Haval " H6 " Dedicated Discussion, Owner/ Fan Club Thread

[pwuser164163568474]

Okay so as per my documentation (sales tax invoice & sales certificate), it also was written as a 2024 model. I was always under the impression that when dealing with a showroom about their invoices these things (year of manufacture etc) would be updated as well

[pwuser163725664639]

There have been cases where people got cars in December after pressure tactics from dealerships with promise of January invoices but model/year of manufacturing mentioned on invoice was still previous year and invoice date was of January. and excise deems those cars as previous year December cars

At the end of the day its still a manual procedure if the excise agent who checks the file and fills in the data puts it as 2024 or 2025 its all in his hands so human mistakes and or corruption is possible, they might put model 2024 car with January invoice date ,as year of manufacture 2025 by just checking the invoice date and not looking at the modle part on next page

[khushik123tahir]

So plz guide o have told them i will at the earliest make blance payment after December 10th so till i make that they dont produce the car

[khushik123tahir]

When did u receive it in 2023

[zee5han]

Get it in writing that the Model: will be written as 2025 on invoice , i'll attach my invoice page 2 so you know what it looks like for HAVAL

[zee5han]

This is 2nd page of my invoice for h6 HEV.
On 2 places its written Model :2024 and one place its written "The Vehicle has been manufactured /assembled in 2024"
All of these should be 2025 in your case

[khushik123tahir]

Thank you so much i have texted them and asked to be derffed in jan allocation so i get invoice of late jan or feb i contacted am other haval dealership they guided that this is ur 1st payment call u can deffer it to next which i did so will be paying blance in 20th dec and recive in mid or late jan

[pwuser164163568474]

around the 26th Dec

[jklodhi]

Date of manufacturing isnimportant and if it is manufactured in 2024, it will always be 2024 model.

Rest all are stories by dealership.

Make some excuse and pay in January, even if you pay in last week they will deliver you 2024 model.

[pwuser167550015690]

I've heard from a couple of people that swapping out the stock 225/55 R19 tires with 235/55 R19 have a higher than typical improvement in the H6's ride comfort and handling. Anyone here had a similar experience?

I don't think a few millimeter increase in the car's height would have a dramatic difference.

[darthvader]

People spend ungodly sums of money on tyres and then let placebo get the better of them.

[zee5han]

Actually its not even the height its the width that was increased in your example 10 millimeters from 225 to 235 , if anything This would make car's fuel consumption worse

[pwuser167550015690]

Yes, the width would obviously change by 10mm but the tire's sidewall height also changes because the aspect ratio remains at 55 and diameter at 19. So it would slightly increase the car's clearance.

I just found a calculator as well and according to it, the overall diameter would increase by 11mm, and road clearance would increase by 6mm. To me it already looks like the H6 is about 25-30 mm too high so a 6mm increase would just add more body roll IMO.

Also yes, fuel consumption would go down but would also increase the the road grip and traction, so maybe that 530 Nm of torque would be slightly more useful.

[missiledefence]

good work!!

[tech_wiz]

Getting a more "grippy" tyre of same width is 10x better than putting in just a wider tyre. However, any tyre of 225 width would still struggle with 530Nm (assuming it is 530Nm).

Car journalists from other asian countries still do question Haval's tall claims of 530Nm torque itself citing examples of other cars with 500Nm torque with similar body weights, and how much better other cars perform and accelerate especially for overtaking traffic compared to HEV.

In my opinion, 100-180 acceleration of HEV does seem quite subpar for claimed torque figure of 530Nm.

[pwuser167550015690]

That 530 Nm of torque isn't really realized most of the time. It won't be of much help at the higher end because the bulk of that (around 300 Nm or so) comes from the electric motor, which isn't doing much at higher speeds. That's the catch with with almost all Power-Split Hybrids, where bulk of the torque is towards the lower range.

And FWD setup doesn't help during launches either because of the significantly lower traction. That's why the 2.0T AWD model actually beats it in 0-100 tests.

There is an AWD PHEV variant in South American markets with similar power, but because of being AWD, it's 0-100 figures are significantly faster than 2.0 and the HEV.

[darthvader]

Someone just needs to put it on a dyno.

[tech_wiz]

Dyno test of H6 HEV. I could only find one video on Youtube from another country.

[darthvader]

That's around 306nm. There's always some loss from the engine to the axle, but 530 to 306 is a bit much.

[tech_wiz]

Or 530 Nm itself is an inflated number on spec sheet. I have seen at least two established car reviews (Malaysian and Philippines) citing the same thing, i.e., the car doesn't perform like it has 500+ Nm.