Has anyone yet received notice from FBR about 177(1) (Notice to call for record / documents / books of account)

[ahxan.raza]

This date is just for the documents you need to provide if you want to get audited by FBR. Last date of paying penalty fee is 31st December, 2018.

[suhail.sadaqat]

I did not have taxable income (foreign remittance only) hence i dont see anything when i click calculate button, does it mean i can just submit it right away without paying anything? any idea?

[binyameen488]

same question, please let me know if you find an answer

[Nabs]

I did not have taxable income (foreign remittance only) hence i dont see anything when i click calculate button, does it mean i can just submit it right away without paying anything? any idea?

Even salaried class have to pay 20,000 Rs. to close audit under this amnesty scheme, their taxes are already deducted from their salary, but they are still considering paying this money because of fear of tax commissioners giving trouble. So I am sure you can't close this audit for free under ongoing amnesty scheme which is designed to gather revenue. System will not accept your declaration as it requires CPR number under payment tab. CPR = Computerized Payment Receipt. Same was the case for last 5% amnesty scheme earlier this year.

[suhail.sadaqat]

I dont have any issue in paying the penalty but the thing is the "Calculate" button shows nothing so how can I even generate Challan form and deposit the payment?

[suhail.sadaqat]

As per "http://help.fbr.gov.pk/?p=4192" we have to deposit the amount that is shown when we use the "calculate" button.....

[Nabs]

I dont have any issue in paying the penalty but the thing is the "Calculate" button shows nothing so how can I even generate Challan form and deposit the payment?

That's the problem. Fixed penalty is only available for salaried class. For self-employed / business persons, penalty is based on percentage of tax. For salaried class, its all automatic. While for self-employed, application will be approved by commissioner, or after 4 days it will be automatically approved if the commissioner doesn't approve/decline it.

From what I see, penalty is only available for salaried class. For self-employed, you take amnesty if you did not pay full tax in first place as it says "revision of return" not penalty. If you paid full tax or you are tax exempt, you have no option but to get audited. That's my understanding.

I think its better to contact FBR. I emailed them in last amnesty and they did reply in 3 days.

[Nabs]

As per "http://help.fbr.gov.pk/?p=4192" we have to deposit the amount that is shown when we use the "calculate" button.....

I am a business person, I used form 182(1) and it shows 20,000 when I hit calculate for both me and my company. But I have another problem, they issued me 2 duplicate notices for 2015 year, so don't know if I have to pay double or not.

[anon35615524]

As per last sentence of this news; Salaried persons can pay penalty of PKR 20,000 / Tax return, and have their Audit Cases closed.

I think, salaried persons will have to pay penalty of PKR 20,000 / Tax return year (by hook or by crook). There is no other option.

If they opt to go for any other method, they may land in more troubles (may be more fines and penalties).

Financial audit is not an easy thing to handle especially for those persons who have no financial, audit or accounting background (even if they have all the proofs).

[Nabs]

Everyone is a non-filer! Out of 200 million population, only 1 million are filers. Even in my circle of family and friends, I know of only one other person who is a filer (who have been audited twice and paid bribes for discounted penalties). I know people who make a lot more than me, but are non-filers. They have never received any kind of notices despite having multiple properties and cars. I have literally had sleepless nights because of these FBR notices as I am self-employed (easy to exploit by tax commissioner). I curse the day I decided to become a filer.

[anon35615524]

And me too!

In my case, I feel that there has been "Naiki Barbaad, Gunah Lazim"!

In my friends and family circle too, it is the same case.

[suhail.sadaqat]

Right, they should encourage people to become filer and stop doing actions which discourage. They are just trying to get money out of people who are already good enough to get themselves registered at least.....

I'm also kind of self-employed and all income is via foreign remittance, I'm in contact with a lawyer also and will update here as soon as i get something conclusive from him. Just to mention again, in my particular case the IRIS website shows nothing when pressing "calculate" button.

[suhail.sadaqat]

I personally think that we should use all means to protest this, for example a twitter hashtag may be addressing some gov official etc...they may notice and give response....although the hope is almost none....

[ahxan.raza]

Totally standing with you man. We should device a plan to handle this dirty business of nab.

[HellsGuardian]

They should open audit for anybody who has a 50lac+ (arbitrary figure) car. Its extremely sad to see that they are trying to milk more money from working class

[jved]

Calculate button doesn't show in my case. Any idea why ?

[jved]

Did you figure it out ? i have a same issue.

[jved]

What if your income is exempt ?

[suhail.sadaqat]

Not figured out yet, will post here when its done....

[akbarvatao]

Yes i have got one too for 2014-15 late filing was done in 2016 .