Corolla Axio X 2007 CVT Issue

[RL589]

JDM HUH:S, ON only 61,000km engine mount is broken , mine corolla 2008 2.od is now 198k , never ever done work in engine and suspension.

my city steermatic is 91k never ever any kind of noise + prob came in cvt tranny MA

[muzamilw]

I also have a Lancer 1.3 2006 with 119k and Allhamdulillah there are no issues.

The AXIO car looks in pristine condition body wise, engine sounds very nice and there are no apparant issues. It's the CVT tranny which is a spoiler... I'm sure the car's ODO has been reversed and it would be around 150k mark since it's a 2007 model...

Inshallah I will find a way to fix it, maybe sell it or spend more money to get it fixed.

[dms664]

Feeling sorry for you mate. Another fellow was claiming that https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/oil-fuel-fluids-filters/227401-jdms-dont-need-tuning

[Xulfiqar]

AOA,

Just got the CVT OIL filter cleaned up ( magnets were pretty much wrapped in particles/dust) and checked for itengrity of OIL and added 1 litr new CVT OIL. Still the problem is there. Mechanic did not recommend to change the fill oil in case we have to go for AVT gear assembly and it will waste all 7 litres )

The issue with engine mounting is very minute and mechanic said no need to change the mounting as problem is very minute.

Although today I noticed the noise and vibration slightly subdued even on low speed and felt little better, not sure whats happening. Can someone elaborate that since it's CVT then why it feels like car is switching gear and there is a slip/noise/vibration when moving from 20km-35kms and this does not happen on initial pikcup or on speed above 40kms. @Xulfiqar please share your thoughts.

Now I am trying to find out a CVT assembly in local market and people are telling me very high prices ( 90-125k) and someone told me to find out if CVT assembly can be imported from Dubai car junk yards. Can someone comment on this or guide maybe. Really appreciate your help.

Muzzammil

If the 1 litre of new CVT fluid helped then your CVT fluid is completely worn out. If you feel this

pull - pull - pull - in high frequency at 35-45 km/h - its supposed to feel like a slipped clutch manual transmission when accelerating.

then the torque converter lockup clutch is chattering. The CVT fluid additives are supposed to take of this and lockup in CVT occurs very early to maximise fuel efficiency.

the particles on the magnet are clutch dust and burnt oil along with normal wear of parts.

The price of a fresh CVT unit is nearly Rs 350,000/- you can get a mechanic to rebuild it for you but make sure to use 100% new genuine parts (soft ones like clutches and seals) - the cvt pulley stack and chain is also considered wear part and can cause noise if extremely worn out. I have never seen it but have heard of it from some rebuilders I know. OTOH I have seen broken chains of Honda city gearboxes due to cooling failure or wrong oil choice, btw Honda CVT is the worst CVT fluid in the world just like their ATFs (useless)

all in all - this is all normal ownership cost of such a car - its a JDM import meaning no local technical support and no guarantee of availability of parts.

[bk7690]

@xulfiqar bhai, which CVT oil would you recommend then for Honda?

[warewolf1]

@xulfiqar... bhai please recommend ATF and engine oil for 2001 prosmatec also... now that its been declared useless by you

Currently I m using Honda ATF and Honda engine oil... everything stock... odo at 150,000 approx.

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[SyedMoazzam]

JDM HUH:S, ON only 61,000km engine mount is broken , mine corolla 2008 2.od is now 198k , never ever done work in engine and suspension.

my city steermatic is 91k never ever any kind of noise + prob came in cvt tranny MA

Sir this is not concerned with pldm ot jdm
It depends upon whether it has been badly abused or taken care of
If the previous owner has hever taken care of the car and never had changed cvt oil or filter in time then these problems are bound to happen
So stop this pkdm and jdm war
Every machine needs care to run smoothly

[Xulfiqar]

@Xulfiqar bhai, which CVT oil would you recommend then for Honda?

Toyota CVT fluid is good and so is eneos CVT fluid.

@Xulfiqar... bhai please recommend ATF and engine oil for 2001 prosmatec also... now that its been declared useless by you

Currently I m using Honda ATF and Honda engine oil... everything stock... odo at 150,000 approx.

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for ATF in Honda mobil1 is better than the poor ATF Honda sells. Be sure to use the ATF of mobil1 that says multivehicle, otherwise you need some friction modifier in a bottle (lubegard etc) to blend with full synthetic ATF.

[muzamilw]

AOA @xulfiqar,

Please share which location/store is best to get authentic Toyota CVT fluid or eneos CVT. Kindly do share the price per litre.
Also could you be kind enough to share any knowledgeable mechanic's details who can look at the Axio CVT issue and guide me , perhaps maybe rebuild it for me.
thanks a lot.
Assalam-o-alaiakum

[warewolf1]

@xulfiqar
Please suggest engine oil as well... and its change interval. Currently I use Honda oil and change it around 4500km...

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[StrikerX]

AOA @Xulfiqar,

Please share which location/store is best to get authentic Toyota CVT fluid or eneos CVT. Kindly do share the price per litre.
Also could you be kind enough to share any knowledgeable mechanic's details who can look at the Axio CVT issue and guide me , perhaps maybe rebuild it for me.
thanks a lot.
Assalam-o-alaiakum

Go to any Toyota dealership (3S) for oil. Its Toyota CVT-TC and its for around 4500-5000 for a 4L can.

[Xulfiqar]

@Xulfiqar
Please suggest engine oil as well... and its change interval. Currently I use Honda oil and change it around 4500km...

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buy a genuine honda filter and any API SJ rated 10W40 or 5W30 oil. It will work nice - usual change interval is 5000~6000 kms.

[hash4u]

@muzamilw
i know this guy who ruined his axio tranny(its a awd model)---never bothered to change cvt oil till it failed
changed the brakes when the brake paddle sunk to floor---carefree guy
total swap cost was 80,000 here in pindi

y r u getting quotations of 1.25 lacs in lhr

[jtariq.73]

i face exactly the same problem. i have a 2007 fielder awd. the problem is that the response of car to acceleration is not up to the mark. the rpm meter revs up but the speed does not increase . feels like the power is not being transmitted to the wheels. its ok ( i think) in low speeds with ligh foot on accelerator. but the moment you press the foot down, you sense something is not right. changed cvt oil recently. did not help too much. what else can be done before knowing for sure that the gear box needs repalcement. plus what is the price estimates for transmission replacement? and what is a good place to get the car checked in detail? i am in islamabad.

[mwaheed]

AOA,
@hash4u Lahore's market is too hot I guess and part hoarders are hoarding the CVT + engines as these are used in premio, AXIO and fielder. Could you point me out where in pindi full CVT tranny can be bought for less ? I am also getting information from DXB if cvt tanny can be bought from there for less.

I am definitely going to get the tranny repaired, first attempt will be to get it repaired rather replacing it. if this works then awesome otherwise will go for CVR replacement. Let's see what Allah has planned for me.

[mwaheed]

AOA,

@hash4u Lahore's market is too hot I guess and part hoarders are hoarding the CVT + engines as these are used in premio, AXIO and fielder. Could you point me out where in pindi full CVT tranny can be bought for less ? I am also getting information from DXB if cvt tanny can be bought from there for less.

I am definitely going to get the tranny repaired, first attempt will be to get it repaired rather replacing it. if this works then awesome otherwise will go for CVR replacement. Let's see what Allah has planned for me.

[ahmedk06]

firstly your transmission has no gears its a cvt.

secondly the prices are pretty cheap for repair. is the mechanic using junkyard parts?

if the oil additives are worn out the transmission may feel like its having stick-slip problems. immediate change is required. you also report of noise. that is major bad news in any transmission whether cvt or not.

also test for water contamination of the cvt fluid

Hi
I have a city 2004 vario cvt in hand nowadays for daily use. Its driven on petrol from day 1 and has no problems in transmission. I was thinking of getting the cvt oil changed. What do u recommend . Shall i get the chamber down and get it cleaned or just replace the cvt oil in it. You have also mentioned that genuine cvt oil of honda is not upto mark in lubrication. Shall i put in the toyota cvt oil. I drive on m2 a lot at speeds between 120-135km/hr. Also is 4 ltr enough. What about the leftover oil in system. The pull of car is excellent and i do not feel.any slippage. Car has 150k on odo with regular service from honda. Though honda technical team is amateur so was thinking of getting the oil changed from another workshop.
Regards

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[hash4u]

^^
my colleague bought a exi prosmatec from my cousin
i asked him to get the gear oil changed. he went to honda i-10
the head mechanic said,
we drain from the nut and top oil
we do not put the gear down to drain....thats not in thr SOP

[hash4u]

@mwaheed
Mithu khan/ gawalmandi area pindi saddar is the area my friends bro got his axio CVT replaced from

[03014040847]

AOA, Dear Xulfiqar bhai i am from Lahore and i replaced my CVT gear box 3 months ago from Bilal Ghang with qabli one.
After replacement CVT gear box i am facing a problem, when i move gear on D it is taking 10 seconds to move car and feel little vibration but in beginning it was working good can you please tell me the problem, other all things are working fine.
My car is Honda Fit Aria 2006 model with 1.5 engine,
I am using Honda CVT Fluid,
Replaecment time i was filled new 5 ltr CVT fluid