if u dont get the desired results then use the ultimate compound.

The 3 step contains the de-waxer(not abrasive), the sealer and glaze (very minor abrasive) and the carnauba wax (not abrasive) so its going to cost more and do less, what u need is somethin that can give u enough (just enough not more) cutting to get rid of those swirls. Its a hit n trial thing (within safe limits of course) that will land u with best results. Based on experience i'll tell u that ultimate compound is one of the best correction products i have ever used in combination with the supreme shine microfibre towel. The availability, i just cant say anything abt lahore coz ive never bought detailing stuff there but, maybe the saca auto on montgomery road do stock it or mekro might as well. take care.

Finding the ultimate compound would be pretty hard, how would you compare it with 3M Perfect It Polishes? saca has those, and also if you could tell me the response of these products with hand use, because i dont have an automated buffer, and i prefer using it with my hand.
Let usman bhai come, he might confirm about the 3M polish which we saw at saca.

[margallar]

Finding the ultimate compound would be pretty hard, how would you compare it with 3M Perfect It Polishes? saca has those, and also if you could tell me the response of these products with hand use, because i dont have an automated buffer, and i prefer using it with my hand.
Let usman bhai come, he might confirm about the 3M polish which we saw at saca.

hes probabbly having a kushti wid vague_two.

[vague_one]

@bad cheeta
Mothers smells like candy :)....i could imagine u thinking on n on so heres the answer.

@vague_one
N i thought i was the only one spending 6 to 8 hours straight stretches with my car in the garage like addicts. I wonder if i will ever be able to get rid of this obsession, i mean just someone touching my ride on the road ignites the deepest parts of my mental combustion chambers instantaneously. n the worst of the worst is when i go to visit relatives or friends and their DRIVERS have CLEANED my car by the time i come out as courtesy. Feel like cutting their neck off and instead in actual they even get a 100 bucks by the end of it.
Servicing is out of the question for me, i cannot imagine letting those service station guys clean my car with that whatever they use as shampoo within a span of 15 mins.

These are the implications of a detailing addiction. people stay away from it.

Khoob guzray gi jab mil baithain *** do pangi !!!! Nasha nahin tutna chahaye meray bhai.......I `ve at times run after those people who start wiping my cars screen without my approval........sara rain x ka bera garak kertay hain.....service??? I used to own service stations an believe me my trained workers are sought after at stations..........an the ones who dont know me usually end up fighting after 15 mins of me screaming on their head

[vague_one]

So the whole point of it is that if you get into this business, or anything related to cars, get into it with a heavy heart, because only 1 % out of the 100% are like you, the rest are just idiots like that dumb carry dabay wala.

p.s
(no offence to anyone, please respect our rides man)

I`ll just sum it up in a few words NO ONE CAN TAKE CARE OF YOUR KID LIKE YOU CAN ! My car is taken care of liek a child whenever I have the time.....cant neglect kids and family.....all my other spare time is spent in cars

[vague_one]

Turtle bhe chalay ga.

why dont you use the fake turtle wax products you have for the pathar scenario......tumhara ghusa bhi utar jayega turtle ka aur gari walay par bhi ghusa nikal jaeyga, aik teer say do shikar!

[vague_one]

the best thread ever on PWs

Yeh banda sacha hai......beshak.......

[vague_one]

@Usman bhai, I finally came around cleaning the area around the oil reservoir with that Turtle Wax degreasers, The result came out to be marvellous MashAllah but my arm is in a bad shape now only u canstick ur arm there.
Btw, where to get a good set of applicator pads for Mother's Step 2 and 3?
And my Turtle Wax Heavy Duty wash is about to finish, should i stick to it or switch it to something better?

Meray hath bhooth jaghoun par phonch jatay hain meray bhai.....applicator pads.............hmmmm will look an tell,saca had meguairs for different types of detailing, will see what step 2 an 3 is an then I`ll guide you........I used Turtle Wax ICE wash this time, good results............just requires a bit more rubbin. same result otherwise.......best thing is it doesnt take the wax off!

[vague_one]

@ bad cheetah nice amrood storyyyyy
@ vague wasim bhai msgd me tcs tracking no as well now m waiting for the pad to reach

Okies, INSHALLAH will reach you in good condition....to confirm on thread, this was the pilot delivery........eagerly looking at results.

[vague_one]

Finding the ultimate compound would be pretty hard, how would you compare it with 3M Perfect It Polishes? saca has those, and also if you could tell me the response of these products with hand use, because i dont have an automated buffer, and i prefer using it with my hand.
Let usman bhai come, he might confirm about the 3M polish which we saw at saca.

usman bhai will get some of the 3m polish next time an see what it produces......is wakt Usman bhai paidal hain 3M kay baray may....

[vague_one]

hes probabbly having a kushti wid vague_two.

khushti ??? one sided phainti is more the word....you dare touch him an he screams liek a girl an his mom comes runnin, "haye mera putar, haye mera lal" Farigh insan nay jis din mera buffer use kiya tha behen kay massage kay laiy.....i just scolded him an in came the rescue crew well..............you know the rest..........kaun samjhaye mera dil kis tarah bolta hai "haye meri gari, haye mera buffer?"

[vague_one]

Stingray, nice to have you active.....threads been missin ya mate!

[vague_one]

man pages in our thread are goin by in topgear! just sharing a shirt a mate bought for me from England, what came for the car is a surprise............not to be revelaed till a few months.........

[devilz_apprentice]

Yes brother they are a perfect fit on my Sencan Rotary.
How is your Biloxxi going on?Are you satisfied with it?
Need your review as BadCheetah wants to buy it but he is a bit hesitant.

Thank you

Biloxxi is fine for amateurs like me. As usman bhai said earlier, it is very forgiving if u make mistakes. It's just that one has to replace the buff pad with a microfibre one to take off the wax and it's a pain in the *** to replace a pad on the biloxxi. So i usually take off the wax by hand.

[vague_one]

Biloxxi is fine for amateurs like me. As usman bhai said earlier, it is very forgiving if u make mistakes. It's just that one has to replace the buff pad with a microfibre one to take off the wax and it's a pain in the *** to replace a pad on the biloxxi. So i usually take off the wax by hand.

You my friend are very good at mistakes an destroying things before actually getting to use them...............bataoun biloxxi kay sath kiya harkat ki thi aap nay?? Engine saaf kar liya hai, Allah khair hi karay.....kal engine bahar na nikal kar betha hoo, keh ya yeh rahay ga yahan ya mai.....

[Subzwari]

Biloxxi is fine for amateurs like me. As usman bhai said earlier, it is very forgiving if u make mistakes. It's just that one has to replace the buff pad with a microfibre one to take off the wax and it's a pain in the *** to replace a pad on the biloxxi. So i usually take off the wax by hand.

Agreed that it renders an effortless and uniform application but dont you think that applying wax using buffer (like Biloxxi) will waste the product as more material will remain in the pad rather than spreading on the surface?
What's the price of Biloxxi at SACA ?

[vague_one]

Happened to see the very first car we bought when we shifted back to Pakistan....a Suzuki Khyber, brought back memories of my old diys.......was in class 5 back then, i remember cleaning the dashboard with surf and then complaining to dad that its gotten all white, an he gave me the solution of "rub petroleum jelly on it beta!" An wallah it did work, messed up two cloths removing the excess, but it got my dash in brand new shape! That car MashAllah was run 500k before we sold it off at a profit after 10 years, an the only expense on it was fuel and 2 sets of tyres, started off with GENERALS AWAMI SPRINT, and gradually ended up with radials...not even a bulb fused on it otherwise.

[vague_one]

Agreed that it renders an effortless and uniform application but dont you think that applying wax using buffer (like Biloxxi) will waste the product as more material will remain in the pad rather than spreading on the surface?
What's the price of Biloxxi at SACA ?

Mate, no matter what brand from formula one to turtle wax the application pad is, itll eat up your wax, key though is to keep a light hand on when you dip the pad into the wax as well as when you wax........what I used to do with paste wax was apply polish with a glove directly onto the paint surface, then with a damp pad and a very very light hand just smother it all over the part......Ive tried applying with cloth as well. but same problem. cloth absorbs wax as well.Though Id want to question pressure waxing as well, just for understanding sake, lets have a lil disscussion.........my point here is WHAT DOES PRESSURE HAVE TO DO WITH WAXING? Ive heard the term numerous times, "chotay kut kay hath mar, khana nai khada see?" Now experts, does wax get applied properly if you are pressing down on the pad ? Or does it get applied properly if you just apply with five light handed strokes instead of one?? Get my point? Wax is adding a layer, by pressing down on the machine or the pad what are you trying to do? Impregnate the clear coat with wax? Now when you use a rotary buffer, you are just achieveing more more strokes in a lesser time, suppose in a minute by hand you can achieve 30 or 40 strokes on the same spot, Id say the rotary buffer does 150 or even more in the same time period ..put pressure on a rotary buffer an kamal dekho phir......youll end up with a chrome car!

[vague_one]

Pertainin to the top post, as well as what stingray mentioned last night, khuda kay laiy wash your applicator pads and microfibres after detailing.......Ive admonished a freind who complained keh yar pad sari polish chus jata hai, is laiy mai issay dhota hi nahin, takay pichli bar ki polish ander hi jami ho aur dobara say pad polish na chus ta jaye......Khuda kay banday, first youll end up with powdery residue from the old wax stuck in the pores of the pad.....secondly the dirt an contaminants from the last session will be the very first things to go back onto your clear coat......not worth it, plus Ive noticed, maybe I might be wrong, pads fall soft and slightly deform if kept dirty, whereas if you wash them after detailing an then store them they remain in form and perfect for usage......a bit longer....anyone else notice this?

[vague_one]

Juma time boys......just like you wash yer cars preeety good, get in those showers an clean yerself up....offer Juma an pray it doesnt rain for a bit, just waxed the car in the mornin........................