Honda City 2010 onwards Automatic Transmission - Your views

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raza1 (Raza1) 2013-03-02 07:41:18 +0500 #1

Dear all,

I am planning to have Honda City 2010 onwards (Automatic), as I hate manual cars. One of my friend has suggested that not to buy City AT as its acceleration is dead like you are driving it on CNG. Presently I have 1.6 GLi AT, whose acceleration is good (not excellent).

If that is the case with City, I may not go for it.

Has anybody noticed such thing in city. or any City AT satisfied users?

tausifs (Tausif A. Rajput) 2013-03-02 12:24:01 +0500 #2

Ab aise bhi bat nahi hai. I have a city aspire prosmatic 2013. I put regular fuel in it. No knocking or pick problem. You might feel a difference in pick due to shifting down from 1.6 to 1.3......otherwise not a big issue. One more thing........please check if there is a difference in the transmission of city AT which is now replaced by city prosmatic. There might be a pick issue with AT but since I have not driven AT........... So can't comment. No problems with prosmatic though.

KamranAslam (KamranAslam) 2013-03-02 12:36:25 +0500 #3

City AT is a problem if CNGed. else on petrol above 2008 all are good with good fuel ave.

Ravager (Ravager) 2013-03-02 12:37:32 +0500 #4

hmm ask your friend to get his city checked out.. because no way auto city can be driving like a cng car.. unless you compare it to cng on reborn

raza1 (Raza1) 2013-03-02 14:14:17 +0500 #5

I am not talking about prosmatec. As it has a good report. But AT gets dead while AC on and 4 to 5 people loaded. Seems underpowered. Thats the reason Honda changed it to prosmatec in aspire.

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raza1 (Raza1) 2013-03-02 14:16:21 +0500 #6

The acceleration problem can be observed while loaded with 4 to 5 people and AC is on.

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tausifs (Tausif A. Rajput) 2013-03-02 14:20:17 +0500 #7

You said city 2010 and onwards that's why I mentioned. Secondly, I requested you to check if they have really changed it or just changed the name from AT to prosmatic.
With 5 persons loaded and AC on, even manual can give you a sluggish behaviour.

raza1 (Raza1) 2013-03-02 14:31:55 +0500 #8

Oh yes, my bad sorry. I meant AT not prosmatec, that i was supposed to mention, anyways.

Yeah you are right, we can face such behaviour in even manual car.

Well, i am not interested in prosmatec. As it is out of my range. I may go for AT, provided some AT owner confirms about its performance.

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civic7 (civic7) 2013-03-02 15:30:12 +0500 #9

FYI
Atlas just changed the sticker from AT to PROSMATIC. No change in engine technology.

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raza1 (Raza1) 2013-03-02 15:40:23 +0500 #10

Really?

Btw AT and prosmatec has nothing to do with engine technology. The change was from normal AT to progressive shift management technlogy (prosmatec), but you are saying there is no such change?

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alee1 (alee1) 2013-03-02 15:42:14 +0500 #11

i had city at...acceleration was pretty good...managed to push it to 170kms/hr
on gas it was good, except it hunted for gears.apart from that i got 175kms on routine with 55 cylinder.petrol average was about 15-16 earlier when gas wasnt installed. max milage was 187 on gas...more or less i fetched these figures.drove city almost 135000kms before shifting to 8th gen civic.

raza1 (Raza1) 2013-03-02 15:43:48 +0500 #12

^^ which model?

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Saad51 (Saad51) 2013-03-02 15:48:28 +0500 #13

Hi Salam to all of you i want to ask a question that I have Honda City of model 2005 on petrol !!!!!!!!!!! My car is jerk when i on the low Rpm in the first gear What should i do Is that a power plugs!!!!! or another problem!!!!!!!!

civic7 (civic7) 2013-03-03 04:51:03 +0500 #14

@raza1

You can say that Prosmatic, progressive shift management technology, is actually trade mark of Honda for Auto teny:p
And yes it's a little better than other Japanese car manufacturers.

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rustam54 (rustam) 2013-03-03 05:39:22 +0500 #15

^^Yes....Exactly.

There's no difference between the early AT versions (starting from 2009) and the new prosmatic. It was as it is since day 1 of launch in PK. Honda just figure a new marketing gimmick to sell it under the badge ASPIRE.

I would like to point out that when honda first launched the prosmatic in civic, it was in the era of planetary gears with other manufacturers. The prosmatic is just like a manual tranny with only difference that the synchros are now multiplate clutches and that too are engaged in 02 steps.

This smooths out the transmission jerk. Honda further took the jerk reduction with DBW system. Now the throttle actually closes and opens back up during shift. I actually have an OBD-2 log graph of my vehicle for reference.

Coming to actual question, YES the city AT is at times sluggish (almost like a CNGed vehicle). This always happens if you happen to pour bad fuel or you load it up with 4-5 people with AC on and try to cross a trailer on GT road. But that lag is only upto 2500 rpm. Once all 16 valves open, the car becomes normal again. All this to improve economy.

I would suggest you to drive a City AT first and then make the switch.

huzaifaa (huzaifaa) 2013-03-03 05:44:16 +0500 #16

bro honestly i dont like the city AT drive its sluggish there is no charm like i vtec manual city although mine was 100% petrol driven no cng ever else choice is urs

raza1 (Raza1) 2013-03-03 08:31:47 +0500 #17

Smart people, i must say. Lolz.

Though the pmatec was out of my budget, but even if i ll have money, i ll not pay for the difference of normal AT and PMatec.

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raza1 (Raza1) 2013-03-03 08:33:08 +0500 #18

rustam54;3772974:

^^Yes....Exactly.

There's no difference between the early AT versions (starting from 2009) and the new prosmatic. It was as it is since day 1 of launch in PK. Honda just figure a new marketing gimmick to sell it under the badge ASPIRE.

I would like to point out that when honda first launched the prosmatic in civic, it was in the era of planetary gears with other manufacturers. The prosmatic is just like a manual tranny with only difference that the synchros are now multiplate clutches and that too are engaged in 02 steps.

This smooths out the transmission jerk. Honda further took the jerk reduction with DBW system. Now the throttle actually closes and opens back up during shift. I actually have an OBD-2 log graph of my vehicle for reference.

Coming to actual question, YES the city AT is at times sluggish (almost like a CNGed vehicle). This always happens if you happen to pour bad fuel or you load it up with 4-5 people with AC on and try to cross a trailer on GT road. But that lag is only upto 2500 rpm. Once all 16 valves open, the car becomes normal again. All this to improve economy.

I would suggest you to drive a City AT first and then make the switch.

Thanks for the help. Yes i am waiting for a friend who has 2010 AT city. I may exchange my car for few days with him.

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raza1 (Raza1) 2013-03-03 08:35:04 +0500 #19

Well, the manual lovers will never like AT. And it is a fact, however AT is slow poison, but when a person gets addicted, hardly opts back for manual.

My question was mainly for the people who are already using AT cars.

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inzi (inzi) 2013-03-03 09:01:11 +0500 #20

Why do you want to switch in the first place to a lower size engine. No matter good or not good, you will feel the pain of "sluggish response". Moving from 1.6 to 1.3 on the same brand frustrates you. Now you want to add another factor of Honda City in there. You will feel the "sluggish response" for first couple of months regardless of AT/Pros/Manual tranny till you get used to it. If you can control yourself for that long, then think about switching..!!! Tranny will play its role later...

Good Luck!