CHERY TIGGO-8; Dedicated Discussion, Owner/ Fan Club Thread

[msabbasi]

1) On the highway, an HEV will give milage pretty close to a non HEV.

2) Judging from the number of Havals vs Tiggo 8s on the roads, I'd say resale of the Haval is clearly better.

3) I have not driven a HEV but own a Jolion as well. If the HEV drive is anything like the Jolion, then HEV is a better driving experience hands down.

[alitayyab]

The main advantage of the HEV, to me, was not its hybrid nature, but the infinitely better transmission in the form of DHT. The DCT in almost all Chinese cars is not the most refined and is prone to "lathergic urgency", esp when trying to reverse into a parking spot or in stop and go traffic. The DHT is one of the better CVTs I have driven with seamless switches between EV, ICE and Hybrid modes. The RPM does ramp up as the car is in the intermediate range, but the drive is seamless and jerkless and so much better than the DCTs

Also what I have experienced, Haval's after sales is better, if even marginally than Chery in Pakistan at-least in Islamabad. Haval Experience is very very courteous, accept Credit card payments without additional charges (at-least until Feb 24 when i was last there). They likely know their car a bit better, but are not without fault (look for my thread regarding driver side ventilation fan issue, which they couldn't isolate or fix and I did it in like a couple of hours).

[msabbasi]

My Jolion has DCT and so does my Tiggo 8. Not sure what transmission HEV has The DCT vehicle reversing up and incline is the achilles heel of all DCT transmissions. Very few high end cars my pass that test. I like to drive my cars a bit harder than most, My gen X Civic had CVT and my newer Chinese cars have DCTs. I found both to be acceptable. Maybe the DCT gives a bit more instant pickup if one disregards turbo lag. However very rarely I feel a bit of a lurch in the upshifts on the Tiggo 8. But that has been happening after the dealer replaced the clutch assembly under warranty.

With regards to dealer service, I'd place both Haval and Cherry dealer equal based of getting work done from both.

[msabbasi]

This morning I had to go for a meeting and when I tried to start the car, there was a clicking and the starter tried to start the car but was unable to. DEAD BATTERY.

I will share my experience so that others may take some advantage. This car comes with a maintenance free battery. Though they are convenient but have an undesirable property. One minute they are fine and the very next minute dead. NO WARNING. The other maintenance batteries with filler plugs give ample warning before dying. I called the dealer and told him what if I repalced the battery, will the car require a battery re-learn as in German cars especially BMWs. Hear is the conversation:

Me: Will the car need to be scanned by the factory scanner for any reset?
Dealer: Yes, the check engine light will need a fault code erase. But you are not allowed by Ghandhara to buy any old battery from the market. Only genuine battery is allowed to be fitted.
Me: OK, as I will be travelling out of Islamabad next week, do you have a battery I can get from you. And how much is it?
Dealer: We don't have it in stock and it will take a while to get it for me and it is 95,000/-
Me: WHATTTT??? is it made of gold?
Dealer: The previous price was 220,000!! then Ghandara reduced it to 95,000!
Me: So what am I supposed to do? Park the car for the next God knows how many weeks till you get the battery.

With this I went to work on the battery. I was certainly no going to let the car sit for weeks on my drive. There was enough juice in the battery to unlock the doors but not enough to crank the engine. My first mistake was to try to crank 3-4 times. This further killed the battery to the point that various modules went off line due to low voltage. I have a battery charger that has a function to revive dead batteries in 90 sec (enough to get one start). I tried this and sure enough the car started but Auto stop light and check engine light were on. After letting it run for a few minutes and letting the charger top up the battery (it was showing 70% on the charge gauge (that is bad). I took the battery out, went to my neighborhood battery place and was pleased to get an almost identical battery (spec wise). Battery went in and I started the car, all lights went out except the check engine light.

Original battery:
12V - 70Apm-hr. Cold cranking Amps = 680A suitable for Auto Stop. DIN-888

Replacement battery:
Daewoo, 12V - 72 Amp-hr. Cold starting Amps = 625A DIN-888

So not quite the same spec but close enough to get my car going. Next I went to the dealer who charged 1500/- to reset the ECU error code. Car is ready for the 400km (one way) trip. InshAllah.

[zee5han]

Holy hell 95k and they don't even have em in stock that's outrageous, pretty sure situation would've been different in case of HAVAL

[msabbasi]

I am a bit old fashioned and still have a lot of old cassettes hanging around. I have been thinking of a way to play them in the Chery. Earlier I had installed a CarLinkKit device playing through Apple Car play that allows me to have Spotify, Netflix, Prime, You tube, Navigation and a host of other features. One of these is Bluetooth music which also doubles as handsfree phone as well.

I was able to get a cassette player that connects to the CarLinKit device via Bluetooth and allows me to play my tapes in the car.

It is French and does a half decent job of bringing cassette music to the car. Performance is let down by a bit of hiss and a bit of wow and flutter. Overall - I am over the moon.

https://www.wearerewind.com/products/lecteur-cassette-bluetooth-orange-serge

[waqaskash80]

Cherry tigo 8 ki booking kab sa start ho gi

[msabbasi]

There is a Tiggo get together in Islamabad at Tim Hortons opposite F-9 park in the new Blue Area followed by a rally. Time is 4:00pm on the 25th. Event is arranged by the Chery dealership.

[msabbasi]

Some pics from the Chery event in Islamabad.

[msabbasi]

A few days ago I and the family went from Islamabad to Mansehra and back. I wanted to share the fuel economy figure here. I got 13.4 km/l for the entire trip which included up hill to Mansehra, driving in Mansehra city and back to Islamabad. The tank was filled up to the auto-stop level before setting off, driven and then refilled in the same way at the same fuel station upon returning.

Is this a reasonable fuel economy for this car? Interesting to note here is that the dashboard fuel economy figure was far from the actual economy.

[saad0irfan]

the dashboard fuel economy figure was far from the actual economy.

Stupid question but did it show more than actual or less? Most probably it showed more.

Anyways the real reason of this post is that if you check who liked the above tiggo 8 rally pics, the first three likes are very strategically placed
(I accidentally contributed in that sorry lol I just noticed it now)

[msabbasi]

Stupid question but did it show more than actual or less? Most probably it showed more.

[/quote]

No question is stupid. On average I drive about in Islamabad city and the display is 1 km/l more than actual. Eg. it will display 10.5 km/l but actually is will be 9.5km/l. However this time on the long run, it went the other way. Display was 12.8 while actual was 13.4 km/l. So what do you make of that?

[msabbasi]

I filled up and 31.15 liters. Milage was 252.8 so that brings the actual milage to 8 1 km/l. That pretty awful and one of the reasons for Chery Tiggo 8 not being popular.

[saad0irfan]

Did you use normal or high octane? If I may ask.

[msabbasi]

Normal fuel. Have used that from day one. I am told that hioc is supposed to give a better economy. But the question is will hioc costs more so will I make a saving if the fuel economy is better. I mean it will have to be significantly better to make real world savings.

So regular 31.15 liters cost 8100/- so my per km cost was 32.04 Rs/km. In order to find cost per km with hioc, I'll have to drive the car till the low fuel light comes on and then do a full tank with hioc to do my math

[saad0irfan]

Correct me if I'm wrong but these high stress turbocharged engines with low compression will require a slow burning fuel to give optimum performance and efficiency.

My question is not about having better savings, but to experiment if hobc actually gives better mileage. It'll be interesting!

Btw that per km cost is a lot!

[msabbasi]

I agree.

The economy of 8.1 is pretty bad. I usually get around 9.5 km/l. I had a chat with someone who is an expert on modern cars and especially those in Pakistan and the market. His review on the Tiggo 8 was that the 2 reason for it dismal sales are its thirst and dismal ride. At least the review about the fuel economy is correct.

I'll do the hioc test in a few weeks.

[msabbasi]

I am sharing 2 YouTube reviews of the Tiggo 8 carried out by the same two guys 2 years apart.

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They don't like it in the in the first one and then like it in the second video. Also note the 0-100 time in the first video and compare same in the second video. I am a bit confused.

[saad0irfan]

One of the guys is @arkhitekt and he's a pretty decent guy (at least the on PW). Not sure why there is a difference of opinion after two years though.

Also the 0-100 timing difference isn't that big. Could be that it wasn't launched as perfectly as in the first video.

[msabbasi]

On a recent 3 day trip to Karachi where I had to spend a lot of time on the road. Sadly, I saw just one Tiggo 4. Chery is just not selling as one would expect at all.