Honda City 2006 L13a IDSI URGENT Help Needed

[dani_kk]

Yes exactly brother. If the engine was worn out, i should have told you to, do the complete maker over but it's not really recommended.

We recently did a QG18de. The car came all the way from dadu to us. Rings were good, engine was new from inside, gasket was blown so they replaced it with graphite one aka gatta and still it was heating up... We faced both block and head, did valve seats cleaning and, stem seals and all other seals were replaced... New mls gasket was installed and we torqued the head to factory specs. Due to heat up crank bearings were also bad, we replaced them too and new thrust. Now alhamdulilah car is turning the auto fans off on time and tstat is installed... Everything is perfect, compression is good. Engine replacement cost was nearly 100+ and full overhaul is very expensive..

[dani_kk]

[dani_kk]

[omersiddiqui5482]

Means ke mechanic ne bilwajha dara diya ke bhai engtine ka kam tamam hogaya hai and i need to swap it with a new one. i personally never experienced any smoke, loss of oil, any leaks, loss of power or any sort of error code from the car. the engine was good enough.

[capsat]

swap is a word easily said & can be done at road side mechanics. with a life of 2 ~ 7000 kms tops.

a pro-class swap require sourcing of RELIABLE engine from yard., and the most important thing is how much time an owner can spare to be part of the task.

@babarhyd it can be rebuilt, of course it require ease of mind and reliable parts source.

[dayrider]

First of all clean it, to see how much rust is actually there. If I am not wrong, didn't the city come with an aluminum block, that shouldn't rust..

[omersiddiqui5482]

it is an aluminum block, in the mechanic slang silver ka block hai! khair.

@capsat sir, the engine was okh and working fine except this heat up. do you suggest changing the piston rings too. i am although changing all the belts and the water pump. Parts are also available easily. should i change the head or will this work.

[Rahat083144]

Woh corroded he na ho ab to lazmi change karna he hai.

As I understand, the main problem to begin with was heating up. With this much corrosion in the coolant passages, it is imperative to check the water pump - could well be that its fins are highly corroded, hindering its ability to drive the coolant.

The other thing is - why does everything look so wet, did he drain the coolant and oil before pulling the head?

It also seems that one of the exhaust ports is much darker than the other three and it seems that the plugs on that cylinder have much darker deposits on them compared to the orangish MMT type deposits on the other three cylinders' plugs. In my K24 one of the exhaust ports was much darker than all the others and it turned out to be a bad valve stem seal, causing oil loss.

[omersiddiqui5482]

there is no loss of oil uptill now. and the images are just after the head was taken apart and nothing was cleaned.

[capsat]

you mentioned above that the vehicle was running on plain water and then coolant was used and it happened. Did you performed citric flush before filling the coolant,?

check the engine block & head both for any physical damages or warping. before replacing anything. check you tube for wrap diagnosis of head & block.

[omersiddiqui5482]

Yes it was flushed first and then coolant was poured in. I will check this warpping personally.

[capsat]

take down the engine from vehicle, check the welch plugs snap & share clear pictures of engine block,

by chance do you feel responsible for its failure because its your friends car and your experiment of citric flush has caused that ? just a question i mean no embarrassment or an insult throwing at you.

[abid110]

engine assemblies of this car are available in abundance here in Karachi. if you can visit Shafiq mor market, you can get good idea of prices and i can share exact contact to meet there. i had overheating issues in my liana - no mechanic asked me to overhaul the engine and just change it - my life is in total peace after assembly change.

[omersiddiqui5482]

To be honest i do feel responsible to the extent that i advised him to flush the cooling system and i brought him the Toyota concentrate to mix it with distilled water and pour it in.

but the car was overheating on a constant basis with or with out AC, sometimes it kept the light blinking, sometime the light stayed on, and very rarely the car stalled. it even burnt my hand on one occasion. i really want to help the guy cause he is a really nice human being.

i have a 31 one year OLD car @capsat sir, and she never heats up and this 12 year old City was becoming a constant annoyance, it literally drove like a gem after the coolant was poured in at least for a week. with or without AC.

[omersiddiqui5482]

@abid110 by assembly you mean the cylinder head and and the block. can you please share the contact sir, i am willing to check those assemblies.

[abid110]

by assembly i mean engine block+head only. all other pulleys/alternator/belts/wiring etc are of old engine. go to Shafiq mor, masjid wali galli, there is Saleem autos. meet Zubair there and tell him Abid sent you (his neighbour). he will take you to relevant persons directly. take a tour

[babaralinawab]

replaces mine head assembly with l15a idsi gives exact economy of 14 un city and 17 on long
and you get immersive power compared to l13
swap with l15a source a good engine from scraps they have gems lying there pay a lil more if you have too
mine is still running on 5w30 oil with solid compression after putting on 70k km after the swap
best to replace with l15a assembly as it is available more than l13
P.S
mine is auto variant manual will give more

[babaralinawab]

paid 35k for the engine, oils , filters and antifreeze and labours 3 years back from rwp

[abid110]

also, i have seen engines of Honda Airwave which comes with 4-plug setup and not the idsi's 8 plug setup. they are same engines as the one here in idsi (as i talked to a person selling them).

[hasankhurshid29]

by chance do you feel responsible for its failure because its your friends car and your experiment of citric flush has caused that ?

Can citric flush causes damage to engine? Secondly then what is the proper way to flush without damaging a engine running on water for 3 years?