Chery QQ (Experience)

[razaksyed]

Salams.... I am in China these days and what I see is hard to believe... Chinese are making everything they potentialy can including VW Passat, Audi... you name it.... Chery QQ is a poor man's merc here ! but that does not undermine its utility as a small affordable car (although you dont see too many of them on the streets of Beijing and Lanzhou) ..... need any more info on Cherry QQ lemme know.... (I hope I find an english speaking Chinese to explain more) .... body language is all I use for ordering my food in restaurants.... even the menu is mostly in Chinese language..... guys miss Nihari and Biryani .... forget cars talk about decent pakistani food.... yum yum....

[aliqadri]

Obaid bhai, install CNG in it, and calculate it's average on CNG...

[Obii1]

Hi Razaksyed - please find out from any Chinese QQ owner what fuel economy he is getting there? like how many kms/liter?

as for ideal conditions - ofcourse i'm not driving in ideal conditions i'm driving in Lahore mostly main blvd, canal rd and Wahdat rd and it is in these conditions that other cars are getting 13km/l on petrol with AC and Chery having a more advanced MPFI DOHC engine should give better fuel economy (15km/l would suffice as our normal Super petrol in not High Octane, another pakwheeler in Egypt has a QQ as well and is getting 17Km/l with AC) so i think the Chinese Chery ppl need to come to Pakistan modify the engine's programing a little and train the Pakistani Chery ppl to do the same to the exisiting Chery cars out there. The dealers have the QQ's computer and could do it if properly trained.

[drsaed]

When I got chery way back in Nov last year, it was giving me an average of 17 km/L on petrol in city and around 21+ on highway. The consumption, as per my experiance is best if you are driving on highway at max 100km/h..more than that the consumption increases as should be expected from an 800 cc car.
On CNG it is giving me around 125 km on highway with a 40 kg cylinder with AC and around 80 km in the city with frequent stops and full time AC ofcourse.
I really am not bothered much about the comsumption, because the pleasure of its drive with all the accesories it has and to top it the MP3 player I installed in it tilt the balance in favour of this car. The maouverability is its major PLUS point in city driving.

[aliqadri]

@obaid bhai: do u have any plans to install CNG kit in this car ?

if yes!, then it's the right time to do so

[formula]

looks good

[qasim_ali_qureshi]

i am thinking for putting cng kit in my cherry qq.i have gone through the prevoius post. will inquire about other details latter

[Obii1]

@aliqadri: yes i am planning on getting CNG installed within this week. Will most likely get it from the Chery dealer recommended by Chery Pakistan. I enquired from him and his rates are pretty competetive for a LandiRenzo he is quoting 33k with emulator+advancer and 50kg cylinder.

Qasimqureshi: if we both go the same guy together maybe we can get a discount

[qasim_ali_qureshi]

@hellyeah
i also live in pindi. form where have you installed cng.what about the cost. please tell me other details. how is the cherry show room providing service to you.

@ Obii1

since i live in in pindi so it won't be cheap for me. however if the fitter are better in lahore, then i might fit it from lahore. thanks for the info regarding current price of cng.

[Obii1]

Qasim i think the rates and fitters are better in ISB/RWP as that is the center of CNG biz in Pakistan.

i have talked to few more fitter - Maverick and FTFS - both in Faisal Town, Lahore and they both quoted me higher rates than the Chery dealer! that is strange. The Maverick guy was the most expensive - quoting 38k for Landi+combined emulator/advancer from Tomaseto i think.

Looking for advice on how to proceed - any recomendation on fitter?

[qasim_ali_qureshi]

i will be fitting cng after 11th. i will check cherry showroom for there price.i think its more imp to fitt cng fromn expert rather than price of installation.

[hellyeah]

yaar joo cherry kay choor chook walay show room kay sath hay na inflex cng .. wahain say lagwi thee .. and it cost us rs 32500 . 40 kg cylinder .. and lz kit with temasto advancer and emulater... showroom sirvice to ache hee thee ..

[Shurjeel]

Is the QQ`s engine Dual Overhead Camshaft (DOHC) if yes then is its engine reapir expensive nor not and what about tuning is there any special work for DOHC engines
And can any of u post their web address

[qasim_ali_qureshi]

thanks for info. iwill visit showroom after 11th. does the spare trye comes out easily and what about luggage space after cylinder in trunk?

repair must be costly after all this engine can not be fixed by a simle mechanic. ( it is latest in technology).

[bon747]

areyyy yaarr y dont u guyz call each other, y only on pak wheels forum ......

[Shurjeel]

so it is a DOHC sounds good it must be ahell quicker then cuore and others japanese imports

[hellyeah]

yaar agar spare type orignal position per rakho to phir to back seat ko fold kar kay nee nikalna perta hay .. agar nahin to pachay khara kar doo .. just like coure .. himm lugage spage .. packets bana kar thons loo ... kasay kay sub chote gareown main hota hay .. but aik brifcase aaram say cylinder kay nachay aa jay ga .. baki seat or cylinder kay bach kafi jagha hay .. and cylinder kay sides per bhi ..

[qasim_ali_qureshi]

please comment on this post

https://www.pakwheels.com/forumreply_az_TopicID!23731~ForumID!24~pw.html

i visited cherry corporation in pindi. and they told the cng conversion price equal to 35000.

other details are on this post

https://www.pakwheels.com/forumreply_az_TopicID!23731~ForumID!24~pw.html

[qasim_ali_qureshi]

should i put cng in car?

my car is cherry qq

• points of cng conversion which i think are these:

cheap fuel
polution free(i think it is)

• points of cng conversion which i think are these:

compnay warrenty ends.
decrease in safety(what if a car bangs at my cars back?)
loss of trunk space.will need to put a carrier on top for long trips.
new problems created by cng conversion. maintance cost also increases.
long ques at cng fueling stations.
affect on car shocks,braking, acceleration and weight.(add their cost aswell)
can't put a basstube etc in trunk.
my driving requirments is also low around 45km at most per day.
i might buy a larger faimly car in december.

36000 rs is the aproximate cost of cng conversion. currently cng price is half of petrol.

apr km traveled in a month 1000. so cost is 4000. geting 14.5km/l.
if convered to cng.fuel cost is 2000.
so in 12 months ,saving =24000.
however it must be requiring some maintance so saving around 20000.
will need to replace some parts early due to extra load in trunk all the time. so cost saving sufficently reduced.

please comment on this.

[Obii1]

Hi everyone,
I just got back from a week long drive on my CNG Chery QQ. All in all i think i traveled around 1300 Kms.

First of all i got CNG fitted in my QQ and its running great on CNG. My fuel costs have gone down dramatically! previouly i was filling the car with Rs.400 petrol everyday and now a tankful of CNG (Rs.175) runs me for 2 days. What a difference!

I got GasPetro (Argentinian) kit installed along with PVR emulator, advancer, Diel manual switch & Influx 40L cylinder. Total Cost including labour: Rs.27k good price i know. I got it all done from Total pump (next to Postmaster General office), lower Mall-Lahore.
I will post some pics soon.

On GT Road it did 106kms on Rs.160 of CNG (from Pindi) with AC! or Rs.1.5/km (pretty good) but in city it is doing around 80km (Rs.2/km).

Today i saw an ad of CNG QQ from Pak Chery in the newspaper and confirmed with dealer that Pak Chery is now offering CNG QQ for Rs.10k more or Rs.4,99k. That is a great deal i think! would have waited 2 months to buy it if i had known earlier. I wonder what kit they are installing.