Cleaing car's cooling system with "meetha soda" aka baking soda/Sodium Bi-carbonate?

[Sharo53]

So brothers i want to know is it a good idea?
any side effect?
actually im going to change radiator of my car so before that i want to make sure there is no rust left in cooling system(coolant pockets,feed pipe etc) so want to clean it throughly...

i have no idea about the radiator flush available in the market will those be able to really "CLEAN" the cooling system...

[doctor]

Try the one made by Liquimoly.It may help.I havent tried personally but came across at Liquimoly outlet in Peshawar.

My uncle used it for flushing radiator but when he tried to open the radiator plastic plug to drain water out of the radiator after the procedure as written over the bottle.The plug broke and then he replaced it with local ones that did not work and leaked and then he had to get the original one.It was not the fault of the Liquimoly liquid but narrated the whole story so that you are careful and this does not happen with you.

[ziddipathan]

Never do it

only change your radiator thats it. Change all hose pipes if required. Dont be over concerned about this upto the level that you ruin everything

[Sharo53]

Try the one made by Liquimoly.It may help.I havent tried personally but came across at Liquimoly outlet in Peshawar.

My uncle used it for flushing radiator but when he tried to open the radiator plastic plug to drain water out of the radiator after the procedure as written over the bottle.The plug broke and then he replaced it with local ones that did not work and leaked and then he had to get the original one.It was not the fault of the Liquimoly liquid but narrated the whole story so that you are careful and this does not happen with you.

That's the last option I have

Never do it

only change your radiator thats it. Change all hose pipes if required. Dont be over concerned about this upto the level that you ruin everything

any specific reason of not doing it?

[Xulfiqar]

baking Soda will not clean anything in there and adding a slurry of it might oxidize the aluminium parts of the engine which will act as an insulation, you first need a citric acid flush then the soda treatment to neutralize the acid. No other way round it.

If your cooling system is heavily rusted corroded and silted then an acid treatment can mean that you will have all sorts of leaks springing up after the clean up - its good and bad at the same time.

good is that you are fixing leaks that could cause catastrophic failure while driving

bad is that you spend mucho money fixing the leaks.

[Sharo53]

baking Soda will not clean anything in there and adding a slurry of it might oxidize the aluminium parts of the engine which will act as an insulation, you first need a citric acid flush then the soda treatment to neutralize the acid. No other way round it.

If your cooling system is heavily rusted corroded and silted then an acid treatment can mean that you will have all sorts of leaks springing up after the clean up - its good and bad at the same time.

good is that you are fixing leaks that could cause catastrophic failure while driving

bad is that you spend mucho money fixing the leaks.

so leaving it as it without doing anything is a better option?

[Xulfiqar]

so leaving it as it without doing anything is a better option?

I would clean it out - because I absolutely hate breaking down in the middle of nowhere in the dark of night.

If it is heavily rusted out I will prepare myself for "zabardast kharcha coming up" and act accordingly.

[Sharo53]

I would clean it out - because I absolutely hate breaking down in the middle of nowhere in the dark of night.

If it is heavily rusted out I will prepare myself for "zabardast kharcha coming up" and act accordingly.

sir actually i have swapped a kabli cb-23 few months ago i dont know how long it was resting in bilal-gunj...
in cooling system water body was only the leaking part, i got it reparied with good quality parts...feed pipe looks strong and not heavily rusted...radiator is heavily rusted and i will change it before summer starts..hose pipe are all new..

so any other part left that had a chance of leaking..?

can you plz mention the steps how should i clean it?
let me tell what i have in mind,
1: i will flush it many time with fresh water untill water coming out seems clean
2: then will fill it with water and pour some baking soda and will wait for the water to get hot and so baking soda can show its magic...
3:then again will flush it many times with plain water...
4:(then what)????:S:S:S

[mostwanted_001]

How good are the flushing agents you get in a very nicely packed bottles. Some are even imported. Is it worthwhile to use them?

[Sharo53]

How good are the flushing agents you get in a very nicely packed bottles. Some are even imported. Is it worthwhile to use them?

never used it...
and no one with personal experience is coming up..

p.s if someone know the price of good quality radiator flush plz quote it

[mostwanted_001]

I have used one radiator flush before. I think it was 400 or 500. 1 liter Bottle. It was written on the back made in USA. When i used it in the radiator, after 15 minutes of idle, a lot of small rusty deposits were loose in the water. But i cannot say that it cleaned 100%. But it was surely cleaner.

Another guy used the same thing in his starlet. His engine internals were old and rusty. After using it few days later his head gasket starting leaking because the old rusty deposits were loose and came out.

[Xulfiqar]

sir actually i have swapped a kabli cb-23 few months ago i dont know how long it was resting in bilal-gunj...
in cooling system water body was only the leaking part, i got it reparied with good quality parts...feed pipe looks strong and not heavily rusted...radiator is heavily rusted and i will change it before summer starts..hose pipe are all new..

so any other part left that had a chance of leaking..?

can you plz mention the steps how should i clean it?
let me tell what i have in mind,
1: i will flush it many time with fresh water untill water coming out seems clean
2: then will fill it with water and pour some baking soda and will wait for the water to get hot and so baking soda can show its magic...
3:then again will flush it many times with plain water...
4:(then what)????:S:S:S

baking soda will not clean anything - you need a mild acid like tartaric acid or a premade radiator flush

[PKTUN]

janab zulfiqar saheb keya vinegar+salt ka solution chalay ga to flush the radiator. dozers working on highway unka radiators ko pathan ustaad sirka aur namak ka solution sai (10 gallon solution) sai every week (every 100 hours of working) flush kartay hain radiator core oper sai bilkul kancha clean nazar ati hain coolant bhi saaf nikalta hai magar itni thaand hai k bone ka gooda bhi jaam raha hai.

[Xulfiqar]

vinegar is 10% acetic acid and it will cut some sludge but salt would be counter effective specially on aluminium items - it can cause erosion under high temp and pressure. It will do a far weaker job than the citric acid flush - but please do flush out with meetha soda after you drain it out - it will neutralize all acid.

coolant will usually always drain clean unless you use it for about 10000 hours without changing it and your dozers would have coolant filters too. It is wise to test its PH and SG everytime you put it back into the engine. That way you know that the conc. is perfect everytime.

[Sharo53]

sir i use pure lemon extract in place of citric acid?

then i'll neutralize it using meetha soda?

[Xulfiqar]

whats the problem in buying tartari at the dukaan.

[Sharo53]

whats the problem in buying tartari at the dukaan.

now this is better idea, thanks sir i'll try it and will update

[fahadwizz]

whats the problem in buying tartari at the dukaan.

Batao bhai!