Duplicate card- How much value should be deducted?

[abdulhananch123]

Iam thinking about purchasing city aspire 2018 fully loaded, the one with the wooden texture, alloy rims, leather seats and fog lamps. My only concern is that its duplicate card the owner says he lost it, so i wanna figure out how much value should be deducted from the cars original price. As far as i know the price for this car with all original documents availible is around 36-37 lacs but the owner of this car has demanded 35 lacs. I want your opinion on what should be the price for it and what are the risks of duplicate card?

[jklodhi]

I think 35 with duplicate card is reasonable price as owner has already catered for it. You may try to bargain to 33 but i doubt that he would agree.

[abdulhananch123]

i consulted my mechanic and a few other people and they say that you should deduct atleast 5-6 lac from original. What do you thinnk? is that reasonable enough? or 2-3 lac deduction is reasonable?

[dayrider]

5 lac minimum, and remember, it won't sell. 8 out of 10 walk away from duplicate card cars because its always a hassle and never the story which the owner claims

[abdulhananch123]

Shukria

[hash4u]

least we can do is stop spreading around this dealer mindset
although i understand the buyer also needs to secure what he buys
but yai 5 lac wali loot ziadti hai

[dayrider]

The buyer has to be secure. So many cases where lost documents results in court cases due multiple ownership claims. Honesty is non existent and so is transparency, without the presence of both, buying a vehicle with duplicate papers is as good as buying a car with dodgy papers

[hash4u]

duplicate smart card is issued after police FIR
news paper AD
double verification of everything
mazaak nahi

[pwuser166331039855]

There is no hard & fast rule that this much amount to be deducted if the card is duplicate.
However generally people claim special discount in price (as penalty of duplicate card), which can be anywhere from 50K to 500K totally depending on the desperation levels of seller & buyer.

However for re-sales of such vehicles, don’t ask me how much Nakhray people do. They treat seller like agent of black market trying to sell restricted items. And its all mechanics who has imposed their sick mentality on the buyers/investors.
A card is a handy thing and can be lost.

Yahan pay to log 1970s ki garian bhi genuine dhoondty hain kay koi touching waching to nai

[dayrider]

mazaak nahi

Hashim bhai, baba-e-quaid. Aur kuch nahi, sub khud ba khud clear.
Thats the biggest reason no one wants a duplicate card or file.

Just a small similar yet different example, i once bought a car, whose offical owner had 2 ID cards(something that i learned after i applied for transfer), aik ghum gya. Dosra banwaya, pehla mil gya, dono use karna shoro.
He gave me the old card for transfer, case submit, haulted after a few days, upon enquiry, fraud ka fine lag gya, i called the fellow, he said, oho, acha, mein ap ko dosra daita hoon, ap un ko kaho k fraud k lye mujhe pakray.

Bakay ap khud dekh lain

[jklodhi]

If it is computerised duplicate card then it can be verified from excise and it should be trouble free

[pwuser152138562243]

There is no valid reason for a car’s price to drop simply because it has a duplicate smart card. This is an unfair practice driven by outdated perceptions. In the past, when vehicle registrations were maintained on paper books, losing the original document could create complications. However, with modern smart cards, all ownership records are securely stored with the excise department. The smart card contains a barcode that can be scanned for instant verification.

In fact, a duplicate smart card indicates that the car’s ownership has been recently verified and reissued, making it even more reliable. Yet, in Pakistan, there is a misguided belief that a duplicate card reduces a vehicle’s value. The same flawed logic applies to repainted cars—while people worldwide repaint their vehicles for a fresh look without affecting resale value, in Pakistan, buyers irrationally prefer faded paint over a well-maintained appearance due to resale concerns.

This mindset is outdated and needs to change. There is no legitimate reason for resale value to drop due to a duplicate smart card or a fresh coat of paint.

[dayrider]

There is no legitimate reason for resale value to drop due to a duplicate smart card or a fresh coat of paint.

The legitimate reason is that people lie. Too many cheats, duplicate cards are issued by cheats as well, and then later legal issues occur when the original documents show up and a fued between owners start.
Same is the story with repaint, in this country, people mostly lie about accidental cars not being accidental, so to avoid the hassle of having to verify how badly hit and if properly repaired, people just avoid painted cars altogether.

Since there is no justice system, lots of trickery around, hence why both repainted and duplicate books are cheaper

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