Checked Kia Sportage 2017

[fasbas123]

oh sir jee i was talking about international kia models in context because we don't have kia locally. Yes we had some kia cars in the past but we all know how that went. As for the latter part of your response, we say these companies are selling sub-standard products but ultimately we end up buying those very cars we criticize. Kind of hypocritical of us don't you think?

[Khurramchauhdary]

I 2nd you at this price or even anything over 2.8 (price of Grande, CIVIC) will be a disaster for it I won't wonder if they didn't manged to sell a single unit like failure of Toyota prius and Daihatsu Terious of indus, Chevrolet cruz and Kizashi of Suzuki. They can only survive by offering top of the line at maximum of 2.9

[triple-m]

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I do get your point but IMO we have to factor in the fact that Kia will be the first of any to launch a "Compact SUV" in Pakistan (Vezel/HRV is not a compact SUV), so I'll be a bit generous here and say they can probably take their chances at 3.0 - 3.1M max for the BASE trim because of no already existing option in this segment.

The price of 4.0 million being mentioned for the TOP trim I think will only just about be justifiable (after factoring in the typical Pakistan overpricing) if they launch it with the 1.6L Turbocharged engine and NO feature stripping.

I must say though, globally the top trim level of the Sportage sold by KIA is extremely feature rich and IF they manage to launch that same model here for about 3.6 mill it's sure to be a hit.

[usman19854]

-Toyota Prius by Indus couldn't sell because people already had cheaper Japanese imports in the market.
-Suzuki kizashi was never possible to sell after the reputation paksuzuki had made for itself. Who'd buy a 5 million vehicle made by a company famous for Suzuki mehran?
-Daihatsu Terios was never justified at a price above Corolla( Terios was more of an equivalent to Honda's brv) same goes for Chevy Cruze. You can't sell Cruz at price of Malibu.Also consider the fact that Chevy had almost already given up on Pakistani Market by then.

[ali454]

What new car companies fail to understand is that the majority of the people in Pakistan do not select and buy cars according to their needs. This is in contrast to what people do in lets say Europe where people never really bother what kind of car ( even a kei car) they own as long as it serves their needs and packed with adequate features.

People in Pakistan are in competition with family/neighbours/friends as to who owns the biggest and the newest car.
Now this is exactly what IMC understood. It produced a stripped off XLi and the nation went bonkers after it. 99% do not care what features it has as long as its bigger than their neighbours car.

KIA should offer a stripped down variant to keep the cost minimum and it will sell good. A packed car at 4 million will be a gamble.

[usman19854]

^^thats unfortunately true. People will buy a car with nothing just cos it looks big but I hope this changes instead of encouraging new entrants to continue this. I think Kia should offer the base model with stripped off features but an upper spec model with complete features should be available.

[arkhitekt]

There is a base model Sportage which will be offered somewhere around 3.0-3.4 Million mark. That car also has keyless entry, push start, airbags, e-brake etc. The top spec had further loads of stuff including panoramic sunroof and park assist and that will be costing close to 4 Mark

[hasham30]

Arkhitekt bro have you driven the new vitara if yes can you compare the two. Because Vitara has some very good international reviews and consider it a very potent off roader plus it's very well equipped. Hum log tu master hain har cheez ki khaal udhairne main with out even seeing the thing in person. So if you can have an unbiased comparison

[arkhitekt]

No brother, I haven’t driven it but a very close friend has bought one. Haven’t been to Islamabad as he lives there so didn’t drive yet. But he says its a very good product from Suzuki. Only the pricing and their past history for such vehicles is chequered so hence the reason its a flop. By the way I know people who have bought Vitaras at 5-7 lakh below invoice value

[sufyanmasood9]

I drove Vitara from Peshawar to isb on motorway and did a bit off road test also. Its drive and grip is awesome, on motorway even at 180kph it was in supreme control...it's sports mode just gives you chills. The only drawback is its quality of interior.
If Sportage base model offered @ below 3mn mark, it can give competition to even sedan market here...

[fasbas123]

indeed the vitara is such a wonderful machine for what it offers , unfortunately the "stigma" that comes with suzuki brand clouds the judgement of a potential buyer which is kind of sad.

[fasbas123]

What was the color scheme of the car's interior you drove sir?

[suhaibayaz]

Couple of weeks ago I called few dealerships and visited Suzuki Olympia motors in Lahore to check Vitara, they only had GL+ which looked good in terms of exterior but interior was rubbish. Cheap plastic everywhere. Plus they said that discount scheme is finished and vehicles are back to regular price and secondly no one seemed to have GLX.

It’s a proper suv (compact) not one of those pretend fwd crossovers.

[sufyanmasood9]

All black with greyish silver trim on dashboard same as Ciaz. BTW it's very fuel economical also, on motorway I cruised at 140 with some 160 and 180 runs, it returned 14kmpl. On highway from Noshera to Peshawar on 100kph it returned 17kmpl. It's just Suzuki tag and there tactics and pricing which are the reason of this little beast failure.

[autobanda]

Keeping International prices in mind Nothing more than 3.2 Million for the top spec model if it is to be manufactured locally. That is if they intend to sell it. If they just want to launch a model to build their profile as a Elitist Company with a SUV in their portfolio they can freakin price it at 5 Million for all I care!

[autobanda]

In the Musharaff/DFML era the Sportage used to sell for around 1.6-1.7 Million when the The rupee was arnd 60 rupees to a dollar. Now that it is less than double the Price should reflect the same trend. Then again, like you guys said. Kia/Hyundai sells the world over because of its price competitiveness and not because of the Brand

[ivtec3]

BR-V is not a SUV by any standards

[zairahmed12]

Good to hear about new competition coming to Pakistan. It surely will be a hit if priced under 3.7 m for the top trim.

[Khurramchauhdary]

BRV is nothing more than a MPV like Suzuki APV or FAW Sirius or precisely a bigger carry daba

[Nabs]

There are so many categories of SUVs now that it is getting ridiculous.

Subcompact SUV (also Mini-SUV, or Subcompact Crossover SUV) = Honda BRV, Honda Vezel, Nissan Juke, Mini Pajero

Compact SUV (also Compact Crossover SUV) = KIA Sportage, Toyota RAV4, Honda CR-V, Suzuki Vitara

Mid-size Crossover SUV = Honda Pilot, Kia Sorento, Toyota Harrier

Mid-size SUV = Toyota Prado, Toyota Fortuner, Ford Everest, Toyota 4Runner

Full-size SUV = Toyota Land Cruiser, Range Rover, Cadillac Escalade