Haval " H6 " Dedicated Discussion, Owner/ Fan Club Thread

[darthvader]

Here's what their brochure says. They're just adding the power figures of the battery and the engine. That's not how Toyota or any other manufacturer does it.

[pwuser167550015690]

530 Nm is really just a marketing figure. It's what you'd get if both the motor and the engine (at it's optimal RPM range) was driving the wheels.

Realistically, that never happens due to how parallel hybrids work, specially when they're driving the same axle. On the H6 HEV specifically, that's more so a figure you get momentarily during launch control, which you need to activate by turning off VSC.

Power Split systems are usually designed to distribute power as equally as possible throughout the engine's RPM range. You can see from the dyno chart above that the motor + turbo keep nearly consistently high torque up until the 5000 RPM range, when the raw power output of the engine takes over.

We would've likely seen a larger output on the chart if the rear wheels were also getting power, but that's generally been a criticism of the H6 HEV's FWD DHT transmission.

[tech_wiz]

For me, the bottomline is that this engine is not producing 530Nm while on the road. Yes it is more powerful than 2.0T AWD but only just slightly. Being FWD brings it lower than AWD in acceleration.

[pwuser167550015690]

Yes, the slight power advantage it has also isn't as meaningful because of lower traction. However, better power distribution does result in significant gains in terms of efficiency.

To get close to that full power and sub 5.0 sec 0-100 acceleration, you need the AWD hybrid variants. But they are only available in PHEV model sold specifically in South America, and is seemingly going to be launched in Australia next year as well. The PHEV model sold in the rest of the world is still FWD.

[zee5han]

Did you book H6 or HS or still waiting

[pwuser167550015690]

I had booked the H6 last month. Dealership was asking me to pay the balance and take delivery early January but I told them to put me in the next allocation.

[Abd008]

General inquiry, which model of H6 is selling most?

1. H6 Petrol Engine turbo 1.5
2. H6 Petrol Engine turbo 2
3. H6 HEV

[pwuser167550015690]

H6 HEV is the top selling followed by H6 1.5T. The 2.0T AWD variant sells the least since people either go with the cheapest option or the top of the line variant.

[pwuser163725664639]

H6 HEV is the most selling by a MILE
If we serach HAVAL h6 for sale in whole of pakistan on pakwheels this is the result

[tech_wiz]

1st HEV
2nd almost equal split between 1.5 and 2.0

[darthvader]

From this I can deduce the H6 HEV owners are the least satisfied with their cars

[antinomyflux]

AoA,

I am considering buy Haval H6 1.5T. Although, I prefer 2.0 but there is budget constraint. Wanted some opinions on the car if 1.5T is a good buy? Also, if it has automatic parking system (Iam bad at parking so this one has value for me)? & more importantly, is it a good idea to buy a new car in December or should I wait till mid-Jan 2025?

[pwuser167550015690]

1.5T has basic parking assist but not fully Autonomous parking. You'd still have to park manually. Note that fully autonomous parking systems require clearly defined lines and markings on the road / parking spot, and other people to respect the parking markers, both of which are rare in Pakistan. 1.5T also doesn't have side radars so any features dependent on that (like Blind Spot Monitoring, Door Open Warning or Rear Cross Traffic Alert or Collision Warning etc.)

Generally, you should be fine with 1.5T as well, but there are rare instances where the lower spec might be an issue. Like the recently launched Voice Commands feature is available for all 2.0 AWD and HEV models sold but only recently manufactured 1.5T are compatible with it. Not sure if this really was a hardware limitation or just product segmentation based on marketing.

As for booking, you can book now and you'll get delivery in March most likely so it would be the 2025 model.

[antinomyflux]

So, 2025 built 1.5T would have voice command enabled/properly integrated?

3 months booking time is quite long for my situation. Besides, people around me have had a bad luck with booking with cars arriving much later than 3 months period, although these cars were not Haval. Perhaps, 2025 built would be available in mid-Jan? I can buy it from the showroom then. No issues if they are asking for a bit of extra amount ... but only a bit.

[mgalaxy3]

Does the 2.0 have autonomous parking and blind spot monitor?

[pwuser167550015690]

Not sure what the going rate for the 1.5T is but for the HEV, it's around PKR 500-600k and then almost double the cost of registration (initial registration + transfer to your name) so it can be quite expensive.

[pwuser167550015690]

Yes, 2.0T has almost exactly the same features as the HEV apart from the minor differences because of the drive train.

2.0T is AWD and has paddle shifters, while the HEV is FWD with no manual shifting. 2.0T has slightly faster acceleration as well while the HEV has a dedicated launch control. 2.0T has a slightly larger trunk space while the HEV has kick sensor trunk release. 2.0T has 4 parking sensors in the front, HEV has 6.

[antinomyflux]

Haval flagship stated aditional 100k-150k on 'own' for 1.5T. I'll check back with them.

[antinomyflux]

To add to my previous comment. They seem to have increased the cost by 200K-250K in just to two weeks. However, they say they say they would provide vehicle with 2025 build and purchase invoices. Does it sound suspicious?

[pwuser167550015690]

Do ask them if this includes the cost of registration and transfer as well. Usually when buying on own, you first need to register the vehicle on the name of the original owner and then do a transfer which costs extra because of added taxes.

As for model year, you can very easily check that based on the VIN number. If it has an S in the 10th place then it is 2025 manufactured. If it's an R then it's 2024.