Honda City Fan Club

[qwertypoiu]

Btw about ac being not good of corolla or city. Well even if there is a difference its 9/10 not too much. Hardly any one will notice.

The problem i feel is that on the front ac will freez you and rear passengers will be just okay.

[waleed80]

Well if you dont drive fast i would suggest you corolla gli its best. I would all it an all rounder.
Best on motorway and on broken dirty roads. I have driven new city and gli both.

Pro's of city its epic fast comparing to gli
Drove auto city took it till 170 in dha phase 8 hard braking etc superb ride on the other hand at the same place i could only manage 150 no corolla.

Cons only one is if the road is bumpy bad etc city sucks big time.

Corolla. If you drive normally its all rounder. If you drive fast it avg.

Well if i have choice i would buy corolla over city because i have to go to village and corolla win's there. If there is no village and out of city driving then honda city win's.

But then if i am talking about city i will buy some corolla axio because jdm buit ride is something else cant be compared with local rides.

well u know me that i m in army and i have no roots back in village anymore...so all the times i have to be traveling on main roads..say from pindi to lahore, peshawar and murree etc...BOHOT bhee hua tau i wud be travelling to karachi on main roads..off the road there is no trip planned...and even if there is, dad has a 07 gli which i can always take for that tractor ride lolz....so for me, city is the best option and thats the only reason i booked it...plus...to pay abt 2 lacs extra for gli with no additional facility at all is a total craziness

[fawadakbarkhan]

how is the AC of new city ? how wud u guys rate it in comparison to that of idsi...secondly, i test drove one of the new cities a week ago and i experienced a sudden lack of power when the gear is changed at high rev near red line. wat can be the reason ? i mean, keh car achanak beth jaatee hey for a second or so and then accelerates if the gear is changed at high rpm in the previous gear.

Waleed bro, Regarding the AC of both models. I have both of them with me. There is not much of a difference between ACs of both cars if maintained properly. Idsi has a bit bigger cabin than the new ivtec but still, It cools same like a new city.

And bro, ur test drive depends how much the car was driven and how WAS it driven. For me, my city never put me behind ANY of the cars I ever pushed it with.

It even gives a hard time to a civic oriel prosmatec 2010 to catch it above 140kph. So, the acceleration is way above satisfactory for a 1.3L compact sedan class.

If there is a good shifter behind the wheel, the new city can give off a kick a$$ run to the 1.5L steermatic Exi or 1.6L vti.

I have touched 200kph on it and after that engine cuts off due to speed limiter.

As my bro ahmad said, it could be a faulty sensor as engine behaves the same way the sensor tells it to.

I hate all these sensor thingys as every mechanic has a "tukka" solution for their problems k "bhai petrol se saaf kar ke dekhta hoon"... :S

It will require a thorough honda maintenance for good performance all the way.

[huzaifaa]

Waleed bro, Regarding the AC of both models. I have both of them with me. There is not much of a difference between ACs of both cars if maintained properly. Idsi has a bit bigger cabin than the new ivtec but still, It cools same like a new city.

And bro, ur test drive depends how much the car was driven and how WAS it driven. For me, my city never put me behind ANY of the cars I ever pushed it with.

It even gives a hard time to a civic oriel prosmatec 2010 to catch it above 140kph. So, the acceleration is way above satisfactory for a 1.3L compact sedan class.

If there is a good shifter behind the wheel, the new city can give off a kick a$$ run to the 1.5L steermatic Exi or 1.6L vti.

I have touched 200kph on it and after that engine cuts off due to speed limiter.

As my bro ahmad said, it could be a faulty sensor as engine behaves the same way the sensor tells it to.

I hate all these sensor thingys as every mechanic has a "tukka" solution for their problems k "bhai petrol se saaf kar ke dekhta hoon"... :S

It will require a thorough honda maintenance for good performance all the way.

agree
i.vtec city is much more responsive compared to all other 1.3 in its class

[3170]

Waleed bro, Regarding the AC of both models. I have both of them with me. There is not much of a difference between ACs of both cars if maintained properly. Idsi has a bit bigger cabin than the new ivtec but still, It cools same like a new city.

And bro, ur test drive depends how much the car was driven and how WAS it driven. For me, my city never put me behind ANY of the cars I ever pushed it with.

It even gives a hard time to a civic oriel prosmatec 2010 to catch it above 140kph. So, the acceleration is way above satisfactory for a 1.3L compact sedan class.

If there is a good shifter behind the wheel, the new city can give off a kick a$$ run to the 1.5L steermatic Exi or 1.6L vti.
have touched 200kph on it and after that engine cuts off due to speed limiter.

As my bro ahmad said, it could be a faulty sensor as engine behaves the same way the sensor tells it to.

I hate all these sensor thingys as every mechanic has a "tukka" solution for their problems k "bhai petrol se saaf kar ke dekhta hoon"... :S

It will require a thorough honda maintenance for good performance all the way.

.

Pls share the difference you felt in the brakes of both the models.

[fawadakbarkhan]

.

Pls share the difference you felt in the brakes of both the models.

dude, the new city has abs and electric brake force distribution. This thing brakes like better than anything. Idsi brakes are much weaker.

also one thing that I felt on the new ivtec is that abs doesnot engage too often. I had to brake very hard once as I was at around 140kph on a two way road when a motorcycle wala came right in front of me and I just slammed at the brake pedal. I was surprised that even then the abs did not engage.

I guess that is a very +ve factor regarding the fact that abs actually increases the braking distance.

Far ahead of the new corolla with every hard brake going "GRRR GRRR GRRR" abs. :S

[3170]

dude, the new city has abs and electric brake force distribution. This thing brakes like better than anything. Idsi brakes are much weaker.

also one thing that I felt on the new ivtec is that abs doesnot engage too often. I had to brake very hard once as I was at around 140kph on a two way road when a motorcycle wala came right in front of me and I just slammed at the brake pedal. I was surprised that even then the abs did not engage.

I guess that is a very +ve factor regarding the fact that abs actually increases the braking distance.

Far ahead of the new corolla with every hard brake going "GRRR GRRR GRRR" abs. :S

Thanks

[sheikh_wah]

Whats the standard Tyre size for City i-DSI on stock 13" rims? currently its having 185/70/13, which I think is little bit over-size for it.

[waleed80]

Whats the standard Tyre size for City i-DSI on stock 13" rims? currently its having 185/70/13, which I think is little bit over-size for it.

stock size for idsi is 175 13...and no urs is absolutely ok....no worries

[fawadakbarkhan]

Whats the standard Tyre size for City i-DSI on stock 13" rims? currently its having 185/70/13, which I think is little bit over-size for it.

Its Ok bro. absolutely fine. Don't consider it over sized in any way. I have 195/60/R15 on my idsi i.e steermatic sized tyres.

they allow much more road grip and driving pleasure.

[accord7362]

Waleed bro, Regarding the AC of both models. I have both of them with me. There is not much of a difference between ACs of both cars if maintained properly. Idsi has a bit bigger cabin than the new ivtec but still, It cools same like a new city.

And bro, ur test drive depends how much the car was driven and how WAS it driven. For me, my city never put me behind ANY of the cars I ever pushed it with.

It even gives a hard time to a civic oriel prosmatec 2010 to catch it above 140kph. So, the acceleration is way above satisfactory for a 1.3L compact sedan class.

If there is a good shifter behind the wheel, the new city can give off a kick a$$ run to the 1.5L steermatic Exi or 1.6L vti.

I have touched 200kph on it and after that engine cuts off due to speed limiter.

As my bro ahmad said, it could be a faulty sensor as engine behaves the same way the sensor tells it to.

I hate all these sensor thingys as every mechanic has a "tukka" solution for their problems k "bhai petrol se saaf kar ke dekhta hoon"... :S

It will require a thorough honda maintenance for good performance all the way.

very good analysis of new city , in fact EXi manual/pros & 1.6Vti(pros) has no chance against new city :o & yes good shifter will roll her neck to neck with steermatic

Its Ok bro. absolutely fine. Don't consider it over sized in any way. I have 195/60/R15 on my idsi i.e steermatic sized tyres.

they allow much more road grip and driving pleasure.

the stock size of steermatic is 185/55/15

[3170]

Its Ok bro. absolutely fine. Don't consider it over sized in any way. I have 195/60/R15 on my idsi i.e steermatic sized tyres.

they allow much more road grip and driving pleasure.

Is there any harm to suspension by 195/60/R15 or any other disadvantage.

[waleed80]

Is there any harm to suspension by 195/60/R15 or any other disadvantage.

bro its a very simple thing...if the new tyre is more than 3% the size of stoc tyre, u r in trouble, in more than one ways. more fuel consumption, more pressure on steering column, stiffer ride and the list goes on....here is the URL for the comparison of stock and new tyres...do the maths

Tire size calculator

regards

[ahmadbila]

Whats the standard Tyre size for City i-DSI on stock 13" rims? currently its having 185/70/13, which I think is little bit over-size for it.

stock size of city idsi is 165/80/13... 185/70/13 is the perfect upgrade... i used this exact same size for 55000kms before swapping in 14 inch rims in my car... the max i ve had was 195/60/r14... i just loved the grip that i used to get from it.. though on the sacrifice of some performance...

[huzaifaa]

@ahmad what about the result bro

[fawadakbarkhan]

Is there any harm to suspension by 195/60/R15 or any other disadvantage.

As far as I've seen, NO. Steerrmatic city and idsi use the exactly same suspension system and yet Steermatic was delivered with 55 Low profile tyres.

I used 60 profile for a bit softness. And The "grease on the road" feeling that usually is a part of the idsi drive vanishes after 15" tyres. I have done maximum 195kmh on these wheels and trust me the drive is a total pleasure.

Braking becomes awesome and so does cornering and road grip.

Drawbacks include a bit stiffness in the steering but again, that helps overcome the greasy road feel. I take it as more control over my car. One more thing there will be a bit drop in fuel economy but the extra road grip compensates for it.

[fawadakbarkhan]

very good analysis of new city , in fact EXi manual/pros & 1.6Vti(pros) has no chance against new city :o & yes good shifter will roll her neck to neck with steermatic

the stock size of steermatic is 185/55/15

Thank you aamir bhai. And yeah my bad. Didn't mention the stock size. I believe u are using 195/55/15 on red lady.

I just went for 60 profile for a bit less stiff steering coloumn.

And The new city is a true beast if thoroughly maintained.

P.S Red lady is not ANY steermatic. I don't think it will let city Roll neck to neck very far.

Yeah other steers, surely, in a 40kmh roll on, they may have a chance but from zero, .

[accord7362]

Thank you aamir bhai. And yeah my bad. Didn't mention the stock size. I believe u are using 195/55/15 on red lady.

I just went for 60 profile for a bit less stiff steering coloumn.

And The new city is a true beast if thoroughly maintained.

P.S Red lady is not ANY steermatic. I don't think it will let city Roll neck to neck very far.

Yeah other steers, surely, in a 40kmh roll on, they may have a chance but from zero, .

Ha Ha JAZAKALLAHA , thanks a lot for the words regarding Red Lady , we both horned

I have full respect for new city & in fact for all brands

Yes I am using 195/55/15 , but you did a great decision of 195/60/15 I will also go for little extra meat next time I still fell caz of stiff suspension bit more rubber is good.

[ahmadbila]

@ahmad what about the result bro

Sir koe or bat karain
i attempted 3, passed just 1

[fawadakbarkhan]

Ha Ha JAZAKALLAHA , thanks a lot for the words regarding Red Lady , we both horned

I have full respect for new city & in fact for all brands

Yes I am using 195/55/15 , but you did a great decision of 195/60/15 I will also go for little extra meat next time I still fell caz of stiff suspension bit more rubber is good.

NP sir G.

And, disregard for any brands is NEVER meant in any of our conversations. Just friendly chit chats on the facts.

and the facts I know about the new city vs. steermatic are:

I had a comparison with a very very good friend of mine who had a white steermatic only 27k something driven in Islamabad.

Even that I drove steermatic and my friend was in my red city.

In a run from a complete stop, even an XLi (crap) takes a good initial lead vs. the steermatic just due to its manual tranny. But steer takes over less than a mere 4 seconds to catch and speed past it in a "vroom"

In the case of city, Steer covers the intial lead in almost everytime.

If steer is just floored a second before city's clutch is released, then good luck city in catching steermatic.

In a 40kmh roll on with steermatic, both go neck to neck.

I think its pretty easy to roll a steermatic vs any manual car as a steermatic driver has just to keep the pedal pushed to the medal and it goes VROOOOOOMMMMMMM...... so on.

But in case of a manual tranny, one has to go

Vrooooommmmmmmm....
vrrooooooooooomm...
vrooooooooo... vroooooooo... :D:D:D

Based on my knowledge from u people and my little experience with steermatic. I hope u agree.

and yes, a little more rubber helps in every jump and thud on the road. 55 profile seemed a bit hard in the first experience so went for 60. For checking, I had my tyres swapped with the white steer I am talking about.

The dude had Yokohama S drive in 205/55/R15. (H)

Edit: Welcome back to Pakistan, I hope yer landing on 15th inshAllah. have a safe journey sir G.

And I have a little personal request, will PM yu fr that once yu reach PK.

Warm regards.