Car Care and Detailing Dreams

[speedster_101]

As we all know that winter is approaching, detailer crew please suggest us any product which prevents the foggy windscreens and mirrors. I was reading Honda City manual and it was written that you should prepare a solution of water and vinegar and use it for cleaning the windows. The mixture should be such that 1/10 part of the solution should be vinegar and 9/10 should be water.

[stingray]

@Vague one

Two thumbs up for that bay job on the CF3. It sure is getting a lotta love from u :). Ur posted pics were awesome as well, i always love stuff that increases my knowledge base for detailing, however after coming across the pic for orange peel im a bit confused. According to the pic orange peel is a clear coat defect whereas ive seen it happening on my dad's corrolla in the base coat too, so what is it then? n the corolla wasnt gettin painted in the open, it was a official toyota paint booth but still......i even asked the guy with the spray gun who was doin the job ....his answer was....orange peel WILL happen no matter how u paint ur ride, so i asked em why isnt there orange peel on imported cars? but locally u find it even on 0 meter, to which he answered that even imported cars get orange peel when painted fresh, its the way they get buffed n clear coated that makes the peel go away before getting delivered to showrooms and customers. Do u agree with his theory or no?

Mind explaining a TALLY HO sir?

[Massive_One]

wow....thats some informative thread....with all the Gurus gathered at one platform !

well I wash my car with shampoo every weekend when i have time from office, even sometimes I can see that it doesn't need a wash, but I still do wash it coz I like it

now my queries were
1. This much washing to the car is injurious to the paint's health in the long run, or should this practice be continued without any doubts ??
2. If a car is re-painted, i.e. 1-2 piece touch-ups, can it also be this much frequently washed or would it fade away the paint ??

Looking forward to your sincere advice.
Regards,

[mani1]

^I have to add here that there is huge amounts of orange peels on all new Hondas I have come across. Toyotas have a much much better paint. Another defect I have witnessed on all Hondas after 2009 is amount of marring and swirls they accumulate.

As far as imported cars are concerned, recently I took a look at a black 09 Land Cruiser owned by a friend. Yes it had orange peel and strangely more than that on a local corolla

[vague_one]

AoA Vague and detailing gurus,

Ive been following this thread since inception. I need your help regarding my car roof's paint. the colour is gun metallic/grey but now its fading away and giving whitish appearance. Moreover, whenever i wash it it the white water spots appear. This happen for the roof area only and the other body parts are gud as new. Im using mothers carnuba wax. Im also attaching the pics of the faded area for a better idea of the situation.

Your help will be appreciated

Regards

Taimoor

Taimoor, JazakAllah for being an avid follower......an taking the time out to read our falsafay, brother from what I can make out the white spots seem to be water etchings, an some oxidation, no biggie, give it a good polish with a rotary an you`ll be fine......

how's the shine

Shine is good MashAllah bro, the blue kid could get some colour depth......but nice job!! Reflectology in motion............show an shine !!

anybody cares to guess which wax i used ???

You do realise if the neeli or peeli dabbi has been used I`ll be informin the detailin MAFIA...........

[vague_one]

ASA detailing experts, which is best polish for car? i usually wash car with shampoo and wax the car after it.....

Do i need to use anything else like detailer or anything before or after the wax please suggest?

Also there is one sticker stick on the car trunk since two years i tried to remove it many times but it became stiff/harder ... so how can i remove it without damaging the paint?

Cheers

Wsa detailing enthusiast, well your question is too vague, cant answer properly before you tell me, colour, make, model of the car.....please provide the mentioned info an Ill guide ya......taking wax off with a detailer spray does give it an extra ooomph!! So yes you can do that, rest Ill suggest after you give the car`s info........for the sticker, use a heat gun, if not available then ghar ki kissi bhi khatoon jis ki dant aap bardasht kar sakain, get their hair dryer if not that, then just boil water an carefully dip a section of a towel or cloth in it, an rub it over the sticker till it becomes easy to tinker with...trick is to heat it an make the sticky residue loosen its contact with the paint surface....

As we all know that winter is approaching, detailer crew please suggest us any product which prevents the foggy windscreens and mirrors. I was reading Honda City manual and it was written that you should prepare a solution of water and vinegar and use it for cleaning the windows. The mixture should be such that 1/10 part of the solution should be vinegar and 9/10 should be water.

Dilawar bhai thats a very good solution.......duno if it`ll work but you can try a rain repellent on the inner side

[speedster_101]

I will try the vinegar solution and will let you know about the results.

[waqas_awan]

An after the scrubbing, nahayeing an dhoyein an saf suthra hoying, devil it was very nice meeting you mate, very informative as well...stay in touch an God bless you!

lukng awsm.. ap ny kia use kya engine bay k lye ???

[vague_one]

@Vague one

Two thumbs up for that bay job on the CF3. It sure is getting a lotta love from u :). Ur posted pics were awesome as well, i always love stuff that increases my knowledge base for detailing, however after coming across the pic for orange peel im a bit confused. According to the pic orange peel is a clear coat defect whereas ive seen it happening on my dad's corrolla in the base coat too, so what is it then? n the corolla wasnt gettin painted in the open, it was a official toyota paint booth but still......i even asked the guy with the spray gun who was doin the job ....his answer was....orange peel WILL happen no matter how u paint ur ride, so i asked em why isnt there orange peel on imported cars? but locally u find it even on 0 meter, to which he answered that even imported cars get orange peel when painted fresh, its the way they get buffed n clear coated that makes the peel go away before getting delivered to showrooms and customers. Do u agree with his theory or no?

Mind explaining a TALLY HO sir?

^I have to add here that there is huge amounts of orange peels on all new Hondas I have come across. Toyotas have a much much better paint. Another defect I have witnessed on all Hondas after 2009 is amount of marring and swirls they accumulate.

As far as imported cars are concerned, recently I took a look at a black 09 Land Cruiser owned by a friend. Yes it had orange peel and strangely more than that on a local corolla

Stingy, bro JazakAllah for the appreciation, aaj to bura haal kiya hua hai sawal par sawal.....mail par mail.....sir for your basecoat question, I`m puttin out some info below for you, go through it.........an no I dont agree to the painter, reason is aboard the facilities,the booths, the tools, their attention to detail are all on a scale these local guys only dream of....our painters just dont bother with details, putty lagae, paint mikas kiya, gun mai dala, muh par mask lagaya, shappar shappar pher diya.....an as far as toyota paint facility is concerned, the 95 model never had a good painted bumper.......an sames the case with coure.....

Dono uncle, aap kay liay bilkhasoos......

A little insight to orange peel, but before I proceed, let me tell you this disease originates at the paint application stage.......so lets go into the reallllllly hardcore detailing stuff.....

"Orange Peel" is a defect in the finish caused by improper spray application technique. The surface of the finish has the look and feel of an orange. There are a number of causes for orange peel; though a very slight, almost imperceptible orange peel is normal; look closely at a car's factory paint job and you'll see it.

Here's a list of common sources and the fixes.......

Needle/Nozzle wrong size

Selection and usage of the correct needle/nozzle size based on the coating you are spraying. The spray gun manufacturer/supplier and/or the coating manufacturer/supplier can recommend the best size. Generally, a smaller needle/nozzle atomizes the finish better but reduces fluid flow and fan width. The thicker the finish, the larger the needle needed.

Insufficient air pressure/volume

Adjusting the atomization air pressure to the minimum setting needed to produce a fine spray. Too little atomization air pressure will produce larger droplets and a center-weighted spray pattern. Too much air will produce excessive overspray, dry spray, and/or the finish will dry before it flows level.You have to make sure the compressor supplies enough air, in cubic feet per minute (CFM) for the spray gun you're using.

Viscosity of coating

Thin out the finish, as needed, to achieve the proper viscosity. Properly thinned, the finish should atomize into tiny droplets that flow out and level. If the finish is too thick, it will spray in larger droplets. If it's too thin, you will get sags/runs unless you spray very thin coats.

Fluid flow

Adjusting the fluid flow to get the best atomization at the current air settings. Too much fluid flow for the amount of atomizing air will result in large droplets (poorly atomized). Too little fluid will dry before flowing level.

Spray gun distance/speed

Maintaining the recommended distance from the spray surface. Depending on the spray gun and settings, a constant distance in the range 6" - 10" inches is generally best. Maintain a steady hand speed during each spray pass, from end to end, that lays down an even wet coat in the thickness range recommended by the coating manufacturer. Use a wet mil gauge to measure the wet film thickness.

Envirnomental conditions

In hot weather, the finish can dry before flowing out. Use a slower evaporating thinner (retarder). Excessive air flow over the sprayed surface will cause the finish to dry before flowing out. Avoid strong air current over the drying surface.

mazza aya keh nai???

[lea221]

whts the best wax/polish for black color?

[stingray]

@vague_onne

Bhai maza tau bauhaut aa raha hay coz after readin ur answer im making mental reconstructions of why Honda people have so much orange peel whereas toyotas have negligible. Answer could lie most probably in the second para abt the requisite CFM matching by the air compressor OR if not that then i guess honda people need to better train their painters.

Anyways wats a tally ho?

[vague_one]

wow....thats some informative thread....with all the Gurus gathered at one platform !

well I wash my car with shampoo every weekend when i have time from office, even sometimes I can see that it doesn't need a wash, but I still do wash it coz I like it

now my queries were
1. This much washing to the car is injurious to the paint's health in the long run, or should this practice be continued without any doubts ??
2. If a car is re-painted, i.e. 1-2 piece touch-ups, can it also be this much frequently washed or would it fade away the paint ??

Looking forward to your sincere advice.
Regards,

JazakAllah massive one for liking the thread, as for your queries, a weekly wash is no harm, continue without any doubt.......an yes one an two piece touchups can be washed frequently without any probs....

lukng awsm.. ap ny kia use kya engine bay k lye ???

I used Turtle Wax Pre-Soak for the engine cleaning an agitated with brushes, then for dressing I used Turtle Wax Blaze n Glaze......which was wiped by mf....

whts the best wax/polish for black color?

Hmmmm budget????? Though I saw yer ride parked next to shoppe yesterday, nice clean, go for Meg`s Gold Class or Dodo Juice Purple Haze

[vague_one]

@vague_onne

Anyways wats a tally ho?

Sir yeh to google kar lain......

[lea221]

Hmmmm budget????? Though I saw yer ride parked next to shoppe yesterday, nice clean, go for Meg`s Gold Class or Dodo Juice Purple Haze

it depend on the quality,i mean abt the time period for the shine

[shozi123]

PLease suggest me any wax/polish for silver gli & price plz

[Massive_One]

@Vague one .
Thanx buddy !

[kzaki]

[QUOTE=vague_one;3095960]Wsa detailing enthusiast, well your question is too vague, cant answer properly before you tell me, colour, make, model of the car.....please provide the mentioned info an Ill guide ya......taking wax off with a detailer spray does give it an extra ooomph!! So yes you can do that, rest Ill suggest after you give the car`s info........for the sticker, use a heat gun, if not available then ghar ki kissi bhi khatoon jis ki dant aap bardasht kar sakain, get their hair dryer if not that, then just boil water an carefully dip a section of a towel or cloth in it, an rub it over the sticker till it becomes easy to tinker with...trick is to heat it an make the sticky residue loosen its contact with the paint surface....

Thanks...Sir following is the information of car:

Suzuki Liana colour white model 2006
Honda Civic color charcoal grey model 2005
Toyota Vitz color silver model 2003 registered 2007

All the cars are in excellent condition and waxed atleast once a month but the procedure is still the same, shampoo, rinsed it with water, wipe the car with water blade, leave it for around 2 hours until it gets properly dry, apply wax and leave it for one hour, clean the surface with polish cloth .... wax used so far armourall, soft99, blackwax, formula 1 & kangroo and the result of kangrooo is the best as (it provides thick glossy layer over paint)which also last long for a 8-10 days.

I hope it is clear now plz give your suggestion as i have no idea about detailing products and its usage?

and thanks for the sticker thingy i will do it with hair dryer if it doesnt work than boil water trick will be useful...

cheers

[margallar]

vague g tell bad_cheetah that a 500gb laptop hdd(made by toshiba) costs 7800 these days, not advisable to buy new right now as prices are 75% higher then before due to flooding of factories. best to buy an 80gb second hand and use it till prices go down

[mani1]

Today for the first time I worked on my car from the scratch and did all the paint prep and sealant application myself. Took me almost 6 hours but the result in the end was well worth it. The products used were

First the car was shampooed with the Pinnacle Bodywork Shampoo. Then the car was clayed with Mothers Claybar. My car has overspray on it which needed to be removed. At first I tried the usual method as depicted in internet videos but it wasn't working. I then applied a bit more pressure and the overspray gradually started coming off.

After the claying which almost took 3-4 hours, I applied one of my favorite products, the Pinnacle Paintwork cleansing lotion (PPWCL). I have highlighted before that this product has magical abilities to hide swirls and darken the paint. This product however needs to be worked on onto the paint but I was dead tired after the claying so couldn't give it the proper required time. Still it was able to do its work by hiding most of the swirls and darkening the paint. Took almost 1 hour to apply and remove the product.

In the end, I applied Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant (WDGPS 3.0). This is a very well reputed sealant and is counted amongst the best on international forums. For me, this product along with PPWCL is a must have for any car detailing enthusiast. You have to see the results yourself to believe them. This product is super easy to apply and super easy to remove. Infact it is even easier to remove than Pinnacle Souveran! After removal, the glossy look, shine and depth are out of this world! Yes I am talking about depth with a sealant! If you have WDGPS, you do not need any other carnauba wax or sealant. It works better than almost all sealants out there and even most carnauba waxes. The next best sealant I have, Meg NXT 2.0, does not even comes close in terms of looks or durability. A couple of pics

Days like these are when I wish I had a DSLR to capture better pics. Tomorrow I intend on topping it with Pinnacle Souveran Paste Wax.

[Inamkhan1]

Mani1. Amazing. Do u know where v can get pinacle & wolfgang sealent.rt now im using meg. Techwax 2.0 .