Concern Regarding HONDA CG 125 EURO 2

[Eur0_2]

@eur0_2 ! Brother when you take the picture of your Spark Plug, take it from the "Side Angle", to show the "Tip" of your spark plug.

Anyway, kindly get some carbon on your finger (from the exhaust tip) and either take its picture, or tell me if its wet or dry. (use a better camera maybe? :P)

As mentioned before in one of my previous replies ... If the "black" smoke comes on full throttle, then its mostly rich mixture.

Whenever piston rings are at fault, the bike will continuously give "Bluish White" smoke, when engine is HOT.

i cleaned carbn today with cloth so no more there ...
spark plug ke pic jo aap na uplod ke ha takreebn same he hai .. mine little bit redish bt ring is same sooty black ... tu aap kya kahty ho mjy kya krna chaiya .. bike is in waranty period nd jst 11.2k km run
kaaaaaaaaaaaaaash k mn nay is ko rough use keya hota to itna dukh na hota ...any way

[abobobilly]

i cleaned carbn today with cloth so no more still there ...
spark plug ke pic jo aap na uplod ke ha takreebn same he hai .. mine little bit redish bt ring is same sooty black ... tu aap kya kahty ho mjy kya krna chaiya .. bike is in waranty period nd jst 11.2k km run
kaaaaaaaaaaaaaash k mn nay is ko rough use keya hota to itna dukh na hota ...any way

Don't worry. Just ride it as usual. After 100 or 200 kms, check the exhaust again for carbon and do as i asked ... i.e. take a picture, or let me know if its dry or wet.

Btw, warranty period 10,000 kms tak nai hota? :S The condition is 6 months OR 10k kms ... something like that, no?

And don't tire yourself with such puny problems I've been through all that. Just remember ... "Aur bhi gum hain zamanay main ..... " Agar problem nikal bhi aaya ... SO WHAT? Its Repairable ... so why take tension?

[Eur0_2]

Don't worry. Just ride it as usual. After 100 or 200 kms, check the exhaust again for carbon and do as i asked ... i.e. take a picture, or let me know if its dry or wet.

Btw, warranty period 10,000 kms tak nai hota? :S The condition is 6 months OR 10k kms ... something like that, no?

And don't tire yourself with such puny problems I've been through all that. Just remember ... "Aur bhi gum hain zamanay main ..... " Agar problem nikal bhi aaya ... SO WHAT? Its Repairable ... so why take tension?

okz .. i will uplod pics after 200km .

u know better tnstn to hote he hai..agr aap kce cheez ko care k 7 rakho or us ka behaviour aposit ho to .. anyways aaj he warnty policy daikhe the us mn 2 year ya 15k km mention hai ..is lye abhi warnty period hai .

[Eur0_2]

ya phir isy sale kr don nd buy new one

[saboor73]

ya phir isy sale kr don nd buy new one

bro ab is ko sale hi karna chate ho to honda 125 phir kabi nahi le na piaggio 125,suzuki sprinter,ya koi used yamaha junoon lena bohat farq mahsoos karo ge achi bike hai sab liken isse hi ko rehna chate hoto isi euro 2 kit chek kar waoo mai euro 2 kit bar bar is liye keh raha hun kyun k euro 2 kit ka kam hi hai k unburned fuel ko use karna aur exhaust per carbon ka matlab unburned fuel hi hai aur ap ki bike ki aawaz bhi moti ho gai hai tou is ka bhi mujhe ek waja samajh aarahi hai euro kit kyun k euro 2 ki awaz purane model se soft hai

[Eur0_2]

bro ab is ko sale hi karna chate ho to honda 125 phir kabi nahi le na piaggio 125,suzuki sprinter,ya koi used yamaha junoon lena bohat farq mahsoos karo ge achi bike hai sab liken isse hi ko rehna chate hoto isi euro 2 kit chek kar waoo mai euro 2 kit bar bar is liye keh raha hun kyun k euro 2 kit ka kam hi hai k unburned fuel ko use karna aur exhaust per carbon ka matlab unburned fuel hi hai aur ap ki bike ki aawaz bhi moti ho gai hai tou is ka bhi mujhe ek waja samajh aarahi hai euro kit kyun k euro 2 ki awaz purane model se soft hai

hmmm phly mn is ko chek krvano ga kce achay mcanic sa than he kuch deicide krn ga ..kw k 0 meter mn na leya he sirf ice lye tha k long time rakhn ga bt .. in sha ALLAH i will soon visit to honda antaina shop claear ho jy k akhir prblam kya hai..

[Eur0_2]

@abobobilly can u plz guide me about compression ration and ignetion timing coz kce na btaya tha k agr currnt pura na ho to phir b msla hota ha .

[abobobilly]

@abobobilly can u plz guide me about compression ration and ignetion timing coz kce na btaya tha k agr currnt pura na ho to phir b msla hota ha .

Sorry brother, no idea about that I don't understand compression ratios and ignition timings

[Eur0_2]

u can c in pics @abobobilly bro .carbn deposits after 400km its thick dry black at the speed of 60 to 70 km/h however once or two time gv full throtle for 20 secnd ..
i don't knw y... carbn deposit ..already plug changed vd nw one cleaned air filter,installed ful filter , jo kuch kr skta tha keya but result ....00000000000.

[jadoon1992_vxlimited]

u can c in pics @abobobilly bro .carbn deposits after 400km its thick dry black at the speed of 60 to 70 km/h however once or two time gv full throtle for 20 secnd ..
i don't knw y... carbn deposit ..already plug changed vd nw one cleaned air filter,installed ful filter , jo kuch kr skta tha keya but result ....00000000000.

that is too much carbon for a new bike brother. go to a good honda dealer and get it checked as soon as possible. it will be fine soon

[Eur0_2]

that is too much carbon for a new bike brother. go to a good honda dealer and get it checked as soon as possible. it will be fine soon

I knw bro ..bt kuch smj ni aate ky krn...

[abobobilly]

@eur0_2 ! This carbon is after 400kms? BHAI KUCH BHI NAHI HAY. Awein fazool main tension le rahay ho yaar.

First thing first. Get the carb's mixture adjusted from an experienced mechanic. Ask him to "lean" the mixture. Right now, your bike seems to be running on "Rich" mixture.

Also, Just FYI ... jo marzi kar lo. Engine hay ... so carbon to jamay gi exhaust main.

[Eur0_2]

@eur0_2 ! This carbon is after 400kms? BHAI KUCH BHI NAHI HAY. Awein fazool main tension le rahay ho yaar.

First thing first. Get the carb's mixture adjusted from an experienced mechanic. Ask him to "lean" the mixture. Right now, your bike seems to be running on "Rich" mixture.

Also, Just FYI ... jo marzi kar lo. Engine hay ... so carbon to jamay gi exhaust main.

really ...
kal he jano ga phir .. aik new mcanic ka adress mila hai

[Eur0_2]

how to lean mixture of cg 125 e2.... i am little bit confused regarding sitting .
idle mixture screw rotation clockwise mean................ rich or lean ????
and anti clockwise rotation mean ...... rich or lean ????
nd one thing more i wanna ask ....
k honda 125 e2 mn jo idle mixture screw hai vo AIR ka ha ya phir FUEL ka ... i mean k when we rotate its result more air or less ya phir more fuel or less ...
waiting for answr ... @amjad635 bro can u plz help me ... ????

[amjad635]

Clock wise rotation means richer & anti clock wise leans mixture
idle screw or fuel screw clock wise rotation would open it means
allowing more fuel or when you turn it and idle increases means more allowed

Air mixture screw se kaam yeh lena hota hai es se jitni possible ho idle speed le jaaye
air mixture screw ko aap full clock wise rotate karti jaaye janha full band hojaaye
tight na karo jaise h rotate na kare bus chorhdo tight karne se yeh kharaab hojaaega
aur esko bilkul bhi open karke baahir bhi na nikalo ab janha band hai wanha screw ki position
mark kare esko anti clock wise rotate kare aur fuel mixture screw ko bhi thorha kaafi khol di
taake bike start ho aap jaise jaise air mixture screw ko anti clock wise rotate karenge
idle bhi barhti jaaegi janha idle barhna band hojaaye woh setting right hai
meri pridor ka air mixture screw abhi one complete 360 turn than half turn than half of half turn
or in decimal you can its set at 1.75 turns anti clock wise

one turn of air mixture screw is one complete 360 degree rotation of screw
es mein band dokha kha sakta hai mein toh pehle confuse hota tha par ab
mein screw ki position mark karke one end ko note karke usko complete rotation deta
hon aur count karta jaata ho

[alizain5]

yar tappet carefully adjust kro, especially exhaust wala. and carb ki tuning genuine honada 5s sy krwa lo. Or koi fault lagta nhi hy wasy.

[ruk_design]

aik ismain 2 liter high octane fuel b dalwao. or full run kro. woh kafi carbon wagera saaf kr deta hay..

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[aximaxim]

I laughed my dash off going thru this thread........Eur0_2 ...... mere bhai.........mere laal............teri bike bilkul theek hai...... albatta aap ke baaray mein yeh nahi kaha jaa sakta...... hahhahahahah just kidding! (No offense intended)

Dekho bhai...... ideally when petrol (C8H18) combusts with Oxygen (O2) it produces 2 things........ carbon di oxide (CO2) and water (H20)

2C8H18 + 25O2 --------> 16CO2 + 18H2O

Matlab ideally there should not be any carbon deposits. However realistically its almost impossible to get the air fuel mixture 100% right. Just think of it of what your asking...... you are asking a 80's technology carb to mix exactly 2 parts of petrol with 25 parts of oxygen at every revolution of the engine...... bachay ki jaan lo ge kya.

Mere bhai...... CG loses its crispy exhaust note because of carbon deposits in the exhaust......... several people already have told you that........ its inevitable. Your Spark plug tip indicates the air fuel mixture is right on the money...... it should be chocolate brown in color. Cadbury ki chocolate ka jo color hota hai na..... woh hona chahiye.....jo hai.

If you want the same exhaust note back....... clean the exhaust. Indian filmo mein villain ko dekha hai na woh kaisay apni rifle ki naal ko saaf kerta tha......bas gabbar ban jao........ take a straight rod and roll a peice of cotton on its tip and give your CG a colonoscopy.

[vickytulla]

I advised in later posts to use caustic soda it really helps to get the carbon clogged out.. as it is the best option to clean road masters classic exhuast becuase we dont have option to buy new ones every now and then as they are very rare so have to rely on cleaning them until the rip apart.

I laughed my dash off going thru this thread........Eur0_2 ...... mere bhai.........mere laal............teri bike bilkul theek hai...... albatta aap ke baaray mein yeh nahi kaha jaa sakta...... hahhahahahah just kidding! (No offense intended)

Dekho bhai...... ideally when petrol (C8H18) combusts with Oxygen (O2) it produces 2 things........ carbon di oxide (CO2) and water (H20)

2C8H18 + 25O2 --------> 16CO2 + 18H2O

Matlab ideally there should not be any carbon deposits. However realistically its almost impossible to get the air fuel mixture 100% right. Just think of it of what your asking...... you are asking a 80's technology carb to mix exactly 2 parts of petrol with 25 parts of oxygen at every revolution of the engine...... bachay ki jaan lo ge kya.

Mere bhai...... CG loses its crispy exhaust note because of carbon deposits in the exhaust......... several people already have told you that........ its inevitable. Your Spark plug tip indicates the air fuel mixture is right on the money...... it should be chocolate brown in color. Cadbury ki chocolate ka jo color hota hai na..... woh hona chahiye.....jo hai.

If you want the same exhaust note back....... clean the exhaust. Indian filmo mein villain ko dekha hai na woh kaisay apni rifle ki naal ko saaf kerta tha......bas gabbar ban jao........ take a straight rod and roll a peice of cotton on its tip and give your CG a colonoscopy.

[aximaxim]

I advised in later posts to use caustic soda it really helps to get the carbon clogged out.. as it is the best option to clean road masters classic exhuast becuase we dont have option to buy new ones every now and then as they are very rare so have to rely on cleaning them until the rip apart.

Yaar caustic soda will work but do you think its a bit to harsh for the metal....... Buhat corossive hota hai caustic soda. ....... Mein tow mitti ke tail se dhooo liye kerta tha CG ka exhaust...... bend se khol leta tha. Any form of hydro-carbon will work let it be petrol, mitti ka tail or deisel........ all work well. These Hydro-carbon dissolve the carbon in themselves.... bilkul black solution bahar ata hai...... and its not that corossive as a caustic soda.