DFSK Glory 580 PRO - new 7 seater SUV in 4.5+ million

[tariqazama]

Except Peshawar, it is very very rare that u can find a genuine part in all other cities of kpk. And same is situation in majority of cities across pakistan. Once my side turn signal lamp of my corolla was broken . I went to toyota dikhan motors to buy a genuine one. But only chinese copy was available. Just imagine it was not available they replied sir mehenga hay genuine koi nai laita. I had to order it from a Toyota dealer in Multan. Its an ordinary part, majority of mechanical parts are even not available in Rawalpindi,islamabad and Lahore also.

[bmuqtadir]

Karachi. Honda support is absolutely terrible. Can't find Axle boots for my brv.

[Panther]

Get hold of guy from parts central. He can source genuine parts for all brands.

[bmuqtadir]

Thanks Will check

[mustafasethi]

Dear Hammad sb,

i am interested in Glory due to its 7 seats . Currently i own a brv and i am looking to upgrade.

but once or twice a year i visit naran, hunza etc.

i would like to ask you if there is any problem while climbing on an incline in glory. Do you think that it can climb from Chilas to Babusar top without any problem, and most of the time you have to stop the car on that incline because the car in front of you is stopped. so for stop and go on an incline with 7 persons or full load, could this car be able to manage.

I cannot buy sportage due to only 5 seats and I am only in the market for a seven seater only. so please give your honest opinion about this point and also about the comfort of the last (third) row of seats.
Regards

[mgalaxy3]

Do not consider Glory 580 1.5 turbo.

It has issues everywhere with its transmission that often fails on even slight inclines.

Apparently the new CVT transmission in Glory 580 PRO 1.5 don't have that issue and it was fixed.

Glory 580 1.5 (non pro) has had lawsuits initiated for the transmission failure on inclines.

[shapeesh]

the engine should be fine , infact turbo engines can perform better than NA engines at higher altitudes. THe CVT is the comcern here, CVTs are not really meant for heights and would get hot often.

[mgalaxy3]

Lol CVTs are perfectly fine.

Glory 580 1.5 cvt only has issues.

Tons of cars from other manufacturers and CVT climb just fine. Even 1.0 Vitz CVT climbs mountains just fine.

[shapeesh]

agreed, but you are comparing a toyota built CVT with a punch built cvt. Even nissan is still facing lawsuits on its CVTs. CVTs are very good but for such high torque engines? I myself have a maxima 3.5 cvt. the CVT has been changed once already. That again is a v high torque car

[pwuser158876067996]

brv

How is the performance of brv on that route of chilas to babusar?

[mustafasethi]

Dear Muhammad Alee

I have visited patriata , bhurban and murree in it and I have found that it is stronger than corolla 1.3 2007 -2008 model which i also have . I have brv manual which is better than cvt because cvt can get damaged easily. however if honda had been selling brv with normal automatic, then i would have purchased it as normal automatic gears are tough.

but please remember that normal automatic gears eat up minimum 12% engine power (reduction) and cvt reduces 18 % plus.

had I purchased brv cvt i would have certainly faced problem while going to patriata with full load of 7 persons plus luggage.

My car however failed to climb at one incline but my tires were slipping and i reversed and then raced up . but next time on this incline i took the wide turn with no problem as the other cars were doing.

Regarding climb from Chilas to Babusar top, my old car toyota 1.3 had a lot of difficulty doing it with full load of 5 persons plus luggage. I thanked god when i reached the top.

Also there is problem of low oxygen pressure which is another reason why the cars don't climb up easily. For my reply to your question, you will have to wait till August as that is when I will visit Hunza and only then can i truly answer your question, because this is the main point which tests your cars engine power fully.

please note that brv has a special engine with low gearing so basically this is the main reason for its good pick. it goes from 0 to 100 in 10 seconds.

but if you don't have a large family (5 persons or more) then go for yaris

my milage of manual brv was around 13.75 km per litre from visiting murree. driving speed was from 100 to 120. for best milage you have to use the 6th gear. so if you have a large family then definitely go for brv, otherwise you don't need to. but after driving brv , even if i didn't have a large family , i think i would have still purchased it. it gives you full utility. it has a light steering and abs brakes even in the manual.

however i missed CRUISE CONTROL as on long distance this would have helped in maintaining car speed, and person would have been more relaxed. but mostly in manual cars cruise control is not available. Also manual does not have immobilizer. but i think and also talking with the honda staff i have come to know that immobilizer causes problems and your own car sometimes does not start.
i am a family man and i needed a car which did not have any problems. So if you have a large family or you sometimes need to carry more persons than go for it definitely and you will be well satisfied

regards

[mustafasethi]

i am also interested in glory but i have read that it has problems on incline. but i will visit showroom and sit in the last row seat to actually decide.

another problem would be that parts would not be available easily and this is a very big problem

[mgalaxy3]

i am also interested in glory but i have read that it has problems on incline. but i will visit showroom and sit in the last row seat to actually decide.

the glory 1.5 (non-Pro) has issues on inclines.

the one that just released (1.5 PRO) might be fine they seem to have fixed the issue.

[mgalaxy3]

I have brv manual which is better than cvt because cvt can get damaged easily. however if honda had been selling brv with normal automatic, then i would have purchased it as normal automatic gears are tough.

had I purchased brv cvt i would have certainly faced problem while going to patriata with full load of 7 persons plus luggage.

These are false assumptions based on reading fake news and non-technical info.

All modern CVTs at least from Toyota and Honda are perfectly fine, in fact, even better than manual specially on mountains/hills.

Much safer and fool-proof driving with an automatic / CVT than manual on mountains.

Just put it in S and enjoy. It will never get damaged.

On the other hand, its very easy to damage a manual on hills.

This is a car forum, so please think twice before making fake claims like "cvt easily damages". Many people will easily debunk it.

[umairalizafar]

Also to add, cruise control can be added to manual cars. It is just some weird problem with Pakistani assemblers that they don't provide it. An added switch needs to be installed with the clutch in case of manual cars, which disables cruise control when clutch is pressed, along with the brakes in automatic cars.

[lalacars]

Had DSFK Glory 580 PRO production Started???

Why the delivery lead time???

What will be the monthly production capacity??

[mustafasethi]

Do you know any person who has climbed from Chilas to Babusar top with full load on brv s (cvt) ? If so then please provide link .

Regarding CVT, i have discussed this point with Toyota Link Road and Honda Link Road and their engineers say that cvt is more delicate than the normal auto gear, but more fuel efficient.

The toyota engineer told me that one of their models cvt become non functional after just 2 days and the buyer had to wait for 6 weeks for them to import a new cvt for fitting in his car under warrenty. he told me the cost of the cvt was 12 lac rupees at that time.

So i am not making any false assumptions, please ask around for the cost of a new cvt for toyota and honda and your eyes will open. even cvt cannot be repaired while normal auto can be repaired. also cvt life is less than the normal auto

honda mechanic also told me that even though the oil change time of cvt trans is 40, 000 km, but we tell people to change them around 20,000 km

[mustafasethi]

please also give link which shows that ''cvt does not damage easily".

Another point is that people express their opinions in this forum .

Regarding glory, I haven't read anywhere that the problem of climbing inclines has been solved. this is the problem with the 1.5 T.
one would think if the manual 1.5. T stopped on an incline, then just pressing the clutch and pressing the accelerator and taking the rpm to around 3800 , then the turbo would be up and running but still there was a problem in incline climbing, then seriously the company should come out and publically declare that they have solved this problem.

if you have a link about this point then please also post the same

[mustafasethi]

I have been visiting murree at least once a year since 1984. First i had 81' corolla then 84 corolla and then 88 reconditioned corolla , khyber and cultus and then corolla 08 and now brv.

please explain just how easily can a manual gear box get damaged ?. your this point is not at all clear

[shapeesh]

CVTs are delicate and need care. I currently have a nissan maxima V6, its a 3,5 litre car with CVT, probably the higest torque CVT (its 350+ NM the cvt has toi handle from a VQ35) and I have it replaced once already. Now the newer models have lesser issues, but usualy steep hills and constant toerquing of CVT with high loads is a recipe for disaster.
CVTs are also not good for repairs, In my case it was cheaper for me to get a used replacement CVT than get mine repaired.
Also keep in mind that glory has a punch made cvt while toyota nissan and honda etc manufacture their own and are at the top of the CVT game.