Fully synthetic oil after odo 85000 km

[060276]

so whats the final VERDICT ??

Plus ....I have also city 2011, Driven around 62K ....using Honda genuine oil 10W-30, which is from caltex...

[asamieh]

so whats the final VERDICT ??

Plus ....I have also city 2011, Driven around 62K ....using Honda genuine oil 10W-30, which is from caltex...

I believe we are on the same page then....

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[asamieh]

Using Semi Synthetic MOS2 in my 200k driven City. MOS2 keeps the high mileage engine very happy.

Tried Fully Synthetic 5W40 LM in my 107k Driven Civic . Nothing too impressive, lets see how much it lasts. It previously always ran on Honda 5W30 Fully synthetic (the Total Quartz one). Tried LM to see if i can achieve anything over 9KM/PL. Did not help.

Might just go for the usual Honda which is almost half the price.

Any Idea about the Caltex Fully Synthetic ?

How would u rate the mos2 oil of LM... whats the drain interval?

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[asamieh]

5w 30 would be a good option in summers as well here In pakistan? Or 5w 40 would be better?

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[syncview]

5w 30 would be a good option in summers as well here In pakistan? Or 5w 40 would be better?

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5w-30 all year, no need to change

we're talking about the shell helix ultra E

Shell Helix Ultra E - Shell Pakistan

or you can also use mobil1 0w-40

http://www.mobil.com/Pakistan-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_0W-40.aspx

both are recommended oils for the city with L13 engine

[asamieh]

5w-30 all year, no need to change

we're talking about the shell helix ultra E

Shell Helix Ultra E - Shell Pakistan

Got it... any idea about its price and drain interval?

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[syncview]

price was around 3600 last I purchased around a month ago

i'm draining it between 5000 to 7000 kilometers, maybe it can run much more than that but no means to test

[asamieh]

price was around 3600 last I purchased around a month ago

i'm draining it between 5000 to 7000 kilometers, maybe it can run much more than that but no means to test

Do u really think shell helix ultra is better or near to LM oils.. cz 3600 is a good price tag in comparison to LM Mos2 (3900) n fully synthetic (4900)

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[syncview]

Yes

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[fahadwizz]

How would u rate the mos2 oil of LM... whats the drain interval?

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MOS2 is just an additive. You can add it to almost any oil as it is also available separately.

Since city 200k driven city engine is so old, adding MOS2 quitened it up a little along with a feeling of smoothness. I would'nt add it to a car with less miles. If you have an old beat up motor, you can test it. Otherwise just stick to the normal semi/fully synthetic oils available in the market as other have suggested.

A lot of people have also tested LM Ceretec in old motors but i couldnt do it after reading the description since it sticks on to the internals and hard to take off. MOS2 on the other hand can be drained with an oil change.

[fahadwizz]

I know its called lubromoly - no - its usually stocked at NAPA auto parts and stays there for ages because no one buys them, 1 super expensive stuff man, 2 - its a bit inferior to other brands that are available for less money.

e.g. LM oils usually go for USD 40/- for a 5 litre bottle, while you can buy a Penzzoil Ultra 5w30, Mobil1 0w40, 5w30, 15w50 etc. bottle of 5 qts for USD 25/- from walmart.

Oil lab tests have proven that the ultra and zero chalees mobil 1 are very strong oils and are good to their claim. There are tons of other brands like Citgo, Mystik, Kendall, Chevron, LE, Swepco etc that make very stout lubricants.

LM has a few products I like, one is their diesel purge, another is their intake valve cleaner - very nice products, but their oils.. no I'll pass. Infact the customer base of LM oils that Ive met is usually a snob driving a german car that literally say - that its a german car hence requires german oil.. lol

May be i should just get the shell synthetic next time... Can get it on the shell fuel card :o

[GoodMan7]

If you think their packaging lies- hold them in court! You know deep down inside you are wrong.
Is there any evidence that Lm oils last more than others. You just made a wild guess!
Does LM have more approvals than shell, mobil1,etc?

hmm - so an oil with weak add packs and a low quality base stock is better than one with a better stock and stronger pack? Now if you had recommended Amsoil - yes that would make sense but why this??

Well, my observations goes more ahead that.
Do you know what is the most hot item of LM in Pak? I believe its synthoil high tech 5/40 and MOS2 10/40.
Now, lets take the example of 5/40.
It has ACEA approval rating of A3/B3 (means high performance and longer drain intervals).
But here is something that goes beyond the observation of a common person.
The most latest standards of A3/B3 are of 2008 (latest one they have A5/B5 too, but lets take example of A3/B3 only for sake of discussions). And if some oil meets these standards, then they mention it as A3-08/B3-08. Here -08 stands for year 2008.
Now if you look at LM?s high tech bottle, then it states A3-04/B3-04. I believe you got what I want to explain here.

This is 2014, but yet the LM?s 5/40 oil is meeting the old standards of year 2004. This is only because Pakistanis don?t have that much latest technology engines in cars who needs latest oils specs.

Lets take example of Molygen 5/50 also. Its absolutely new product and fully synthetic. But this is of ?SJ grade?. Means its good for 2001 and before vehicles. Technically this oil cannot be used where sm grade is required.

Bottom line, Pak. Caltex, pso, shell, may producing the oils of latest specs. But yet they cannot compete the German oils of having old standards.

A represents ratings for gasoline engine oils.
B represents ratings for diesel engine oils.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 represents their latest standards.

[asamieh]

Coming back to the original question.... Refraining from the oil brand war...

Should I use Fully synthetic oil in a 85000 km run engine???

[GoodMan7]

Coming back to the original question.... Refraining from the oil brand war...

Should I use Fully synthetic oil in a 85000 km run engine???

a big yes.

[asamieh]

a big yes.

Engine Flush as well? or just pour in the new oil?

[GoodMan7]

Engine Flush as well? or just pour in the new oil?

You have ran car till 85k on purely mineral oils. Now want to go for fully synthetic, then its good to use engine flush. Its not very much necessary either if you go for oil change right after enough driving when engine is quite hot.
By the way, you are going to choose which synthetic oil?

[asamieh]

Not decided yet... I still have 2000 KM on odo for thinking and changing the oil

Currently i have three options under consideration:

1. LM Fully synthetic 5W - 40 (Rs. 4900)
2. Shell Helix Ultra E 5W-30 (Rs. 3600)
3. LM Semi synthetic MOS2 10W -40 (Rs. 3900)

[asamieh]

You have ran car till 85k on purely mineral oils. Now want to go for fully synthetic, then its good to use engine flush. Its not very much necessary either if you go for oil change right after enough driving when engine is quite hot.
By the way, you are going to choose which synthetic oil?

Whats the max mileage we can get from the 3 oils i have mentioned....

[Xulfiqar]

Well, my observations goes more ahead that.
Do you know what is the most hot item of LM in Pak? I believe its synthoil high tech 5/40 and MOS2 10/40.
Now, lets take the example of 5/40.
It has ACEA approval rating of A3/B3 (means high performance and longer drain intervals).
But here is something that goes beyond the observation of a common person.
The most latest standards of A3/B3 are of 2008 (latest one they have A5/B5 too, but lets take example of A3/B3 only for sake of discussions). And if some oil meets these standards, then they mention it as A3-08/B3-08. Here -08 stands for year 2008.
Now if you look at LM?s high tech bottle, then it states A3-04/B3-04. I believe you got what I want to explain here.

This is 2014, but yet the LM?s 5/40 oil is meeting the old standards of year 2004. This is only because Pakistanis don?t have that much latest technology engines in cars who needs latest oils specs.

Lets take example of Molygen 5/50 also. Its absolutely new product and fully synthetic. But this is of ?SJ grade?. Means its good for 2001 and before vehicles. Technically this oil cannot be used where sm grade is required.

Bottom line, Pak. Caltex, pso, shell, may producing the oils of latest specs. But yet they cannot compete the German oils of having old standards.

A represents ratings for gasoline engine oils.
B represents ratings for diesel engine oils.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 represents their latest standards.

Yes I know what the ACEA ratings are - thank you for the enlightenment.

You are saying that one should pay MORE money for an inferior product? WOW!! Salute to you.

[tintin1]

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