CHERY TIGGO-8; Dedicated Discussion, Owner/ Fan Club Thread

[krafiq]

Thank you for this info, didn't know about this law called Lemon Buy Back.
This term Lemon is an economic technical term, which was authored by Akerlof in 1970 in a research paper underlying how asymmetrical information will lead all peaches to exit Used Car Market leaving only Lemons behind. Again in the used car market.
Detailed paper published in 1970 can be found here

https://www.sfu.ca/~wainwrig/Econ400/akerlof.pdf

[msabbasi]

Here is the law I was referring to

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://assets.bbbprograms.org/docs/default-source/auto-line/statelemonlaws/kansas-lemonlaw.pdf%3Fsfvrsn%3D42c0a65f_5&ved=2ahUKEwjpwp6d0YaKAxXwfKQEHfatD7gQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2zxOdeBf3fSmwkyqwJlYeg

[j_aquil]

Ghandhara Automobiles is also in the process of launching the Cherry Cross Plug-in Hybrid (PHEV) model in January or February 2025.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1875896

[darthvader]

There's no such thing as Chery Cross.

[j_aquil]

I missed that word , maybe they are linking it with Toyota Corolla Cross for some reason

[msabbasi]

Withdrawn

[j_aquil]

After watching Haval H6 Hybrid sucess , they will for sure launch a PHEV. I agree not much information on the real timeline of their launch in the article..

[sakifriend]

Dear brand new

[msabbasi]

I would like to share my experiences regarding the fuel economy of the Tiggo 8. More precisely the economy readout on the dash. I bought this car in 2023. Since then till now I was filling up from random fuel stations and there was always a difference of 1.5 -2 km/L difference between readout and actual. The readout always displayed an optomistic economy compared to actual.

Since the last 5 times i have been filling from the ARAMCO station in G-6/4. I was very surprised that if i fill from ARAMCO the actual economy compared to the display is off by 0.1 - 0.2 km/L.

What conclusions can one draw from this? 1) Tiggo fuel economy display is pretty accurate. 2) None of the petrol pumps are dispensing the correct amount of fuel.

[pwuser164163568474]

Is that really how it works? If you would get fuel until the pump auto clicks, shouldn't that give you a full tank, regardless whatever the pump meter shows you? A more logical conclusion sounds like that the fuel quality is somehow giving less power (and Aramco is giving you more), or that the computer's estimate is more accurate because the driving may have been more consistent.

[msabbasi]

My practice is to fill until the thing goes click. Filling till the neck is not a good practice as there is a chance to spoil the charcoal cannister. After fill up, I zero the trip meter and drive about till the thing goes to approx half tank. Then I go and fill the tank till it goes click. Then I take the trip km reading and divide by the amount of fuel displayed on the petrol pump read out. What I believe happening is: let's say car actually took 6 liters but the display says 6.3 liters. So when I do the math, the avg fuel comes to be worse than it actually is. Do I make sense??

Not so sure about the fuel quality being any better. ARAMCO bought out GO. Even today the road tanker that delivers petrol to this station has GO painted on it same as before. So I can't say for sure that what is going into my car is ARAMCO fuel from Saudi of just a change in management.

[pwuser164163568474]

Oh okay, this explains things much better. What is happening is that the trip meter is actually rather inconsistent during smaller measurements. I would assume that it is a coincidence that when you fuel with Aramco that the measurements become more accurate, but it could also be a better quality thing. GO and Aramco have a JV in Pakistan and that is how they are operating here in the beginning, from what I heard

[jamshed76]

Salam & hello. Is it advisable to purchase Tiggo 8 pro now, since Ghandhara & Chery have not renewed their agreement? Will this lead to a spare parts issue here in Pakistan? Also, if there is no local partner for Chery, how will Chery owners claim warranties? Guidance required please.

[msabbasi]

The small trips filling does not apply to me because over the 50,000km this car has covered, I have filled the car at half tank. This car does about 250-270 km before reaching half tank. So my data has been gathered under identical conditions over 50,000km. As I said the last 4-5 refills were at ARAMCO and that's the only time the average display on the dash agrees with the calculated average.

[pwuser164163568474]

I would consider half a tank a small measurement for the car, I strongly believe that if you would check your fuel average after a full tank it would be closer to the accurate display. Regardless, I will be looking out to try some fuel from Aramco next time in Islamabad! Thank you for the input.

[pwuser167550015690]

I would assume if Chery wants to build consumer trust and good will, they will ask their new partner to honor and service the existing units produced by Ghandhara.

Chary is one of China's largest and well respected brands so it is a shame that they partnered with a group like Ghandhara that have a bad track record of delivering.

Imagine if Chery had partnered with someone as capable and dedicated as Sazgar. You would've seen real competition in the segment and the H6 wouldn't have had as big of a market dominance as it does right now because the Tiggo 8 is a better vehicle than the H6 in many aspects, specially the Pro Max that Ghandhara never launched in Pakistan.

[msabbasi]

Yes I would tend to agree with the point that Ghandara is not known for capturing the market. Name me one brand that has done well under their stewardship. Sadly I fear Chery will also go down the same path as Nissan cars, Faw, Mitsubishi and lately, Isuzu. Another disaster in the making will be JAC if we see their history. On the other hand we have new boys on the block such as Haval and Changan managed by Sazgar and Master who are dead serious in making a name and edging their way into the market. This is easily evident by the number of Havals and Chengans on the roads compared to Chery.

[alitayyab]

Both Sazgar and Changan have young CEOs (comparatively speaking). They are more likely to be "intune" with reality than others. At-least that is my take. Though both are family groomed CEOs, they have, at-least managed to give the old players a run for their money. A recent article on BR showed how close Sazgar is to Indus when it comes to financial numbers.,

Edit, the article and the quote:

"Sazgar’s post-tax earnings have rapidly climbed since March. In Sep-24, the company made Rs4.2 billion in profits. Here’s the banger: that is uncomfortably closer to Indus Motors than the latter would like. Meanwhile, Honda is not even in the same league anymore."

https://www.brecorder.com/news/40341861

[ifadey]

Cherry is not going anywhere. They are here to stay and they have finalized new partner which is much stronger than Gandhara. They will soon announce their new partner along with 2 new sub-brands launch.

There are rumors they are partnering with Lucky Motor.

[alitayyab]

Luck Motors = Lucky Group = Abdul Razzak Tabba (late) = Don of cartelization in cement industry in Pakistan.

They may be strong, but they dont have consumer interest in their crosshairs only $$$