Geely Gleagle IG to be cheaper than Tata Nano

[AutoCrat]

I feel that TATA India way batter than other.because concept of TATA Nano India is provide security for famaily member (Minimum 4 member)lower middle income group those could not afford to buy car and complail to travling by bikes in India. For this purpose we have Nano. Look at interial of TATA Nano... http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2009/03/24-tata-nano/Tata-Nano-Interior-lg.jpg If you look closely interial of Geely Gleagle IG we can seen there are three sites (chairs) These types vichels we call as auto in India but Geely Gleagle IG great outlook compair to auto. http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/U1930P33T148D345375F5369DT200903300.jpg please copy past source for view picture both vicheles

what language is that?

[nickatnite]

what language is that?

Why bother deciphering?. All these threads keep propping up just because so many here(not all) are jealous of the progression of the Indian auto industry into the top ten list , while in Pak they're still stuck in the 1980's and any new car that comes along is priced in the stratosphere so the average cannot buy. There's no need for Indians to be apolegetic or even offer an explanation. As long as this site is open to all, and there are many PW members who are genuinely interested in the Indian auto scene as anywhere else, i see no problem at all. Let threads like this one keep propping up and we have a good natured laugh about all the comments.

And, as far as the Chinese, they have pumped in billions of dollars into the Indian auto industry, mainly to prop up GM(India) and are all set to directly enter the Indian auto market next year with their affordable but latest models from Chery and BYD. BYD already operates an integrated auto ancillary plant near Chennai which produces all moulded components for their automobiles. These components are shipped from here to China. This is just one example and i won't even bother to expand more. Anyways, nice seeing all these pics of Chinese made cars and i appreciate the effort made especially by @Usman... That's it.

This IG is cute but it's a concept and we shall see whan it makes it's presence on the road, shall we?.How many years from now, i wonder?. Till then, hootie tootie....

[UsmanAnsari]

^ i believe the last para of the title post has brought all the fury to this thread

[AutoCrat]

There's no need for Indians to be apolegetic or even offer an explanation

Nick, its not about being apologetic. Its about showcasing our automobile scenario to our neighbor friends who share the same passion for cars as we do, and You are doing a great job here over the years. We gain a lot of knowledge about different aspects of life in our neighboring country through forums like these and I feel its our responsibility to contribute positively so that it leaves a better image about us and future entrants would be welcomed warmly.

Now, as any other such forums there is bound to be some hostility and flaming which I try my best to ignore. As a senior poster and moderator of this forum, you know it better than most. But when there is a genuine case of misinformation being propagated (like the last para of title post, not sure if its meant to be satirical) then I think its upon us to correct it. If you read my very first post in this thread, that is what I did as simply as I can.

Regarding China, whether anyone likes it or not, both India and China are bound to be formidable if not dominant players on the world auto scene in the days to come. Despite billions of dollars of investment its virtually impossible for Chinese companies to overrun our auto market and IMO will take some effort to even capture a decent chunk of it. The Indian auto industry is quite robust and plays on its own unique strengths and its share is bound to grow further. Both countries already have huge and growing markets to cater to, so its unrealistic to expect that their better energies are used only to capture each others' markets. We are forgetting that its a two way street, all the major Indian auto giants have serious plans to enter China and we already see traces of this happening.

Finally, I strongly believe trade (just like art) is a great healer and leads to improvement in relations between hostile nations. It happened between US and Japan, its happening between Japan and China and its bound to happen between China and India. Tomorrow if relations improved and Indian cars are sold in Pakistan, we like it if our friends across the border embrace them, don't we?

[TrueEye]

Why bother deciphering?. All these threads keep propping up just because so many here(not all) are jealous of the progression of the Indian auto industry into the top ten list , while in Pak they're still stuck in the 1980's and any new car that comes along is priced in the stratosphere so the average cannot buy. There's no need for Indians to be apolegetic or even offer an explanation. As long as this site is open to all, and there are many PW members who are genuinely interested in the Indian auto scene as anywhere else, i see no problem at all. Let threads like this one keep propping up and we have a good natured laugh about all the comments.

Lets get things in proper proportion before we all get a bit too emotional.. as we do quite often..

First of all, chuck this very delusional complex out of your head that someone is jealous of your country's progression in the auto-industry.. For a country with its population running well into the billions, its no wonder then, that business (not just auto industry, but across the board) is doing good there with more foreign investment pouring in to tap into the high growth market to seize their share.. so thats a given

Secondly, I'd advise you to do some research before you spread baloney and misinformation over the forums.. for starters, cars in pakistan are not "stratospherically" priced, but contrary to the general belief, they in fact are priced lower than your market.. to prove my point, consider the following pricing structures of the indian and the pakistani markets for the top specced Corolla and Civic respectively..

Indian Corolla 1.8VL = INR1,383,730 ; translates into US$29,925 @46.24
Pakistani Corolla 1.8 Altis AT SR = PKR1,869,000 ; translates into US$22,064 @84.71

Indian Civic 1.8V AT = INR 1,440,000 (add upto INR88,576 for the inspire grade) ; translates into US$31,141 @46.24
Pakistani Civic VTi Oriel Prosmatec = PKR 1,869,000 ; translates into US$22,064 @84.71

So effectively,

Indian Corolla 1.8VL = US$29,925
Pakistani Corolla 1.8 Altis AT SR = US$22,064
Difference = Indians paying US$7,861 more on every single unit..

Indian Civic 1.8V AT = US$31,141
Pakistani Civic VTi Oriel Prosmatec = US$22,064
Difference = Indians paying US$9,077 more on every single unit (that too, not factoring in the extra they have to pay for the upmarket grade)

Now who's paying "stratospheric" prices for their cars.. again?

Note: The prices are taken from their corresponding websites, and they - along with the exchange rates - might not be up to date, but you get the general idea..

This IG is cute but it's a concept and we shall see whan it makes it's presence on the road, shall we?.How many years from now, i wonder?. Till then, hootie tootie....
By 2012 it will have hit the roads, and by 2015, a hybrid will have also been thrown into the mix...

For once, lets not be too obsessed and overprotective about the stuff that we use to spruik.. being objective is one of the attributes of a true gentleman.. there's nothing personal on such public forums. I considered Adam Revo as crappy as the tata Nano, if not any crappier (and I dont even give a rat's a$$ if that would offend some touchy feely soul for that matter) .. so lets just not cry foul every time someone speaks against your beloved Nano (acting ones age helps :rolleyes:) and lets take discerning views in a positive manner while trying to accept them.. the more you guys become unreasonably protective about something, the more you can expect a beating from people like me..

[stonedsaint]

^

[Xeo]

Hear Hear!!!

TrueEye for president

[2468]

Ok leave yaar Nono is better now sleep tight !

[nickatnite]

Note: The prices are taken from their corresponding websites, and they - along with the exchange rates - might not be up to date, but you get the general idea..

"Hatred can lead to delusion,
Delusion can lead to derangement,
Derangement can lead to destruction of mind,
Destruction of mind can lead to self-destruction."

[Xeo]

"Hatred can lead to delusion,
Delusion can lead to derangement,
Derangement can lead to destruction of mind,
Destruction of mind can lead to self-destruction."

Why don't ya just answer with facts rather then getting all philosophical on us!

[nickatnite]

Why don't ya just answer with facts rather then getting all philosophical on us!

I did!. This was the only fitting answer that automatically came to my mind in response to the lecture on exchange rates by the esteemed PW member.

[sanerider]

So called "Luxury" cars in India are taxed way too Much.No Comparison,Average Middle Class in India Sustains on Maruti Swift/Ritz and the kind of Hatchbacks while in Sri Lanka or Pakistan ,They are on 'rollas and their kinds(sedans).
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By The Way ,Not All Came here(from India) to flaunt the Indian Auto Industry(but to learn about What We Miss compared to Neighbours;Genuine to Know;No Contests).In fact, We too have our government and suzuki collaboration "tin factory" which has earned some obsession by the Average folks and Yes, RIP Maruti 800!

[TrueEye]

I did!. This was the only fitting answer that automatically came to my mind in response to the lecture on exchange rates by the esteemed PW member.

ohhh puuhleeez ... dont make a laughing stock out of yourself any further.. Thats not the first time that I've burst your bubble and shown you the daylight... And every single time you've chickened out by coming up with some useless infantile stuff.. seriously, why on earth have you even emboldened the "exchange rates" in my post?:S didn't quite get the logic behind that..what is it that you really wanted to highlight?? or was it yet another failed attempt on your part to salvage some dignity by trying to act a smarty-pants?

[lotus]

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[UsmanAnsari]

From: Economic Times June 02, 2010

General Motors may use its Chinese associations to launch a rival for Tata Nano in India, a top company executive told ET.

"We will look at every market segment and I wouldn't rule out anything," said Timothy E Lee, president, GM International Operations, when asked about competing in India's new entry-level segment.

The US carmaker believes its joint venture with Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC), one of the top three automakers in China, will help it introduce a car to compete with the world's cheapest car at Rs 1 lakh.

GM's small cars already in India such as Chevrolet Beat, Spark and Aveo are designed in South Korea, at erstwhile Daewoo Motors.

"When you harvest from your partnerships the collective wisdom of other cultures, it's incredible what you can do," Mr Lee said.

This marks a u-turn in the US carmaker's earlier stand when its global officials indicated that they did not think the Nano segment was viable for the company.
But now GM bets on its China connection to break new grounds. SAIC has already acquired 50% stake in GM India.

The first products from General Motors' three-way joint venture in China with Wuling and SAIC will be introduced in India end 2011 when it will roll out two minivans — Wuling Rongguang and Sunshine. These will be built at GM India's Talegaon and Halol plants.

"The portfolio of GM, SAIC and SGMW will be looked at for India," said Mr Lee.

GM India now has access to the complete portfolio of GM, SAIC as well as the SAIC-GM-Wuling Automobile Company combine to be introduced in the country, said Mr Lee.

http://autonews.gasgoo.com/auto-news/1015408/GM-may-launch-Nano-rival-in-India-with-Chinese-help.html

[Bombaywalla]

This car looks like my little brother's hot wheels miniature. Ridiculous for sure, though not bad as a concept; it's got the bells and whistles to attract the masses who don't particularly have good taste. This one is better proportioned than the Nano, but just as daft looking as a door-knob (I'm thinking of the Hyundai i-10's front end whilst I type this). The only reason I'd have Nanos slicking through our urban centres is if they can somehow replace the sputtering abominations that we call autorickshaws.

[2468]

That abomination is irreversible due to structural stupidity ^

[adl01]

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[UsmanAnsari]

instead of making another thread its better to carry on with the existing one.. don't call it a dig, the thread is periodically updating..

After years of seemingly running around in the automotive desert making odd car after odd car, Geely got its act together and announced they were buying Volvo, but with great automotive brands comes great pressure, they set up the Emgrand, Geely Global Eagle (Gleagle) and Englon brands within China and slowly but surely pushed the Geely brand aside for its car models. The results being a much more streamlined automotive company that is gaining worldwide respect for its Volvo purchase. Now at the Shanghai Auto Show earlier this year Geely launched its range of concept cars as per usual, if you asked Geely PR where its concept cars were they’d laugh and say, they are all production cars, you would fake a smile and back away slowly. The Geely IG was no exception, gullwing doors haven’t been seen on a mass production car for a few decades at least (unless you count super cars), the below pictures from China’s ever leaky patent office show that the IG is heading for the production lines in the future, albeit lacking the hood and roof mounted solar panels.

So how does the IG work? According to the concept, the IG was similar in mechanics to the BYD F3DM, a small 1.0L engine mated to a hybrid drive train to propel the miniature IG forwards and backwards on demand and seemingly switching from electric to gasoline power when required or when needed. As the solar panels have been nuked from the IG production model (judging by the images above) it could be that the IG will come as a pure EV, or perhaps it could come as a pure gasoline version with no hybrid system – saving money for the end consumer.

Gull wing doors everyone, I’m going to be top of the waiting list.

Geely Automobile | Geely’s IG concept heading for the production lines, gullwing doors included. | China Car Times - China Auto News

[gonowexport]

Oh, good news from Geely, and hope this model will be good sell, and it will be definitely competitive to nano
Meanwhile, Geely is nearby our company